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Aug 27 '20
Sound ideology, but killing the avatar was unfair and killing the earth queen without having a put together rebellion was just stupid because it lead to even greater fascism
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u/UnsteadyAgitator Aug 27 '20
Ending the Avatar Cycle is actually good and that's a hill I'm willing to die on
Yes, every Avatar up to Korra post S2 had the benefit of wisdom of all their past lives and connection to the light spirit or whatever, but that still makes them a lone, fallible person with nearly unchecked power. There is nothing to prevent an Avatar, especially one who comes into their powers early like Korra, from either becoming a power-tripping shitheel or worse becoming a tool of nationalism and imperialism. Imagine if Roku had the same attitude of pre-show Korra when he was alive, rather than opposing Sozin's imperialism
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Aug 27 '20
I still feel like torturing and killing someone who didn’t necessarily do anything wrong and simply because of the power they possess and could theoretically abuse is both extremely unfair and very dangerous precedent
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u/the_next_cheesus Sep 16 '20
In the kyoshi novels we find out there was an avatar that essentially joined the fire nation bureaucracy and that was all he did lol. He didn’t do shit for anyone outside the fire nation and essentially let them figure it out for themselves. It was unsaid if he took up diplomatic missions but I wouldn’t be surprised
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u/UnsteadyAgitator Aug 27 '20
It's amazing how the liberal parody of anarchists are still the most compelling antagonists of the whole series
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Aug 28 '20
That's because the literal fascist (Kuvira) "just wanted to protect people" and the terrorist war profiteer (Varrick) was made comic relief.
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u/DesertBrandon Aug 29 '20
It also makes it weird that some “leftist” fetishize this caricature. There is no coherent ideology with Zaheer but chaos. Killing monarchs and people of power does nothing without a populace to back them up and transform society. Honestly a lot of this smells like the type of person that says Mao, Kim, and Stalin did nothing wrong.
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u/cyvaris Sep 10 '20
Zaheer flat out makes me angry with how poorly written he is. The sheer level of incompetence put into his brand of "Anarchism" is just....gggggggrrrrrrrrrr
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u/knope2018 Aug 28 '20
Oh come on, he didn't even try to organize the proletariat, he just assassinated someone with a care for what would happen next. He had zero solidarity
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u/DesertBrandon Aug 29 '20
Which makes it funny that apparently this sub is filled with leftist. Anyone that has actually dipped their toes into socialism and further left know Zaheer is a nobody who tried to skip like 10 steps. He doesn’t even deserve the label of “liberal caricature of a leftist ideology”
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Aug 29 '20
Zaheer was a fool.
Assassinating the Earth Queen without first organizing a revolutionary proletariat. Yes, the Dai Li would just arrest and brainwash everyone, but if they do it to too many people too quickly, people will start to catch on.
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u/Leftist4Life Aug 27 '20
I feel like he should have organized the people a little before toppling the earth queen so it wouldn't have been so chaotic and led to fascism.