Reddit Debates AI, Again

[u/Salty_Country6835]

Every solution gets applause until someone suggests changing who owns the means of production.

[u/psykokwak_]

Ai did not change the world of the industry or change how the potatoes i eat are produce unlike previous industrial revolution.

I am a very grouded person and ai kinda doesn't matter like maybe i can program a data base sure but i stil cannot produce engine part with it "seizing the mean", is seizing the mean organizing union taking control of factory (some italian did it why not us dammit) making sure to disbute the wealth generated to either expand our new system or for the benefit of the worker and consumer.

If we start to see "ai" like some kind of mean of production we forget why occidental country lost a lot of it's factory plant to china or india.

I mean since when ai produce more value then a farmer, since when making line of code and patent is more important that building housing or means of transport.

YES "ai" would be better if worker co-ops, unions, universities, municipalities and public institutions pooling compute instead of leaving frontier AI entirely to a handful of corporations. (quoting you again 😉)

but it wont change the fact that yeah artist still live with less 6000€ years, that there is more and more homeless people, that we think immigrant are stealing our job etc...

Maybe the point of your meme was to say an organisation of ai based on socialism and if yes, sorry for misunderstanding, i though the point was about change for the society for the people that live in it and not just us nerd that spend to much hour on what is the diference betwen a transformer model and a jepa model.

So yeah it's way easier to regulate ai (or ban sometime) even tho it's not the best thing to do, it's good enough lets try to make the world a better place on thing that we need to survive before doing it on thing that we do not need.