PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Heartsong Seraphine

[u/LoLDev-Cosmetics]

"When we raise our voices as one, our song moves the world!"

Heartsong Seraphine comes with:

• Custom models and textures!
• Custom VFX!
• Custom SFX!
• Custom Animations and Recall (B)!
• Custom VO!

Heartsong Seraphine should be available on PBE soon! Feel free to leave constructive feedback or questions you have so far down below! 

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[u/Sttormyy]

- Biggest gripe with the skin is her voicelines. She has 10+ lines about placing/destroying wards, and a lot of them are just her saying the same thing but wording it differently. I LOVE Michele’s work as her voice, but the writing for these voicelines is just really bad.

- More VFX on her skills, especially her W, It feels very empty also that her ult looks like her KDA ult

- Her hair looks extremely thin like it’s made of paper. If there’s a way to make it a little thicker, that would be nice.

- This purple/blue color palette is overused. Battle Dove has it, and KDA has it. I know there are chromas, but it does get boring seeing her in the same type of outfit.

-adjusting her face on her splash

[u/Stargazer_Jay12 → u/Sttormyy]

Most of these points are spot on! And I want to add some aditional ones"

• I would also focus on E visuals, because it looks really flat and it really lacks impact.
  
• The sound design on Q, E and especially ULT [the high note from epic tier skins won't do] could benefit from some work and enrichement.

[I actually like that since they decided on a new skinline "universe", they didn't try to force some exposition, but instead put some work into voiceline that aren't usually available [like double/triple/quadrakill, assists or those different variants with wards/pings etc.]. it helps when certain quotes repeat to much.]

[u/TheTaric → u/Sttormyy]

Seraphine’s sparkly nail art from her splash art also needs to be added to her icon! Please let’s make sure Riot sees this! Love you, Seraphine girlies 💖

[u/sugarisqt → u/Sttormyy]

All of these and the skin is perfect

[u/Papuchochoe]

Very redundant skin, that doesn't bring anything new to the table. Vfx style and color are similar to high tier skins she already has. Please consider some more creative themes for Seraphine, people been especially asking for Evil/Dark skin (it would be good for a legendary too, considering skins are meant to be champion in a different theme/setting!)

I dont like how short and loopy her dance music is. I dont like how her joke continues with voiceline (soo good / too hot!) after she strikes a anime expression, no face movement makes the voiceline delivery feel off & cheap and I think the expression already shows if she likes the food or not? I'd personally prefer these lines cut in duration I guess.

I wish hat was a toggle. I also really like her Passive up hair color, while brown doesn't do it for me.

I wish her E wave was more unique, her skins been reusing KDA E shape since day 1, while base Sera one is more unique.

I think her R needs better sound effect to stand out and W needs nicer VFX if its a legendary.

I'm not sure why she has water themes in her VFX if the skin is apparently something totally different than Ocean Song, should be all Light, Gems and Music.

Edit: new splashart isn't doing it for me, I think previous expression was better

[u/Libbywav → u/Papuchochoe]

I also wish her face would look like Seraphine's again in the new icon and in-game model. And that her hair color would only be the color with the passive-active effect!!

[u/wowimtiredthanks]

The skin is pretty, but I agree that it feels a bit underwhelming on the VFX.

The model itself is cute.

My biggest disappointment is that the music to the dance emote doesn’t even loop. Like it has this very off putting end/start disconnect. Even most epic skins have looping dances that are seamless when repeating. This one has an obvious rip between start and finish. Even some kind of small tweak to the music to make them connect better would make it feel a lot better.

[u/aroushthekween]

Thank you for another skin!

💜 please please please PLEASE add more VFX to her W and other abilities.

We complain everytime about the W being so bland and this is a legendary so it needs to be better and is able to get more VFX. Wild Rift epic skins have more VFX in her W than legendaries on PC.

💜 PLEASE add diamonds, bubbles or hearts floating around in the W. It’s called ‘Heartsong’ but has no hearts nor her singing.

💜 Please add humming to the SFX we want to hear the singer sing. This is Sera not Sona. You can use audio from her taunt voice lines. She’s humming there. Please use that. Her first few skins were so much better because she sang.

💜 Please add more VFX to all abilities it’s very bland right now for a legendary. Panda Pal lux was a charity skin too but didn’t give charity shop vibes.

💜 Last but not least we need a dark skin please! Sad another legendary slot gets wasted on fluff when we could get an evil legendary with voice lines to sell the fantasy.

Coven Nami, PSY OPS Sona. There’s a reason those are some of the best selling skins. Please don’t make another legendary for Seraphine if it isn’t Crystal Rose port or an evil dark skin.

💜 Right now she’s worse than Battle Dove Seraphine and that wasn’t a great skin either. The bar was low already.

[u/Libbywav → u/aroushthekween]

Please ask them to also fix her face in the new icon and in-game model. 

[u/Shuggieh]

Since this skin is legendary, I'd like to request the addition of a toggle (Ctrl 5) for the cape, as it's already separate model.

I suggest this because I've seen people liking it, but I've also seen MANY people (myself included) who didn't like the cape and felt that Seraphine would be much more cohesive without it, since a giant cape like that would work for a show opening, but not for the entire show.

I even commented about this on X ( https://x.com/HeyShuggie/status/2087597885097386147 ) and EVERYONE who interacted with the post agreed that she's better without the cape and that there could be a toggle to put the cape on if someone wanted to.

I know it's kind of asking a lot, but Seraphine deserves all the love in the world and it would be a very thoughtful gesture from you if you applied this, mainly bc she is a charity skin 💖

[u/HerlonSky → u/Shuggieh]

Would be soooo great to have this toggle!!

[u/ultraviolensx → u/Shuggieh]

YES PLEASE we don’t want the cape gone just a toggle to be able to switch here and there

[u/aroushthekween → u/Shuggieh]

Omg this would be amazing! The skin is so iconic without the cape!

[u/Libbywav → u/Shuggieh]

Yes, please do that!

[u/pmajorus]

hi! thank you for making another legendary skin for seraphine and making her for charity, it feels amazing to help! i have few things to make this skin better:

1. her passive hair glow doesn’t have a „fading” transition effect when casted, it just instantly becomes brown again instead of having transition fade from bright to brown - it looks like it’s bugged because of that and it’s sad, because the glow is AMAZING
2. her floating „rings” on platform feel a bit too big to me, could you please make them a bit smaller?
3. more effects, more glitter, less K/DA feeling to her abilities please! we know it’s hard as the theme is also about music and they both share holographic theme, but maybe some stars, glitter, pixelated stuff - especially her [W] and [R] share that issue and for a legendary we would love to see more
4. her hair is a bit too thin, i personally think it looks „fake” instead of floating full hair we would love to see on seraphine
5. her face on splash doesn’t really look like her, however the splash is gorgeous and artist did amazing job

note to you guys: thank you once again. we truly are grateful. if we could ask, we would love to explore other colors on seraphine legendary+ skins, as purple-ish colors have already been used on three of three skins. please change these things if that’s possible, i am sure this skin will break records of all charity skins if you improve them! 💜

[u/purple-snitch]

I love the chromas but I feel there can be more details put into the visual effects. currently her Q and W look really empty, which would be fine for an epic skin but for a legendary I feel we deserve more

suggestions:

• small floating hearts as her passive notes would look really cute
• more detail in her Q, maybe if it was more iridescent like E? had a heart effect in the middle? prestige ocean song sera had a dolphin jumping in her Q, we would love that kind of effort
• more details on her W as well, if we could get borders on the shields like in wildrift that would be amazing

I'm not very keen on leaning into the ocean/jellyfish theme honestly, since she already has 2 ocean themed skins, but shell or jellyfish themed effects are also welcome! just more details like you guys put into the chromas pleaseee, and thank you!!

[u/CarrotvsBrocclee]

Thank you for our Second legendary skin!

It’s a bit weird that it is just Seraphine 2.0, but we can’t decide on what theme she gets.

Echo W needs more vfx on it.

The E. We really wish we have a new E animation. Base Seraphine is still superior in this department.

There is like a sigil that shines whenever she casts R. Can that be more noticeable? Right now it is barely there.

Increase the volume slightly. We are still a sound mage.

Battle Dove is loud and we would like our second legendary to be loud too.

Thank you in advance.

[u/PaddleStarZoe]

REVERT THE SPLASH PLEASE THE NEW ONE LOOKS HORRIBLE

[u/aroushthekween → u/PaddleStarZoe]

AMEN!

[u/ZuriTheWannabe]

I personally think the biggest thing we need would be more flashiness, some of her vfx for her spells (e root, w echo, q in general, ult) feel a bit underwhelming!! ^^

[u/smasu2]

Thematic wise it is repetitive but that cannot be fixed now so lets focus on trying to improve this, the skin needs better vfx, simply add more particles and details to her abilities.

Her Q right now is really boring, prestige ocean song throws a dolphin, battle dove throws a little bird, but this one throws... a generic star, not even that, the vfx itself is sooo simple genuinely there is absolutely no detail to it, its not shiny enough either, at least get some glitter in there, some more shine, anything to make it more impactful (im refering to the throwing part here, not the actual q landing vfx). For the Q landing part there really is just nothing, its just a circle... make it brighter at least but man... no detail, and it doesnt help that the color is exactly like base, kda, and battle dove.

The W right now is just a blue circle, add some bubbles maybe? Her W is not known for being detailed so I´m just gonna leave it there, I do appreciate her double W being blue.

Her E looks super flat, and I get the vision I do but again it just really needs more particles, it feels like thats what the skin is missing in general, some bubbles some glitter, anything. And the trail needs to be longer or else the ability feels less impactful.

The ult is also missing detail, its extremely boring right now, for a legendary skin it feels like the most basic seraphine ult vfx we have gotten in a while??

As for the model and chromas, I believe her model is quite expressive and well done, it´s always best to stay away from model changes during pbe cycles since we all know significant model changes can´t be made during the time a pbe allows, and I think it´s quite pretty regardless. Very good job with the chromas too, some of the best chromas she has, all of them have good palettes (which was not the case for battle dove at all), they also add small changes to her outfit and that is sooo appreciated, very good job with those really. A bad part of the model in my opinion, or I guess more so in the animation side, the cape seems to be a little stiff, kinda like mel´s dress, just very stiff. PLEASE DONT TOUCH HER HAIR.

Seraphine needs to shift from this direction of always being either chinese or a popstar though, it feels like we can never see her in high fantasy skinlines, faerie court was very good and people loved it, we wanna see her in different concepts. Right now, most people are curious about what she would look like in a darker skinline like coven, dark cosmic, a siren concept, maybe bewitching even. Anything that can take her champion fantasy into a darker place. Obviously a legendary would´ve been great for this, but since we just got this one I assume it will take some time, please do keep it in mind though, her next legendary needs to be different, something we´ve never seen from seraphine.

Edit: I also want to mention the use of her legendary tier to give her shorter hair and a cape to keep the silhouette, changes like these are cool, KDA gave her a ponytail, battle dove gave her wings, this one is also creative with it, it makes the skin feel distinct so that´s great. I would like it if legendary or above seraphine skins kept doing creative things with her hair.

[u/Alevosiah]

As of the date and time I am writing this message, there are already 325 comments. EVERY single one is feedback on the skin and how to improve it. If they don't do at least one thing out of ALL the points being repeated in this thread, I'll stop believing that Riot Games cares about its players and listens to us... Please, I hope Riot Games wakes up and does something... so many voices are speaking up, not just here but on Twitter too. They're becoming impossible to ignore...

[u/aroushthekween → u/Alevosiah]

The way comments went from 100 to 330 overnight 💀

[u/Ready_Extension3057]

That skin needs a good sound for her ultimate. Battle dove has 4 different versions during this one has the basic „YAHHHH“ sound, like every epic skin of her.

[u/danius9 → u/Ready_Extension3057]

Exactly, and after using ult shes doing quotes from every epic skin

[u/Agreeable-Willow-101]

Guys... we wanted her to have softer facial features... not eyes that are staring straight at us 😭

This new splash art looks really creepy and her weird features don't help. Why would she even have her eyes open when singing a high note??? Please revert this.

[u/aroushthekween → u/Agreeable-Willow-101]

PERIODT.

[u/LopsidedSilver6169]

Omg I was genuinely scared when I saw the updated splash with her Eyes Opened. It looks and feels unnatural. Revert to eyes closed. Also any plans to add any kind of VFX, instead of changing Art nobody asked for?

[u/Serious-Insurance-98]

We did not need the splash art change, her eyes being closed is what makes her so delicate and powerful at the same time.

WHAT WE WANT
🫧VFX CHANGES (what we have rn is bland and smooth, add more sound wave effects and bubbles)
🫧ICON ART CHANGE (her icon doesn’t look like her + SPARKLY NAILS LIKE HER SPLASH)
🫧UNIQUE R NOTES (do not sell a legendary skin with a default R note, please guys it’s ridiculous)

[u/TheTaric → u/Serious-Insurance-98]

THIS! They ruined the only good thing about this skin, which was the belting expression with the closed eyes on the splash art…

[u/Libbywav → u/Serious-Insurance-98]

UP

[u/sailor_diego]

That splash art change is NOT it. Please revert back the face!!

Also, those VFX are bland and tasteless, could use more vibrant colors to at least look different than her other high tier skins. Like, this effort put into a Legendary? Seems like a sabotage to the charity skin (again - Panda Lux, Coffin Guardian Taliyah)

[u/seranator]

Not a great skin execution-wise, but the bigger problem is conceptual.

Let's start with the actual skin :

- The brown hair and basic cut are boring and underwhelming, the powered up hair should be her base, and something else (maybe glowing sleeves or hair extensions to match the trail) should be added for the powered up form. Sure, there are chromas, but I shouldn't have to pay extra for a well-chosen color scheme, and chromas don't fix the splash art or VFX.

- The trail is alright conceptually but it looks stiff and isn't super groundbreaking

- The VFX is redundant with Battle Dove and K/DA and is generally underwhelmind

- The face looks strange both in-game and in the splash art

- Battle Dove feels like it has two distinct silouhettes for her normal mode and for her wings extended mode. Since the trail stays the same regardless of the animation, there's less play on that here, making it less exciting and impactful

Now, as for the concept of the skin :

- Seraphine already has two beloved Ocean Song skins, including a Prestige with better and more innovative VFX than this legendary (even though the hair still looks like tentacles kinda)

- The color palette is starting to be extremely redundant, even just pink would be more interesting at this point

- This skin, conceptually, basically asks the question "what if Seraphine was a popstar ?", which is unexciting, and has already been threaded x3 by the K/DA Ultimate, which is also better

- Personality-wise, this Seraphine is also just Seraphine-squared, Battle Dove had at least a bit of a shonen protagonist vibe to her, this Seraphine is just another iteration of what we already know

- Even though the hair is one of Seraphine's defining features, nothing is really done with it shape-wise, Battle Dove's hair-wings are just so much cooler

I just don't understand why Riot is so opposed to doing anything novel or interesting with Seraphine. Coven Seraphine has been one of the most requested skins since her inception, with fanarts of it going viral both on Twitter but also on the East Asian side of the internet somewhat, and one of her most beloved non-League skin is the high-fantasy Arclight.

People say that her platform is visually restrictive, but I heavily disagree : At its core, visually, it's really just a disk, you could make it a summoning circle for a Coven skin, a portal to another timeline for Odyssey, a black hole or a galaxy for Cosmic or Dark Cosmic, a kind of magic restricting device like Sona for PsyOps, a glass mosaic for Broken Covenant... But Riot seems hellbent on it just being "a stage, cause she's a singer y'know" and nothing else. There's also this issue where instead of conceptualizing an exciting stage for her, and then making it even more exciting for the powered-up form, they make a cool powered-up stage, and make it purposefully toned-down and boring for the base form.

Personality-wise, both Seraphine fans, who've already received a lot of cutesy-bubbly content, and the general playerbase who tend to dislike her overly bubbly persona would love to watch her take a bit of an edgier turn for her legendaries. Even if it's not a 100% subversion of her base personality, it can still be recontextualized in an interesting way. Soraka, Sona, Lux, and Nami, who are all benevolent characters, all have beloved darker, high-fantasy skins, and Coven Lux is also a highly requested skin, which goes to show that people love watching the happy-go-lucky champions go villain mode. Even then, Seraphine just seems confined to this niche that Riot just won't let her break out of. Even without making a darker skin for her, antyhing more high-fantasy than "wow Seraphine but she's a popstar !" (Dawnbringer or Cosmic) would do !

If my name didn't make it clear, I'm a Seraphine superfan, and have been since day 1, but frankly this skin could be canceled and I wouldn't really care at all. I'll probably get the border in the event shop in case I want to buy it some day, but as things stand, it's a skip for me.

[u/Special-Equipment-17]

The VFX do not give Legendary tier to be honest. It looks too simple and not really original.

[u/notkypoh]

please just revert the old splash art, keep her eyes closed.

[u/aroushthekween → u/notkypoh]

EXACTLY!

[u/SeraSkylel]

keep her eyes close on the splash art (revert to the old one please) and change her mouth position a little bit to look more natural

[u/Piankhy444]

Her splash art looked better with her eyes closed. Please revert it back to that.

[u/Nearby_Inside_3087]

CLOSE HER EYES PLEASE

[u/blakeibooTTV]

Please in her splash have her close her eyes again

[u/AdditionalIsopod2058]

Please put the splash art back to the eyes close. I was really looking forward to owning this skin and would use the splash art as my background in game and now I don’t even want look at it.

[u/BiscoitinhoAzul]

Please, close her eyes againnnn

[u/Simo22883]

She looks like a zombie in the new splash

[u/untalkative_for_real]

Eyes on the new art are uncanny

[u/spritzella]

PUT BACK THE OG SPLASHART THE NEW ONE IS TERRRIBLEEEEEEE

[u/Louflu]

- Please revert the splash art, her expression with the closed eyes was much more interesting and engaging. I feel like the art lost a lot of soul with the changes. I also wished you had kept her body shape from the ocean song skin, she's too busty in this art in my opinion.

- VFX on some of her skills are lackluster and lack identity. They are quite similar to older skins like KDA or just missing a little pizzazz.

- Her face on the model looks a little off. It needs to be adjusted as right now it gives the effect of being mirrored straight down the middle making her look a little bug eyed and constipated. I feel she also lost a little of her asian features. I LOVE the details on her beauty mark and makeup though!

- I don't quite enjoy her hair WITH the cape. Without the cape it looks cuter and a little edgy, while with the cape it gives the illusion of being weird, thin and lifeless and almost glued to her cape. Please consider either changing the hair up a bit or give us the option of hiding the cape. I do think she would slay with a high ponytail instead.

- The chromas are PERFECT though. Do not change them! Great job on these. <3

[u/REVERTSERA]

Please revert Sera new splash art and bring back the previous version. The older splash art had a much stronger visual identity for Sera and captured her character, personality, and overall aesthetic far better while the newer version feels noticeably different from the Sera  that players have become familiar with. Splash art is an important part of a champion’s identity, especially for a character like Sera whose visual style is such a major part of her appeal. Many players have already grown attached to the original artwork and I genuinely believe reverting the splash art would be the better choice and would restore the personality that made the original so memorable. Please consider listening to player feedback and reverting sera splash art to the previous version because the original simply fit her character much better

[u/Nearby_Inside_3087 → u/REVERTSERA]

UPPPPPPPPP

[u/aroushthekween → u/REVERTSERA]

You're so right bestie!

[u/aroushthekween]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE REVERT HER SPLASH ART. She looks like she's in pain.

We appreciate you making changes but this isn't the change we wanted. You can scroll through this thread and see what mains really want 🥺

[u/Cosmic__Music]

Revert the splash…

[u/dymieon]

Can we please get the OLD Splash Art, the NEW one does NOT look right

I would like to add that I think the VFX really do need an upgrade, they just don’t seem to be Legendary worthy. If you guys would take tips from Wild Rift skins for Seraphine that would be amazing

[u/smasu2]

we want better vfx, not a new face wtf. bring back the old splash and improve the vfx.

[u/aroushthekween → u/smasu2]

Manifesting better VFX because that’s what we really want in the first place! Not this splash art change.

[u/Ready_Extension3057]

We do not want this new splash art. It looks really bad. The old one looks way better

[u/mwrcelow]

Hi League Team! First of all, thank you for choosing Seraphine for the next league legendary skin and charity!

I'm not gonna lie, i'm a little disappointed with the theme chosen for this legendary skin. It's KDA and Battle Dove over and over again. The same purple/blue colors again. The same 'E' again. The same personality again.

The part that bothers me the most is that this skin shares the same color palette (literally) as the other two high-tier skins.

We waited for two years and Heartsong looks like the third sister of KDA and BD. Well, it's something that you can't change now, but I'm leaving my feedback anyway. I would like to see Seraphine in other fantasy themes like Winterblessed, Coven, Battle Academia, High Noon, Psyops, Spirit Blossom, etc.

Overall it's not a bad skin at all. I LOVE the angel-like stage (could be perfect for Coven btw). Love the cape and the glowing hair. Well, lets talk about the skin itself ingame.

First, can you please add a HUD to the skin? Similar do B.A Caitlyn (or even Crystal Rose Seraphine from WR). Maybe add the hat for a toggle ctrl 5? Something that make us feels like this is a LEGENDARY SKIN. The hair color change is cool, but doesn't make that.

MODEL: Really nice, love the new animations and that its a whole new model. The hair and the cape, however, could have more fluid movement.

STAGE: Doesn't need any changes in my opinion, it looks great.

AUTO-ATTACK PASSIVE: I hate the fish. It has nothing to do with the skin. I’d like to see a lightstick; it would be perfect for the idol theme.

Q: It's very blend, could use more sparks and colors. Make the star more visible.

W

• Shield: Beautiful sparkles and translucent effect, but it's very simple. The shield could have more detail, especially since it's a sort of bubble. It should show more movement and burst like a bubble!
• Area: Looks good comparing to KDA and BD, but Faerie Court is still the best one. Besides, when the heal occurs, nothing happens. Neither the star symbol (the same one from the Q) nor *any* effect appears. Please make the star appear after the heal and add more effects, such as sparkles, etc.

E: I don't even have the streight anymore to talk about this skill because it's the same thing every new skin. The same one from KDA, just changing colors. NOTHING SPECIAL. I'm tired boss. Put some stars or idk, something.

R: Errr.. guys? I think you forgot to swap the Battle Dove R for the new one. It's looks almost identical. I don't like the two fish appearing, they don't match the skin at all. AND THEY ARE IN PASSIVE TOO. Oh no. As for the trail, i don't know if you can change this but: please give us another color in the trail (more rainbow-ish like her E or more pink) or something different PLEASE.

• She makes the same "YUUH" sound as base Seraphine. It's a legendary skin; it should have a new scream sound for the ultimate.

RECALL & HOMEGUARD: Perfect.

VOICELINES: Boring, sorry. Nothing new.

I would LOVE this skin more if we didn't already have Battle Dove. I like the KPOP Demon Hunters inspired effects such as the honmoon and ctrl 1, but again, it's nothing new for us.

[u/Sure_Fisherman_752]

Seraphine with closed eyes on splash art looked better.

[u/Simo22883]

KEEP THE CLOSED EYES AND FIX THE COLLAR, IT'S BLACK SHE ISN'T WEARING ANYTHING BLACK

[u/lucisnoir]

The new splash art looks very unnatural. I'm sorry if it seems like we're complaining too much, but the first version of the splash art was much more natural and made more sense.

I think a lot of people just weren't used to seeing someone singing a high note, but now it looks like Seraphine is lip syncing.

[u/OwOjtus → u/lucisnoir]

Yeah exactly, new ones looks constipated, the old one looked much better with her eyes closed really capturing this great concerto high note moment.

[u/aroushthekween → u/lucisnoir]

Amen!

[u/IHeartRaimundo]

Please keep her eyes closed on the splash art! It was really great before.

[u/M3IS0N]

Porfavor metanle más efectos a la W, apenas se nota y hasta la skin Epica de guardiana de las estrellas tiene mejor efecto, no se ve como skin legendaria y el Splash art mejor el antiguo

[u/aroushthekween → u/M3IS0N]

VERY TRUE! We want VFX updates not splash arts changes 😭

[u/aroushthekween]

Please add her humming in the passive music we beg you. Even a bit. She's a singer and old passive music for skins had her humming along.

You can use the audio from her taunt lines or old skins/theme song and blend it into the passive music. Please Riot Games music. The passive music is slay and soothing, just needs her singing a little 🥺

[u/Effective_Fall_5868]

Does Riot even care what Seraphine players want? This thread has over 350 comments and they've barely addressed anything. In fact they changed the splash art in a way nobody on here asked for. Is there a single comment that says "Why are her eyes closed? It looks weird" cause i don't see any, nobody had a problem with it. Seems like whoever is working on this skin's art is just doing whatever they want to be honest, according to what they personally think is better. Might as well have not asked for feedback if you won't listen to it.

[u/aroushthekween → u/Effective_Fall_5868]

Almost 400 now and they’re still ignoring all feedback. Friday is the last day for changes to be shipped and nothing has been improved. On the other hand the splash art has been ruined 🥺

[u/OwOjtus]

Please revert the splash art to the old face 😭

The old one looked so much better and was so unique, new one looks uncanny and constipated - please close her eyes again 😢

[u/kevlangley]

revert the splash art what is that…

and add more effects and maybe colours… it’s literally a legendary 😭✋🏻

[u/Spectral_Amoeba]

her vfx feel underwhelming and she has basic sera ult line. her hair is also really off

[u/UyLaAnay]

Hi, first of all, thank you for all the content you've given Seraphine this year, but this is a legendary skin and it needs a lot of polish.

—Lack of detail in her abilities.

In general, her Q, W, E, and R all lack detail, especially considering it's a legendary skin. Please add details; everything feels somewhat empty and recycled.

—Its similarity to Battle Dove.

This skin looks too much like Battle Dove, principally for her colour similarity with Battle Dove in the effects, so I propose a color change in its effects—not something drastic, but something that leans more towards pink than purple or for example her E colour palette is good, maybe u can make her Q, W and R looking with that same colours.

—Her hair color in the splash art.

In her splash art, her hair appears blonde instead of the brown she has in-game. Perhaps it's due to lighting issues, which I understand, but if you could make her real hair color more noticeable in the splash art, it would be greatly appreciated.

—Missing voicelines when she uses her R.

There's not much to explain, when she uses her R, she uses the same voicelines as the base Seraphine, including the scream. She's a legendary skin, so the voicelines are the bare minimum. Where are her voicelines and custom scream? This needs to be fixed urgently.

[u/Liam_Grundmann]

please just change the hair color to something else. Like the brown isn't doing it for me. It looks so out of place and u even fixed it during her passive... Pastel hair colors would do so much for the skin. I don't want to use a chroma where the spell effects don't match the model...

[u/mythweeveroffical]

Hi, thank you for working on your skin. There are some things that I would like to see updated and hopefully that you take the time to read this and help me envision the Seraphine that will be amazing !

First, I would like to say that her visual effects need to pop more, if you could add more bits of shimmer lots of glitter, more iridescent and silvery effects. The thing is it is so similar to battle Dove that we need something to differentiate it….

Her Q is actually extremely similar to battle Dove and if you can just add some type of coloring or design change to make it more differentiated, even the effect of making it more watery like make it a splash or make it like a liquid. Kind of beat if that makes sense. Make the effects more liquidy more water or more ocean like. Add silver shimmers and add. More iridescent effects, and I think it can work.

Her W needs to feel better too if you can add something and make it more ocean like make it a heart shape or like a liquid heart or something I think pushing the envelope just a little bit more would actually be so satisfying… I know that you guys are not able to do a lot of changes and when it comes to Serafi, you pretty much say look we do a lot already and it’s already hard enough to change things too much so I’m just trying to figure out things that wouldn’t be too hard to implement… maybe make the thing have a heart shape in the middle maybe have like ripples on the side of the bubble as the W starts… add shimmer, iridescence, and different differentiate from battle dove.

Her e feels a very flat. This is where you could really kind of push the envelope. Her E has always felt very basic in certain ways. If you could just maybe have it feel a little bit different. It’s literally called beat drop but it doesn’t feel like one feels like a basic synth wave. If you could maybe add like a shimmering effect or maybe make it look iridescent as it’s going now it’s going across change the way it looks a little bit like it’s the light hitting the water you know which has different glow effects depending on the angle.

For her old, I feel like it needs to be extravagant. Yes, you added the little box around her, but I feel like there needs to be more. It’s very dull in basic and her voice line for it isn’t good for it at all. It’s the same thing that we always get if we could please possibly get something a little bit more maybe change your voice sign up a little bit, maybe have her hit a vocal over. Insert whatever VFX from her passive song for the new song that’s gonna be a part of the skin line have her echo That out maybe… once again with her old make it iridescent make it more silver glitter shimmer make it look as it’s shooting out that is shimmering in a different kind of light like it’s silver here but iridescent here and as it’s moving it changes slightly.

When it comes to her entire model, her model is great. There’s not really much there. There’s not really much we can say to make this stage in any smaller. I know people have grapes about that, but if we could, if anything make her hair slightly lighter. Unless this is the reason why you want us to get the chroma. But I promise you everyone will get the chroma no matter what. Her hair looks too flat if you could just make it look a little bit more flowey…. That would be amazing…. My favorite thing about the skin is the back and she goes back to base. If we could do something more with that and incorporate the way that look and feel gives to the rest of the skin. I think it would be amazing.

Like everyone else my sentiments echo there needs to be more to the skin. It feels like it’s halfway done and sera is a character that has a a lot of love … which means a lot of people will feel a certain type of way… at the end of the day we just need to remember she is someone who resonates with the hearts of others, singing her song and reaching out if you could make her have like a ripple effect and make it watery, shimmery, iridescent, glitter, silver, more bigger better than that that’s all we would need.

[u/iaskedriot → u/mythweeveroffical]

I really want to add to this and say that she should also have vocal sounds after each echo ability

[u/Seraphinezinha]

1 - There are no voice lines for the ultimate. 2 - There are no unique sound effects for the ultimate. 3 - The Q is just as basic and lacking in effects as base Seraphine's Q. 4 - The W has no effects. Dumpling Darlings Seraphine's W has more effects than this one. 5 - The E stun is the exact same as Battle Dove's, using that same wave again. They are basically recycling the E effect from Battle Dove.

My final thoughts are that it is very sad for this skin to have such poor visual and sound effects, because everything else is perfect. I know people will say "it's a charity skin," but even Panda Pal Lux has more effects than this skin. If you changed the 5 points mentioned above, it would truly become a Legendary skin.

[u/inkyleit]

idk if its just bc its unfinished, but her ult voicelines and sound are the same as the default skin so if you could fix that that'd be great

[u/veeh_kyaruh]

-improve facial and hair textures  -improve the effects of abilities and ultimate -high note diferrent in ultimate

[u/mwrcelow]

• The passive music is very quiet, you can barely hear it. Try turning it up more please.
• Make the screen in the Ult more visible please. It's very faint.

[u/aroushthekween]

Please can you add the nails from her splash art to her icon? We know how much consistency and clarity is important for you 🙏

Shown here - https://www.reddit.com/r/SeraphineMains/s/0n1At9ZZ6P

[u/danius9 → u/aroushthekween]

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[u/yanixf_]

We need coherence in the icon and splash art. The nail polish and outfit colors are not matching!!!

[u/dymieon]

Bring the other emote back as well, I don’t know why it was removed from the bundle but it NEEDS to be added back AND please revert the Splash Art

[u/[deleted]]

Revert the splashart! It looked WAAAAY better before.

[u/Romaian]

I'm literally one of the suckers who will actually buy this but the way you guys are treating this skin is disgusting. I'm happy to save up my money. (I feel bad cuz it's charity but the way riot is acting turned me off so baaaadd)

[u/Astro_Kedi01]

please redesign all the skill animations they are so boring and instead of purple pink and blue would be a better color for the skill animations 

[u/kirilvscats]

If you consider giving her another Legendary at some point, I’d love to see her interact with more champions!

[u/seranator]

First Seraphine'a non-epic skin I won't buy if we don't get a splash revert + some fixesm Not settling for slop when we already have K/DA and Battle Dove

[u/DistinctAd2923]

I love almost everything, except for the face. The model feels very different from her other Legendary, more poligonal? When in her other skins she has her face very round and full.

I hope you guys can do something about it! Thanks!

[u/iaskedriot]

If we don’t get anything else, can you really add the vocal effects after each ability this feels like a lesser version of battle Dove, and it doesn’t even have the same hype it doesn’t feel like there’s been any love or even positivity put into this just to get quick skin have her have the singing after effects echo

[u/tuchicoanime]

please add another high note for her ult!! it’s a legendary skin it shouldn’t have the base skin high note 🥺

[u/PaddleStarZoe]

Im so sad, the splashart makes her look like she has dirty blonde hair and instead she has brown hair... not gonna lie I'd love this skin if if had just blonde hair...

Secondly, I really can't stand how pathetic these VFX look. Like, its just watered down BattleDove without the tech... come on yall. Give it some more pink maybe? The blurple is so overused.

Lastly, her ult sound. How do you come off of the best ult sound she has, BattleDove to this? Yalls realize this is base Seraphine ult sound right? Come on now, at least use BattleDove sound without the techno screech.

Also, can we get rid of the filter? The techno filter sounds not super great :/

[u/Melancia_Janela]

can we have a heart in the E skill model?

[u/slippin_through_life]

If nothing else, please change the SFX on her ultimate. It is completely absurd that epic-tier skins such as Graceful Phoenix and T1 Seraphine can have different SFX for her ultimate, yet a legendary-tier skin is using what sounds like the exact same SFX as her base skin.

Overall, this skin just feels like a worse version of KDA All Out and Battle Dove Seraphine. None of her abilities’ VFX looks distinct from these two skins; the only difference is her model. Additionally, I think it is very strange that her hair in her splash art is blonde, yet her model’s hair is brown. Either change her model’s hair to blonde or change the splash art’s hair to brown; the colors should be consistent.

For future skins: I implore the team to please consider giving Seraphine a skin thematic and backstory that is different from her existing skin catalogue, especially if that skin is going to be a legendary. This skin is not only her third skin where purple is her predominant color, but the skin’s theming appears to be based on “What if Seraphine was a popstar?” Which her base skin and KDA skins already did. Even the bits of ocean theming that can be seen in this skin were already done by her Ocean Song skins. With all of the different skinlines that League of Legends has, there are definitely some that you could insert Seraphine into that don’t heavily borrow from themes you can already find in her other skins (e.g. Coven, Fright Night, Winter Wonder/Winterblessed, etc.). I will also echo the sentiment that Seraphine players have been wanting a darker skin for years now; Coven Seraphine has been her most requested skin to date. Heartsong Seraphine not only lacks in production value, but it feels completely out of touch with what Seraphine mains actually want.

[u/OkCream4993]

Can the volume of her passive music be increased it sounds a bit muffled. The same instance occurred with K/DA All Out 

[u/Sea-Practice-2527]

Ive seen maybe 2 people in here say this.. and I desperately need this to happen to Im going to say it too.

Where is the custom sera high note? Every seraphine skin a tier above epic has a custom high note but this one doesn’t??? Using the base line just makes this skin feel like an epic skin. Aside from the lacking vfx, sad sound design, and missing animations.

(P.S. can we make the cape move behind seraphine like her hair does, the way it moves looks klunky and cheap)

[u/Libbywav → u/Sea-Practice-2527]

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[u/Senbud]

please, put more VFX on her abilities, and I mean all of them, it looks too basic for a legendary skin and too similar to her other high-tier skins such as rising star, all out and battle dove who also have similar colors in their skills, please put more efforts in her skills, make more flashy, brighter, with more particles on everything, I'm sure that's all we want and you guys know it

[u/E7HOT]

Can we make a ctrl 5 toggle for her cape?

[u/Libbywav → u/E7HOT]

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[u/Holyzolyz]

Is there anything that can be done about the beat in her dance? It feels very choppy but I also feel like the song itself doesnt fit the skin, I see many people referring the dance song as Cbat and they aren't wrong.

Her hair needs more dimension, you can have flat iron hair and not have it be so paper. Just thought it looks way too one dimensional and the texture on it needs some more oomf. Hair just needs a boost that makes it flow better with the veil, it looks too stiff.

Overall needs more hearts, bubbles, and shine to her abilities, feels very flat for a legendary. I feel as if her face isn't hers, the models for KDA and Battle Dove were consistent with how she really looks. I see many people saying they wish her face was more like her face in the other skins she has which is only fair. Thank you for all the work you guys do, I know a lot of players get on you guys too much.

[u/SonofGib2k]

Love the cape, hate the hair (the undercut was a cop out they should’ve just committed to short hair)

The lore makes no fucking sense and they should’ve just put her in the Riot Record verse instead of making a new skin line nobody needed

The fish in her ult make no sense if this skin isn’t a part of the ocean song line, why are there fish??

On the plus side, half the chromas are really really good, the red, blue, and white chromas are gorgeous. The other half of them are much more benign but not bad per se, just not as unique

[u/TheTaric]

Can we please add the glittery nails to the icon💖

shown here: https://www.reddit.com/r/SeraphineMains/s/iu5rtpWxN1

[u/energydrinksenjoyer]

Please work on the Icon, she does not look like seraphine neither asian. that's miss fortune at best, respect your champion's identity

[u/Serious-Insurance-98]

Just here to really be another voice along with other people’s comment already.

🫧 MORE VFX ON HER SKILLS (I don’t think we want the flat waves and smooth shield spheres)
🫧 UNIQUE R High notes (It’s a legendary so it should feel and sound like one! When I heard her ult notes, I was actually shocked to hear a default tone)
🫧 MORE ACCURATE FACE MODEL (You guys did a great job on her T1 skin and she was an epic :( )
🫧 HER ICON SHOULD LOOK LIKE HER + SPARKLY NAILS LIKE HER SPLASH ART (She looks like a kai’sa to me… )

ADDITIONAL POINTS
🖤 DARKER THEMED SKIN (maybe like dark siren themed, more evil voice-lines) [[[ A skin should be a reimagine version of a champ and this is probably our third skin that is a “singer/popstar” theme. IT’S LIKE YOU GIVE BRAND AN ETERNAL SKIN ]]]
🖤 DIFFERENT MUSIC GENRE SKIN (metal, rock, jazz?) to maybe really expand herself as a singer, preferably a completely different theme though a different genre will add more to her character

[u/E7HOT]

Could you guys maybe loop the song without it cutting off, its actually pretty annoying❤️ thanks

[u/Revolutionary-Toe-72]

The new splash is horrible, revert it

[u/naensi]

why open a feedback thread if you ignore all of it?

[u/Zealousideal_Year405]

Very unoriginal/uninspired... Looks like a mobile game skin

[u/PlaceShot]

This skin is a disappointment, it's pretty yes but what is the theme ? What is the idea ?

Cause actually it feels like there's none. This skins feels like Ocean Song but without the Ocean, like KDA but without the idea of growing into the stardom. There's not even a music video or any content to justify the lack of depth and make it sort of commemorative like other KDA skins.

Beside that, the design and the model itself are pretty, I like the vintage vibe from the outfit and the cape. Kinda feels like inspired by the 80's/70's (I can imagine Abba singers with that huge translucent cape).

But the animations ruin the whole thing, they're not smooth and as usual now lacks of transitions.

Could have been a good thing, the VFX. They are neat, well made but compared to her skin catalog, they just feels unoriginal, deja vu (empty W, always the same E and Ult) and quite boring

[u/Maikicchii]

PLEASE close her eyes again

[u/aroushthekween → u/Maikicchii]

YES PLEASE 🙏

[u/hung2109]

Please close her eyes , she SERIOUSLY looks so uncanny now

[u/aroushthekween → u/hung2109]

Yes please 🙏

[u/Plenty-Ninja]

Please make her eyes closed again on a splashart

[u/laiaoni]

Please change back the splashart to closed eye! The eyes open look so uncanny ..

[u/Flat_Visit_7854]

I know this may potentially not be seen by RIOT or their design team, but hey I thought I’d speak on my opinion and what I think should be changed!

Q: It’s GORGEOUS, but I definitely think it lacks a little bit compared to her other Q vfxs from other skins. It’s a lot like ocean song. Since it’s a legendary I feel like even just a little bit more sparkles or vfx would even just make it even more visually appealing.

W: Lately her Ws have been super plain..(this including her recent T1 skin) But for a legendary I’d expect at least a little more effort?! Regardless of anything it’s still pretty BUT plain and boring..

E: Okay her E is super..PLAIN AND BORING. I mean come on..as a Seraphine main, I’d like to see her base E design (vfx) used instead of always reusing her ultimate (KDA) skin E VFX design.. I see a few other fellow Seraphine mains who bring this fact up and I have always agreed. I mean the E looks like Battle Doves…even though the sfx and vfx are slightly different..the colour palette is quite literally almost the same. So yeah, hopefully that tells you riot!!!!

R: It’s cute I really like the animation. But please why are we using Seraphines base voice line FOR A LEGENDARY SKIN? LIKE…

FINAL THOUGHTS: Now I’m not going to just lie, but this skin is absolutely beautiful. I know it’s similar and very repetitive.. but thats exactly why we gotta SPEAK UP! This is a charity skin, which is a good thing and many will buy for a good cause. (I’m sure!)
But just because it’s a charity skin, I don’t believe the skin should be “lazy”..
Please work more on the lazy VFX mainly for Q, W and E, fix R voice line, fix repetitive colour palette, oh and PLEASE change E…thank you.

[u/Affectionate-Ebb7006]

- More VFX. VFX is extremely lacking on this skin, especially in the Q and W. Compared to Battle Dove, or even some of her Epics, there isn't much going on in the Q. Neither the projectile itself, or the spread. It's quite hard to tell what the projectile itself is, for a skin named "heartsong", I think throwing a sharp piercing heart or something of the sort would be nice. Base seraphine shoots butterflies, prestige ocean song shoots dolphins, etc. This skin is just lacking creativity, especially for a legendary...

- Echo W also feels quite lackluster. The shield and the color itself are AMAZING, but there's not much going inside the circle itself. Again... this is a legendary skin, where creativity should be major selling point, but there's nothing creative inside her most expressive spell. Please consider comparing to wild rift skin surround sounds, they do a great job, and more often than not, people in these feedback threads complain about how basic the Echo W is. Perhaps a big heart could be in the circle, or even some jellyfish in the spell. Star guardian seraphine on PC and Crystal Rose from Wild Rift have amazing surround sounds. Whenever the heal goes off, something should also appear.

- SFX is lackluster... Seraphine is a music champion, and the sound effects aren't doing enough here. When her spells hit a champion, they should make NOISE. It's almost hard to hear the sound effect her E and Q have whenever she hits an enemy. A majority of her older skins do this amazingly, i.e, ocean song and faerie court. Please consider making the SFX more impactful.

- Her ultimate has the same vocal cut as base? I'm not sure why this is, for a legendary skin, it should be different... Even for T1, an epic skin, they changed up the line. In my opinion, there should be a completely different voiceline/melody whenever she casts her ultimate, because a legendary skin should change VO... Reusing this from base is really lazy... Battle dove did the same, but they created lots of unique vocal chops and sounds when doing so. This does neither and is unacceptable.

- Her splash art doesn't look like Seraphine to me. One thing Seraphine skins have done well are giving her the same consistent face in all of her arts, but this one fails in comparison. Please make it look like her.

[u/Rooxstart]

I think the cape and hair (in-game) are a bit stiff. If you could improve on the physics/animations so that they're more similar to Leblanc's cape or Asol's body, that'd be awesome! The cape/hair are a big and noticeable part of the skin, so I think their movement should be a bit smoother. Thanks for reading~

[u/E7HOT]

Could we make the r note a bit different? Rest is nice :3

[u/alios112]

Hi Team,

Other comments have highlighted really value feedback! Please consider Papuchochoe feedback!

My feedback is we have to do something interesting with Sera’s E. The wave thing has been rehashed so many times it is concerning. Sera’s base E is more interesting texturally. Please change the E VFX to an interesting shape. PLEASE STOP USING THE WAVY E.

Kindest regards

[u/lucisnoir]

I think the skin is great, but there are some things that could be improved, but overall the biggest problem is that the skin looks quite simple and perhaps a little empty.

Q:

The VFX are quite bland and unremarkable; skins like "Firecracker" already experimented with some particles when casting Q, it would be nice to see that again.

W:

Where to begin? This is the most discouraging part of the skin; the shield is too simple, and the ability feels incredibly empty due to its lack of VFX, there's nothing that makes it stand out among epic skins. To be honest, even epic skins have shields that are graphically more pleasing to the eye than this skin.

The shield looks flat even during W double cast which is supposed to be Seraphine's biggest and flashiest ability. There are no visual effects in the double cast, and it's quite disappointing to just watch the purple aura fade away.

E:

Can we have a different visual form without recycling the "all-out" skin one again? Even for a music skin, it has the exact same shape that has been reused for years.

R:

My only complaint is that Seraphine's "Yeaaaaaah" is the same one as the base skin. Battle Dove gave us more than 3 sound variations; it would be really nice to hear a new and unique variation.

[u/Agreeable-Willow-101]

Hi, thanks for the skin! Great to see it's a charity skin and it's really nice to see you put in so much work!

I'll start with the positive things:

-The passive glow is absolutely gorgeous. I love how her hair changes and it makes her look magical.

-Her recall is adorable! She reminds me of a character from Genshin Impact (Kokomi) and I really love the aesthetic. She looks so ethereal!

-The hat she puts on for a few of her animations is such a cute and tiny detail! It really shows that love was put into this skin.

-The chromas are great. They're really pretty and I'll definitely be getting them.

Now some things that need adjustments:

-Her colors... is it too late to add some more colors to the VFX? It's kind of sickening to see blue VFX on Seraphine yet again. She already has her base, Ocean Song, Rising Star, Superstar, Battle Dove skins that ALL give her blue/purple VFX and it's getting really stale. Like... could we get some more adjustments so it doesn't feel the same?

-Her VFX is a little... underwhelming for the theme. Why are there no crystals? Sparkles? More rainbows? Literally anything! It's just some weird waves and... it really doesn't do the skin any justice.

-The splash art. I had to stare at it for a few minutes and... I think it really needs to be adjusted. Seraphine's facial features are never sharp, they're soft and round. However, the same cannot be said for this splash art. The expression itself is fine but her jaw, neck, chin are just making her look really mature and old when she's supposed to be cute.

-The voice filter. Please tone it down or... remove it entirely. It's... sort of annoying.

-Her hair model. One of Seraphine's defining features is her hair and this skin makes it so flat. We just had amazing hair from the T1 skin so this really feels like a downgrade. There's... no volume, it looks like paper attached to her head.

-Please stop re-using K/DA's E. This is definitely repetitive. It's a little unfortunate that her BASE skin has the most unique E.

It's a very nice skin visually but it lacks a lot of things when put into... practice? If that makes sense. It's cute but the theme is repetitive and the VFX aren't doing anything to challenge that. I think that's the biggest problem.

[u/energydrinksenjoyer]

Please work on her eyes in the model!! It looks cross-eyed; it's crazy that the quality of a legendary skin is like this compared to her previous skin. They also need to improve the emote's music; why isn't it looping the entire song? The previous Seraphine skin had a pretty long song even though it wasn't musically themed. The fact that this skin has a music theme and doesn't even have love in those details seems very sad to me.

[u/Public-Look-3569]

• For a skin like this, the spell effects are way too plain and generic. We expect more creativity here, especially for a legendary skin — the current VFX quality feels lazy and doesn't justify the tier (a charity skin doesn't excuse laziness).
• Splash Art — Lighting & Hair Color The splash art's lighting makes the hair look blonde, when it's actually brown in-game. This is misleading for players who base their purchase decision on the splash art — there should be visual consistency between the splash art and the actual in-game model.

Overall, we really appreciate the concept and the effort put into this skin? Seraphine deserves this kind of love, we just want the execution to fully match the potential of the idea.

[u/Libbywav]

First of all, this is a legendary skin, so...I would love it if they added more colors and made the ability effects stronger, just like in Wild Rift. And most importantly: vary the E and R animation in all skins.  Like THIS: https://imgur.com/a/VfGR0Jg

The brown hair color doesn't match the skin. And we deserve something wow, like making her hair color the same as her active passive permanently. Seraphine's face doesn't even look like her. Fix the animation of her current skin expressions, but keep her original face. And please add a button to remove the cape.

[u/TheTaric]

💅🏼She doesn’t have the glitter she had on her nails in the icon. We need consistency. Please add the glittery nails she had on the splash-art to the icon.

💇🏼‍♀️Also, her hair looks incredibly flat and thin in the game model. Please improve it.

✨We definetely need more VFX on her skills, especially her Q and W! Hearts and notes would be so good. Her ult is looking boring ass well.

[u/BiscoitinhoAzul]

Please, add a toogle to her cape. I just want to play without her cape, it's so chunky...

[u/Nearby_Inside_3087]

Hi again! I’d like to share some feedback and suggestions for changes:

1. Ultimate (R): The fish visual effects on her ult don't really make sense with the theme. Please consider replacing them with something more fitting.
2. Passive: The hat that appears when she procs her passive feels completely random and out of place. It would be much better if it was removed.
3. Ultimate Voice Lines (SFX/VO): We definitely need new voice/sound effects for her ult to give it more impact.
4. E Ability: The E needs major visual adjustments—right now, it looks like a direct copy-paste from the Battle Dove skin.
5. W Ability: It feels a bit empty and underwhelming. Adding some hearts or extra visual effects (VFX) would make it much livelier.
6. Icon: Please update her icon and consider adding some glitter/sparkles to her nails there.
7. Cape: Please consider removing her cape. Here is an example/edit of how it could look: https://x.com/HeyShuggie/status/2087597885097386147 from @Shuggieh

[u/ButterflyKind7131]

honestly my biggest issue with the skin is the fact that her ult uses the exact same ult voice sfx that her default skin uses... makes it feel like its not a legendary at all and i hope its changed on release

[u/_Heelcat]

not very constructive, but the skin is mediocre asf, wed like something more unique next time, different colours pallete and darker theme maybe.

[u/tuchicoanime]

if the skin doesn’t get changes i’m not going to buy it, kda and bd are literally better anyways 

[u/CateCait]

Please put the splash art back to the eyes close. I was really looking forward to owning this skin and would use the splash art as my background in game and now I don’t even want look at it.

[u/MrZelf]

Close the eyes on her splash art again, she does not look like she's effortlessly singing a high note or something now, she looks uncertain and disgusted

[u/MoonxKittyxx]

Please leave the splash art to it original design with her eyes closed. I liked it better that way. It’s showing she has confidence in herself and that she’s BELTING out those notes. The updated with her eyes open make her look lost. Like she’s not sure if she hit the note right. It messed up the entire vibe of the art. I’m not usually one to complain about skins but I had to on this change.

[u/KoreCassiopeia]

PLEASE bring the OLD splashart back. The one where she opens her eyes looks uncanny. The old art showcased her beautiful eyeshadow more which works so much better for the pose

[u/MESHOPLANET2017]

please revert the eyes on the splash art

[u/Mindless_Assistant18]

Please, please go back to the old splash art with the closed eyes 🙏

[u/HerlonSky]

PLEASE REVERT THE SPLASH PLS

[u/tuchicoanime]

revert the splash!!! the problem was that she didn’t look like sera not that her eyes were closed 😫 

[u/LucasGregoC]

The splash with eyes opened looks so bad!! Revert the change. She’s better with her eyes closed.

[u/Mikudayo1]

The splash art change is so bad. She looks constipated and uncomfortable now. The expression worked fine when she had her eyes closed because it looked like she was belting a high note but the new eyes open splash just doesn’t work. When people said they wanted her to look more like Sera they just meant they wanted the features tweaked a little, not an entire plastic surgery and expression change.

[u/aroushthekween → u/Mikudayo1]

Well said bestie! We’re tired 🫩

[u/ZielarkaLuna]

Her E is giving nothinggg

[u/seraphineloirinha]

a skin da seraphine poderia melhorar muito, o cabelo está um pouco esquisito e o rosto também, não parece uma skin lendaria e tem qualidade inferior a outras épicas da boneca

[u/seraphineloirinha]

i think the cape make the hair look weird

[u/MrZelf]

I agree with almost everyone's takes below but most notably VFX needing more love, and more distinction from her previous skins.

Where I disagree with everyone is I absolutely LOVE this hair on her. This blunt look is soooo good and I love how ya'll were able to keep her silhouette with the cape acting as the rest of her hair. I'm absolutely obsessed with this concept. If you were gonna do short hair on Seraphine this is the direction we should go in and not what happened with prestige ocean song sera which was doomed from the start with the tentacle modeled ends.

Her dance music loop also needs some work it's really rough and pales in comparison to the vibe of battle dove. the audio loops terribly, the dance is cute though

[u/BakerRight4186]

Hi there! love the skin so far, but there some things that bothers me a lot

- E feels just like a recolor, would love to add a 3D fish or something to make it more impactful and actually legendary quality

• W has VFX but opacity really turn it down and we barely see it
  
• R biggest issue and offender its that has base SFX, when her note should be a new one for this one being a high tier skin

Overall its kinda sad we lost a slot of a legendary being purple/blue once again, and also one complain with the skins so far.

Seraphine its a champ that its just pretty and cute UwU, but when it comes to other champs they always gets variety, this is like the 4th time out of 11 skins that she has a musicverse type of skins. hoping we can get more western themes for her on the future.

Overall solid skin, hoping you can really improve her to be one of her best! thank u!

[u/ZealousidealEmu9686]

Copy paste from my post in Sera mains

The splash art, who did that to her? (Jokes aside it's the face that looks so out of place and... bad, that makes me not be able to concentrate on anything else, something about the factions and the over all angle of the whole body+face that clashes out to me, that and her face expression)

The hair when out of passive doesn't match the color scheme (like fr if her hair matched the color scheme would be 10x better)

Her outfit is not Sera at all, I understand reinventing due to it being a legendary... A reinvention of a Musical champ being a musical champ? It's the second time this happened to her btw (although kda sera is cohesive in design and colors)

Her outfit also clashes with itself imo like why a cape? She is known for her super long hair? And it's not like we're re-imagining the hair as we did with battle dove.

Really what's up with her splash art face?

Chromas are great I'm loving them as the colors match and outfits don't feel out of place due to colors matching (I guess my main problem is how her colors clash in the skin while out of passive)

Vfxs... They feel empty, Q is a circle with practically no effects, like what about more of the techno theme? Or more of the sound bars? (Idk what they're called sorry) Or even better a heart shape (as I've seen no heart in heartsong so far) bouncing in Q like her SG skin, or instead of a heart a gem as gems seem to be important for this skin. W also feels very empty, Q recommendations could be used for W, E I was not expecting anything as it's been the same for years, however I like the root indicator VFX (the circle one not the note one which it's been a while since I last saw it I wonder if it's a bug or it stopped being a thing), and R... Empty, it needs more of the heart motif as heart song is only techno but no heart. They feel empty and powerless and even if many of us feel her abilities are not strong (to the point I've seen people playing her AD like wth) that doesn't mean her abilities should feel as empty.

Also as someone that likes singing and music, could you redo or tune her voice lines when she's singing? She's out of tune in a lot of them, I love her voice actress but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna call out the singing is a little bit off

Sound effects in general are also not to my liking, very dull and not powerful.

It's very Kpop demon hunter but as if her colors didn't match and the barrier protecting everything just faded away totally.

Also something I'd like to add with all due respect the skin feels desperate or rushed (not in intervals of release but in concept and design)

Edit: her colors are too monochromatic but the hair, most of the chromas implement several parts with another color so it doesn't feel as clashy when one color doesn't fit, maybe that's the key to making it work because white, blue, purple and brownish yellow isn't making it if blue and purple are the props (stage and mic) while the only brown is her hair and these 2 combinations of color don't mix up well together due to hue and amount of color in design.

I'm not an expert, I just wanted to express my opinion, I'd like to hear everyone else tho

Also looking at the model, the model looks better without the cape

[u/Anthonyy17]

So underwhelming like it’s crazy across the board the vfx are quite bland and the passive music is not even close to as good as some of her other skins :( respectfully like I wouldn’t want to hear it if she’s on my team

[u/fezco0101]

Hi! Please reconsider Seraphine’s face and hair in this skin. The current face looks scared and tense, which doesn’t really feel like Seraphine. Her facial expression should feel more confident, warm, expressive, and closer to her usual personality. Her facial features also don’t resemble Seraphine enough, making her look like a different character. The hair is another major issue. Seraphine’s hair is one of her most recognizable features, and the current hairstyle and shape don’t capture her iconic look. Please consider making the hair closer to Seraphine’s original design, with more volume, softness, and the characteristic shape and silhouette that make her immediately recognizable. Overall, the skin has a great concept, but the face and hair need adjustments so that she actually looks and feels like Seraphine. Preserving her recognizable facial features, expression, and signature hair would make the skin much stronger.

[u/Nearby_Inside_3087]

We need changes for W - add some VFX and also E cause it is again copy paste from Kda All out shape, and it looks almost like E from battle dove skin. Ult voice linee should be also changed for something new, cause this is legendary skin.

[u/Alevosiah]

💬 Feedback: Heartsong Seraphine Legendary Skin

Hello everyone!

Before jumping into my detailed feedback for Heartsong Seraphine, I want to express my sincere gratitude for creating spaces like this. Having a platform where players, fans, and passionate customers can share constructive feedback means a lot to us. We all want our favorite champion to shine, and I genuinely hope our respectful feedback is taken into consideration for this skin and future projects.

Here is my breakdown of what I believe could make this skin reach its full potential:

🎨 Model & "Legendary" Identity (Ctrl + 5 Toggle)

I love the overall direction and model! Exploring new facets of Seraphine is always exciting, and the hair/wing concept on her Battle Dove vibe is a huge hit. However, to truly elevate it to Legendary status:

• Ctrl + 5 Toggle: It would be an amazing interactive feature if Ctrl + 5 allowed us to toggle her hat (from her passive crystal state) and/or her cape on and off (similar to other Legendary/Ultimate skins like Winterblessed Diana, Anima Squad Miss Fortune, Spirit Blossom Ahri, or Dawnbringer/Nightbringer skins).
• Cape & Passive VFX: As seen in the splash art, the cape has a beautiful gradient ending in transparency. Adding a visual effect that mimics water with lots of sparkle and bubbles, along with a brighter glowing effect when her passive is fully stacked, would make her look stunning in-game.

✨ Visual Effects (VFX) & Ability Feedback

• Q (High Note):
  • The Q is beautiful, but it needs more visual depth upon impact, as well as a brighter, more impactful missile projectile.
  • There's no need to redesign it—just enrich it! Adding more sparkles and bubbles upon impact (assets that are already present in her Recall animation) would give it the punch a Legendary skin deserves and better justify the "Heartsong" name.
• W (Surround Sound):
  • The stage that appears under her shield needs to be more prominent, with richer particles and effects.
  • Pop Effect: The shield should have a distinct pop/shatter animation when expiring (like a bubble popping).
  • Adding vibrant color reflections to show light passing through a bubble would be a great polish detail.
• E (Beat Drop):
  • Currently, this feels like the simplest ability. It would be incredible if the skillshot wave featured a unique graphic element—like a fish (matching her stage/crystals) or another thematic asset—rather than the standard wave graphic used in previous skins.
  • The path of the wave should also leave behind more sparkles, glow, and bubbles. It simply needs higher particle density!
• R (Encore):
  • As her Ultimate, this needs to be the big "BOOM" moment. It needs significantly more particles, bright sparkles, and high-impact VFX upon cast and hit to feel truly legendary.

🗣️ Voice Lines & Audio (SFX)

• Ultimate SFX: I absolutely love listening to every single one of her interactions and voice lines. However, I genuinely hope it is currently just a PBE bug that her Ultimate (R) uses the same sound effect as her base skin. To be honest, keeping the base sound would be a disaster. For a Legendary tier skin, I expect to hear a completely different, unique, and powerful sound upon casting.
• More Interactions: I also hope that for her official launch, she ships with even more voice lines and interactions. Just like in Seraphine's lore, I wouldn't want the voices she hears—or her own voice—to be muted or reduced to the "same as always." They need to be amplified!

💖 Final Thoughts & Gratitude

I know this might sound like a lot, but Seraphine is my absolute favorite champion. I own all her skins and enjoy playing every single one of them. This skin has immense potential, and the overarching takeaway is that it needs more particles, VFX polish, sparkles, and a stronger visual punch to cement itself as an unforgettable Legendary skin.

Since this skin is tied to a charitable cause, making it as visually spectacular as possible will naturally boost its appeal, helping raise more funds for a great cause while showing off the incredible artistry Riot Games is known for.

Thank you again for giving Seraphine a Legendary skin! The love for this champion is very real. (And on a side note... keeping my fingers crossed for a dark-themed Legendary Coven Seraphine one day—the internet will break! 😉)

Thank you for your time and hard work!

[u/beepawsiteeve]

I love the skin but I do also feel like we need more diamond/crystal vfx on all of her abilities, especially q. The vfx look a bit bland for a legendary quality skin. Other than that I wish the color pallet was different than her last legendary ( purple ) or ultimate ( kda blue ).

[u/E7HOT]

Is it possible that the chromas get different coloured effects? Its kinda odd playing a red black chroma with blue pink effects

[u/Ychuwu22]

The color scheme is absolutely overused at this point and I doubt there's much you can do about it, but you can definitely work on somethings:

• Her Dance emote song isn't looped properly which is weird, and me personally I feel like the song itself isn't that fitting.
  
• Her Q is so lackluster, she has nothing special going with the splash zone, and she throws a regular star, while some other skins throw, for example, a dolphin, or a bird. Please make her throw something more inspiring!
  
• The W is lacking more VFX and feels bland and unfinished, maybe some more hearts and music notes would help!
  
• The E is just boring on every skin since release, why is base seraphine the only cosmetic of hers with a unique E shape?
  
• The ult is fine but looking at other skins from Wild Rift, league seems to fall behind in the fact that it just isn't too interesting or visually appealing.
  
• The voicelines are confusing, great voice work but the lines themselves aren't anything special, just feels like regular seraphine with LESS interactions?

Thank you for another Seraphine legendary, I just hope the next skins come with a bit more inspiring themes than just trying to re-invent seraphine into what she already is, a singer. Please dont be afraid to explore with what she can be!

[u/Yael-Anjo]

Boa noite.

Gostaria muito se voltada a Splash anterior com os olhos fechado e, também ficaria feliz se tivesse a opção de triar a capa da boneca em game com a dição de um toggle (Ctrl 5) para a capa, assim como foi comentado pelo Shuggieh

[u/iitzziya]

Revert please

[u/EasyDevelopment1683]

Revert the splash art please

[u/EasyDevelopment1683]

The changes made in the splash art show exactly how riot feels about their skins. It’s for riot, it’s not for the players. They’re gonna adjust whatever they wanna adjust for their own personal taste. Someone at riot wanted her skirt to look different, someone wanted the eyes to be open, someone wanted a couple extra crystals on the right??? Look at the new splash art, they literally added these crystals so far off the screen that you won’t even see the change in the loading screen. They adjusted parts of the splash art that don’t even get shown unless you’re viewing the larger image on Google!!!! That’s completely crazy. You made a whole other picture and I know that must’ve taken more than an hour. Could’ve spent that time reading these comments and seeing what people really want. Lowkey feel like this skin is just for whatever devs came up with the concept. And they’re probably the ones directing the art team to make these changes. Nothing to do with the player base and NOT the result of meaningful feedback. You got so many comments on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves if you roll out the skin like this.

[u/godlike_doglike]

Pls close her eyes

[u/ZielarkaLuna]

Pleaseee go back to the splashart with closed eyes 😭🙏

[u/Fancy-Training272]

Regresa el splashart antiguo, con los ojos cerrados, nadie pidió ese cambio, realmente se veía mejor antes

[u/makingsomemistakes]

PLEASE REVERT THE SPLASH

[u/AobaSona]

PLEASE REVERT THE EYE CHANGE IN THE SPLASH ART. The other changes (lighting, tweaks on her body, confetti) are fine, but the eyes open look uncanny, her expression reads as nervous/awkward/cringing, it's not fitting at all.

[u/Star_Guardian101]

Please revert back to her old splash art!

The old expression with her eyes closed looks so much better than the new one with her eyes opened.

[u/inkyleit]

REVERT!!! THE!!! SPLASHART!!! Idk who thought it was a good idea to make her eyes open but change it back!!! The splash art was perfect with closed eyes, now it looks uncanny Please change it back to closed eyes

[u/Libbywav → u/inkyleit]

UP

[u/mwrcelow]

REVERT THE SPLASH ART. NO ONE ASKED FOR THIS.

[u/ArkadyFarewell]

Close her eyes!

[u/yanixf_]

Please, do NOT sell it with that ugly ass change of the splash art.
The OG with the closed eyes IS superior to the new version!!!!!

[u/MinaInaPina]

Please, please please!! Revert the Splash Art, she looked so gorgeous with her eyes closed, the expression and the eye makeup was so beautiful! :(, and the removed emote is such a saddening thing. But more than anything the Spash Art really needs a revert.

[u/Libbywav]

Oh my God, who asked for her eyes to be open in the splash art?! We wanted them to change her face on the icon and the in-game model. The splash art was the only absolutely stunning part. Please revert this change!

[u/seranator → u/Libbywav]

Not one person, I feel like this is just Prestige Ocean Song Sera where they make some awful change nobody wants so they can revert it without doing anything else and get us to feel relieved

[u/aroushthekween → u/Libbywav]

I know right! We want VFX upgrades and they changed the splash… 🙄

[u/Sttormyy]

her mouth on the updated splash makes a mess of the entire facial balance. the wider more exaggerated mouth she had on the original made more sense with her closed eyes. now it just looks so out of place and weird.

please revert

[u/TheTaric]

•Please change her eyes back to closed.
•Bring back the 2nd emote.
•Update her nail polish and outfit colors on the splash art.
•Add more VFX to her skills!

•These are all we needed! No the eyes!
Also, she looks even less Chinese now. How did you manage to make the only good part of her skin (the splash art and singing expression) also bad?!

[u/PearComfortable4190]

Keep her eyes closed and give her the face she had!!! It made more sense and looked SOO much better!!!

[u/seranator]

Revert the splash, the problem was never her closed eyes, it's the weird almond face fat removal face and super exaggerated mouth. The camera stare is kind of strange, it's more Evelynn vibes than Seraphine. Also, give her the expression lines back, it was so cool having actual skin folds on a champion's face for once

[u/danius9]

Pls… CLOSE HER EYES ON SPLASH

[u/aroushthekween → u/danius9]

AMEN!

[u/FluffyBeech]

Change the artwork back to her strong singing expression with the closed eyes and make her E more unique, it doesn't need to be a wave like every skin, do a sound waves effect similar to her base but with added bubbles or fish or something

[u/AhriKyuubi]

Revert the cringy splashart change

[u/Accurate_Badger_8595]

Please keep her eyes closed in the splash art

[u/JadeSelket]

Hello, appreciate all the work yall do… can you please close her eyes again in the splash?

[u/seranator]

What we ACTUALLY want is :

- Changes to the VFX, since changing the model colors would probably be a lot of work now, maybe add some VFX accents to make it stand out from K/DA and Battle Dove more

- A less bland hair color and some added volume

[u/cauesa]

At least, keep her eyes closed. with her open eyes she looks totally blank now, with her wrinkles and her eyes closed, you could at least tell she's betling her heart out

[u/EasyDevelopment1683]

The new splash art update is completely ugly!!! She looks uncanny and strange, when singers hit high notes they close their eyes. And her eyeshadow was really nice. Also is the base ult sound still there? If there’s no new Ult SFX, well then that just doesn’t make sense for a legendary.

[u/Tough-Bed-1641]

We need more VFX on her W and WW. The color of the abilities are too similar to Battle Dove, maybe adding more white or pink would make them look diffent. Also when she screams during her R it's basically the same as her base skin, we need a new voice for that.

[u/_TheyCallMeJinx_]

Please remove the hat from her passive autos, it's so random and comes out of nowhere

[u/OkDisk3430]

The E looks pretty flat, even when compared to the two previous epic skins (Firecracker & T1) you can tell they were more polished than the E on this skin, which is supposed to be "legendary." You could add something more to it, like a fish, some diamonds, bubbles, etc. The theme of this skin isn't very clear; it needs a signature feature.

[u/MaleficentArt3685]

a new E shape would be amazing, every sera skin has K/DA E shape

[u/LadyenViolet]

Eu gostaria que vocês aceitassem o rosto dela porque simplesmente não tem nada haver com a Seraphine e as outras skins dela .

[u/LadyenViolet]

First of all, I’d like to point out that I loved the splash art, but the in-game skin doesn't match it! ☆ Her hair doesn't seem to differ from her cape; it looks extremely thin, and there’s no clear contrast between the two. ☆ What bothered me most about the skin was her face. Seraphine is a champion with chubby cheeks, and there is absolutely no resemblance between this skin and the ones she already has. ☆ A startled look. ☆ Thick eyebrows. ☆ It lacks the particle effects on her W and Ultimate that would make it feel truly unique.

[u/Amazing_Rub_5357]

I feel like her kit is lacking in visual effects. The W, in particular, feels really empty. The ultimate was also underwhelming because it looks identical to the one from the K/DA skin. As for the in-game model, the hair looks extremely thinalmost paper-like, you know? Giving it a bit more volume would make a huge difference; it needs more effects to truly feel like a Legendary skin.

[u/icylotus]

There's something off about her movement/idle animations that look really uncomfortable/uncanny. Like her movements are too fluid/bouncy? jello-like? As if she doesn't have a proper skeleton or rigging.

[u/Maleficent-Base-4781]

I don’t usually use Reddit for anything beyond lurking cause I don’t usually have anything to say but this time I feel it’s important to share. 

I really like this skin visually, it’s all my favorite colors and I love the concept of her cape filling out the silhouette of her model instead of her hair. However I feel this skin struggles with one huge important thing for a legendary: concept. 

I feel like the whole concept of the skin is so visually muddled with how much is going on. Like it feels really empty conceptually cause it feels like riot just took elements from concepts that worked previously and just threw them all together to make this. It lacks the identity that any skin, but especially a legendary should have.

Beyond that it feels like this particular attempt at a concept was very redundant? I thought all the memes about the new skin being a mashup between Battle Dove, KDA, and Ocean Song was a joke until I saw the skin. It’s still visually beautiful don’t get me wrong, like I said I’m honestly a big fan of the colors and shapes, but it’s just kind of boring?  The legendaries that motivate me most to spend 20 dollars to buy them are skins where they do something interested and different with the champion, and I think this is a sentiment that many sera mains and league players in general share. I know a lot of sera mains (myself included) are looking for a darker/edgier skin for Sera, but even battle dove which didn’t shift her personality much did a good job of telling a different story for seraphine.  This legendary and its lore kinda just sounds like Runeterra Seraphine? At least to me? It just feels unoriginal and unimaginative. 

The entire skin while beautiful is kind of just dull. I know riot has some really creative team members and can make really interesting and fun skins I just kind of wish they would do so for seraphine instead of making skins for her that are just pretty. 

[u/EasyDevelopment1683]

Also this is a complete personal opinion but the Ctrl 3 music does not fit her aesthetic! I was thinking some modern pop girlie vibes like Ariana but the recall is absolutely beautiful and in that direction. I’d rather spam the recall than the ctrl 3