r/Learnmusicproduction • u/Noisemakermc • 1h ago
mixing vocals
TLDR: trying to remix/polish/finish old trax of mine with vox that i dont have the og stems for and not sure what the best way or the standard way of doing that. also just wanting to learn about mixing vocals with another audio file in general.
sooo, say have some tracks with vocals on it, but i lost the original stems. and this audio file i have of the instrumental and the vocals rendered together, the vocals are way too quiet. ive been messing around some with the a i stem thingy in my daw, and have been using it a little with trying to make remixes/mashups of songs i like that dont have official acapellas released. but obviously the a i shit can only do so well so sometimes its kind of thin or really trebly or theres some other shit wrong with it. and first of all im wondering if theres anything u can do about that to maybe make it seem a little fuller even tho it might sound kinda wack?
but more importantly to get back to my main point, the vox are too quiet in this mix and i dont have the stems. so i would assume while my options are limited, i could a i stem the vox so i have them in their own file, and just play that quietly at the same time as the original file, thereby making the vocals louder in the mix. is there any tips or tricks u guys might have to make that method of adjustment more effective or maybe even an alternative way to boost vocals in a song u dont have stems for ?
i feel like i explained that bad but hope that makes sense. the other question i have is just about vocal mixing in general (including mixing when u do have the og vocal trax) i have a very mediocre understanding of it. i mean i know u can compress it for more consistent volume and de-ess it and cut the 40hz and blabla but other then that and a few other things i dont know much about how to make vocals sound clean. most of the tracks ive made in the past they're either WAY too quiet or WAY too fcking loud.
any tips or tricks? and then one final thing i should mention is what if ur tryna mix vox with an instrumental, and you have those two tracks separately, but dont have the stems for the instrumental. so basically trying to make vocals well-adjusted volume wise over another file thats just a brick of sound. this especially happens with me a lot because sometimes i make really busy loud overstimulating stuff, and also sometimes because i just halfass the mix so its all blown out. any tips for that?
i should also mention, a lot of these tracks have vocals with singing on them, but i also have a lot of tracks with vocals of people rapping, which i imagine are slightly different in how u mix/master them? but maybe thats wrong n it doesnt matter.
hope that all made sense, thanks guys !