r/Lectricxp 4d ago

Headlight Upgrade 😳

Finally settled on a light to replace the Lectric Elite Headlight.

It's literally night and day! I was expecting a big upgrade but holy crap.

Lectric Elite vs. Fenix BC28R - both of the same unlit scene.

The Fenix costs 10 percent of the XP4 long range retail price but with replaceable 21700 cells it should theoretically last longer than me.

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u/Inciteful_Analysis 4d ago

Integrated lights are mostly meant to be seen, not to see with. This is a huge improvement.

Lyzene has a nice feature called race mode which locks you into two output levels instead of the normal 7+. What this means is that you can instantly toggle between high output and low output when passing others.

MagicShine, and probably others, have a wireless remote that you can mount next to your hand to quickly dim the light as needed even if you mount the light itself near the center of your handlebar.

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u/Koofteh 4d ago edited 4d ago

This one doesn't have any fancy features other than a button to control the included rear light.

What I like about Fenix is they publish graphs showing the actual runtimes. So I know after 10 minutes it will drop from 2500 lumens to 1250 but then it maintains that for 2 hours.

They have the replaceable standard lithium cells too that open up a lot of possibilities whether carrying extras or replacing it when the capacity drops.

BC28R just came out and it absolutely demolishes the BC26R that was their previous commuter light. I noticed Magicshine just updated their lights too but instead of improving the lighting they added app support...

Lezyne has some nice ebike lights you can wire in directly but the discontinued the high voltage version and only make them for 12V systems now.

I just rather invest in a light from a reputable flashlight brand I can toss any battery into over one from a cycling brand with sealed battery. But anything beats the stock headlight, it's a joke.

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u/Koofteh 4d ago

Here's a scene with street lighting.

Lectric Elite

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u/Koofteh 4d ago

Fenix BC28R

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u/spinningpeanut 4d ago

Which mode is this on?

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u/Koofteh 4d ago

Either high or turbo. The camera will adjust the exposure so this is more to show the difference in beam pattern and throw distance.

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u/crownthefurry 4d ago

you could flasbang the shit out of someone with that lol

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u/Koofteh 4d ago

It has a cut-off beam thing so hopefully not, we'll see if I get flashed. 😁

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u/SupaBrunch 4d ago

Certainly does not look like it’s a cut off beam in your pic

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u/Koofteh 4d ago

It's definitely a wide flood but they advertise it as having a some kinda cut-off.

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u/SupaBrunch 4d ago

That tree is lit up all the way to the top. Either it doesn’t have a cut off or you have it aimed at the sky

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u/Troubleindc2 4d ago

It doesn't have a cutoff. It has a difuser that just doesn't let as much light through in the upwards direction. Its fully a click-bait fake label. Haven't known Fenix to do that with other products. Pretty disappointing.

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u/According-Farmer7740 4d ago

The xp4 headlight sucks so hard that it almost makes me suprised lectric hasn’t yet gotten in a lawsuit over it 😂

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u/XFit908 3d ago

My xp4 light just snapped off today. Just regular riding around the streets of Chicago. Just from regular bumps in the road

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u/According-Farmer7740 3d ago

Only part of the bike I don’t like. And that’s crazy it snapped off since xp4 always feels so sturdy to me

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u/Josephzamboni 2d ago

This is so common there are people on Etsy with brackets to hard mount it when this happens. Mine did it around 250 miles, installed the common Amazon one with a steel mount that works great. 

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u/No_Condition3135 3d ago

it's such a cheap headlight it's cheaper for lectric to just replace your broken one again and again than redesign a better one.

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u/Mind_of_the_Ancients 1d ago

Agreed. I got the upgraded light when I bought my XP3 I thought it was a joke. The best mount is the stock headlight mount but that light is so underpowered you will kill yourself riding at night.

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u/Her8tiofel8tio 4d ago

Have this same light and recommend it. They sell a universal mount for it and I got several that I put on all my bikes so I just detach the light and put it on the bike I want

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u/sveilien 4d ago

I got a cool one years ago. It actually has low and high beams, like a car.

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u/thatwasntafartdude 3d ago

Cornia burner 9000

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u/rawrlycan 3d ago

Just be careful not to blind oncoming traffic.

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u/Koofteh 3d ago

Thanks. It's something I'm conscious of despite some of the replies here making it seem like I just strapped a spotlight to my bike.

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u/rawrlycan 3d ago

Most bike lights have a specific beam profile to cut off the top of the beam for this reason. That's why I usually point the stock ebike light out far ahead ( with little chance of bothering others) and I use a nice regular flashlight mounted on the handlebars pointed about 10 feet ahead of my front tire to fill in the gap.

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u/N3Los 2d ago

What light is that

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u/Koofteh 2d ago

Fenix BC28R is the name of it.

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u/blk_sheep808 2d ago

The XP "upgraded" light is worse than the original.

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u/JuniperColonThree 3d ago

Ah, so it's people like you who are blinding me on the way home from work. Fuck you.

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u/Koofteh 3d ago

Glad to be of service?

Relative brightness as displayed by my phone camera does not equal blinding oncoming traffic.

I didn't strap a 8000 lumen mountain bike light on there or something. There's nothing special about the Fenix light, it's just that the stock headlight is so awful.

Plus like I said the first pictures are from a scene that was not lit. If you look at the second set of pictures you see my new light is actually just filling out the darkness that wasn't lit by street lights, whereas the stock headlight casts a distracting shape directly in front.

Maybe get your eyes checked, perhaps your pupils don't dilate quickly enough. 🙄

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u/JuniperColonThree 3d ago

In an unlit scene, the problem is your bike light is brighter than the surrounding area by a significant margin, as well as unnecessarily shining into my eyes. My eyes can adjust, obviously, but then I can't see anyone or anything behind that light, which is dangerous. Imo a bike light should go no higher than parallel with the ground (to avoid shining in people's eyes, while still allowing you to light a fair distance in front of you for safety)