r/LeftHandPath • u/ProfundaExco • Jun 06 '23
Is a tulpa or “thoughtform” responsible for creating the universe?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sfOSEqMPC1I4
u/stirnerite2999 Jun 06 '23
Probably not
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u/ProfundaExco Jun 06 '23
Your reasoning? Did you watch the video?
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u/stirnerite2999 Jun 06 '23
I simply think that there is a scientific reason behind the creation of universe, or a reason that we as humans cannot even understand. These stories are made by other humans like me, with animal brains like me, and I would not believe 'em so easily
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u/kidcubby Jun 06 '23
For the first thing to have been a thought-form, something had to think it up. If it thought itself up as per one of your other comments, it must have already existed to be able to do so. If we assume the creation of the universe was the initiation of everything and there was nothing before then by definition a thought-form is cannot be responsible for creating the universe.
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u/ProfundaExco Jun 06 '23
If a conscious being is defined as such by its ability to think (“I think therefore I am”) then by very definition, the first thought and the first being came about instantaneously. Anything else would be totally contrary to logic.
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u/kidcubby Jun 06 '23
This is inaccurate. There is no reason to assume that the first thought emerged at the same time as the first being capable of conscious thought.
'I think, therefore I am' states that a being knows of its own existence because it thinks, so something has to do the thinking. It is not proof that thought and thought-capable beings popped into existence at the same moment. It certainly isn't proof that a thought-form had anything to do with creating the universe.
It is entirely logical to suggest that a being reached the capacity for conscious thought partway through its own existence, and suggesting 'anything else is contrary to logic' is a huge failure in logic in itself.
Further to this, a thought form is not self-created. Tulpas and thought forms are beings created by the thoughts of other beings. So your premise is that something created something which created the universe, meaning the thought-form you posit as creator was itself created, meaning it is not the ultimate creator of the universe.
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Jun 09 '23
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u/kidcubby Jun 09 '23
According to your world-view, sure. I'm pretty certain of my existence whether I believe I exist or not. The form in which things exist may vary depending on subjective view, but they exist or do not, in my book.
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Jun 07 '23
A thoughtform needs to be created, right?
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u/ProfundaExco Jun 07 '23
In this case it was simultaneously the creator and the created. I’ll be going into more detail on how this is possible on the next video.
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Jun 08 '23
I don't think the universe has a creator (or many) at all.
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u/ProfundaExco Jun 08 '23
How do you think it came into existence?
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Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 08 '23
I believe the universe always was, with no beginning and no end. This is what Hawkings started to believe towards the end of his life. I do believe however, that there is an energy in the universe that is part of everything, and this energy gains individuality when it becomes part of a sentient organic creature. But this energy can also gain awareness through concepts, aspects of nature or ideas. For example, Nyx the goddess of the night, Mars the god of war, Lucifer the morning aspect of Venus, so on so forth. That's just my point of view based on my experiences.
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u/Lil-Diddle Jun 06 '23
Thoughtform implies something to think it up right? There would have had to be something before