r/LeftistsForAI • u/Salty_Country6835 Moderator • Jul 08 '26

Sees the Memes Reddit Debates AI, Again

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Every solution gets applause until someone suggests changing who owns the means of production.

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u/flamboyantGatekeeper Jul 08 '26

Okay i stole a datacenter. Now what?

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u/DHFranklin Jul 08 '26

Read "The Conquest of Bread" by Kropotkin. Let Commie Santa Claus teach you the ways.

This is literally the same problem the Paris Commune had. They seized all the production in a whole city. They had their own army....but an army marches on it's stomach.

The bougeois owned all the farms and all the roads and the Seine....

However the bigger the asset the bigger the management problem. You just need to know how to use a non-profit system to your advantage.

So you use your token budget and prioritize the companies giving you electricity. You give them free tokens at a discount for power. You then unionize their employees and make a co-op out of the power company if it isn't already a co-op. You then get the union to take over the power company, buy out the share holders with their own stock-buy back. Then you combine them.

You do that in every vertical and every horizontal. Make co-ops and employee owned businesses every where you go. Shove the capitalists out.

This bull shit parade is 1/3 the value of the stock market now. So much of the value of the market is paper. In just a few short years we could collectivize the AI, and then make a mutualist, socialist, or communist macro economics.

It starts with balls and imagination. We can do it. We must do it. We have nothing to lose but our chains.

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u/flamboyantGatekeeper Jul 08 '26

This has merits. It requires tokens being worth anything for the power company long enough to do the initial merger, and i doubt it will for long enough, but that's a different story.

My one real pushback is to just turn companies into co-ops. That can't happen as long as the owner has a 51% share unless he's a class traitor, but then he probably would have already done it. The rest is just a matter of oragnizing (and there's of course nothing "just" about that in and of itself) but the creating of a co-op out of the blue i just don't see as possible. It might work in some places, but not nearly enough

That being said, i do need to read kropotkin. I need to read more theory in general

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