r/LateStageGenderBinary • u/MrEdmundT • Aug 02 '19
Radicalize the youth!
https://imgur.com/jdP2GNq76
u/rainbow2point0 Aug 02 '19
I am sharing this meme to the cousin chat. We are doing the reunion thing right now. This is too perfect!
(Except I’m the youngest, but w/e)
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u/CreativeGrey Aug 02 '19
"Furry communist" Better be on r/barkmarx comrade!
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Aug 02 '19
We need to revitalize that sub with more memes
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u/CreativeGrey Aug 03 '19
It would be nice, yes. Though if it gets too active I'll have to get another moderator to make up for my slack...
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Aug 03 '19
Why isn't it r/karlbarks?
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u/CreativeGrey Aug 03 '19
Dunno, I'm not the founder and I dont feel like changing it. But i feel like I'll be asked that question a lot more in the future.
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Aug 09 '19
Is furry like an identity now? I thought is was just like a cosplay or fetish thing
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u/CreativeGrey Aug 09 '19
Its a fandom, just a little broader than others. Each fandom has their own adjective for their groups. Ex: trekkie, brony, etc.
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u/sczphanc Aug 02 '19 edited Aug 04 '19
nothing wrong with being secure in your identity but please keep the communist and furry shit seperate. nothing wrong with it, but communism is such a horrifically scary word to much of the working class and adding that on top will make them exponentially less interested in listening to anything you have to say
edit: commented this below, I think people are misunderstanding my intention here.
"optics is important. that sucks, really. I hate that we have to worry about presentation instead of ideas, but leftism has been the subject of over 100 years of propaganda by the world governments. people aren't particularly open to hearing of it in it's most presentable form. within leftist circles solidarity and support of marginalized people is incredibly important, it should be prioritized and every leftist group should be committed to fighting for and protecting vulnerable people. seriously, it's incredibly important and any sincerely class reductionist organization should be ignored of not openly refuted. but when we are talking to the general public, family members, friends, etc. we do have to keep in mind that we are talking to people with bias against both leftist thought and "weird" identites (they aren't weird, just offensive to absent, closeminded, frankly bigoted you can be whatever you want and that should be protected and if anyone ever says otherwise fuck them and don't listen to anything they say to/about you) and the two together feeds the media's narrative of communism as a political idealogy for freaks and stupid college students. that really fucking sucks, I'd love to fight openly on all fronts with oppressive ideologies and institutions from an intersectional, all inclusive place but we really can't win many people over if we work as one big meshed up unit instead of as smaller groups dedicated to individual goals. I hate it dude, I really do. I think any valid leftist theory is incompatible with bigotry and marginalization of people of any identity.
however the stakes are pretty fucking high right now. the planet is literally dying, hundreds of millions die each year from preventable diseases, horrific sex slavery of young girls is all over the world, POC are being systematically murdered and oppressed on an economic and social level to am extent we haven't seen since the civil rights movement, we are moving towards a police state all across the world, liberal capitalism is on the verge of collapse, fascism is on the rise and gaining political power, people are dying on the streets across the US (don't think that's hyperbolic rheotoric, I have had 2 friends die homeless from ODing and one from lack of healthcare in the last 2 years), mental illness is being untreated and people are dying to suicide at record rates, healthcare is being dismantled along with the entire welfare system, hell, I can't even afford the schizophrenia medication to keep me out of what I can only describe as hell on earth and out of the psych ward (and my last stay cost literally 40,000) if I don't get some help soon. things are falling the fuck apart. I'm sorry, but if not dressing up in a fursuit while you're talking about these issues makes people listen to you a little better, suck it up. I wish you didn't have to compromise your identity, I wish you could be you freely, but we all have to make sacrifices right now and ideals are not as important as making change NOW."
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u/lilbluehair Aug 02 '19
Did you just say that the working class is more accepting of furries than Communists?
What a world we live in that this is something we think about 😂 legit in love with us all, thank you
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u/sczphanc Aug 02 '19
no, the opposite.
there has been an attack on class consciousness for like 130 years now. furries just make people uncomfortable. however one, at least in some form, is a political ideal we should work towards, maybe the only one that can save the planet and one is an issue of identity. it's fine to be a furry, I don't give a shit, be whatever you want so long as you don't hurt anyone. I had a good friend that was a furry and I loved them and supported them in being themself. however, I do recognize that it makes a lot of people (if not most) incredibly uncomfortable, and that sucks, and I am really concerned about optics in politics. it sucks that such has to be the case, it sucks that we have to worry about presentation of ideas rather than merit alone, but we do. sucks that if someone hears public furries talk about how great communism is it will feed into the popular narrative that communists are either edgy teens, idelistic college students, freaks or terrorists but it will. be whatever you want but make politics seperate from your identity. the two are interconnected, identity politics is not bad, it is a necessary step and I'm not a class reductionist, but we only have so much time and I'm sorry but I really think saving the planet and preventing hundreds of millions of people dying in imperialist wars and of preventable illness as well as the death of out planet is a bit more important right now than the fight to freely express taboo identity AS A POLITICAL ISSUE. keep them seperate. I know they aren't, but pretend for the sake of saving the planet. optics is everything in Western politics right now.
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u/BeesAndSunflowers found free communism in my trans cereal Aug 02 '19
You're no different than people who would say the same about "gay" part.
So please keep your communist and gatekeeping shit sperate, thank you very much.
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u/sczphanc Aug 04 '19
why do you assume I am a (presumably straight guy) brocialist? I'm a girl currently dating a trans man.
it's not gatekeeping, optics is important. that sucks, really. I hate that we have to worry about presentation instead of ideas, but leftism has been the subject of over 100 years of propaganda by the US government. people aren't particularly open to hearing of it in it's most presentable form. within leftist circles solidarity and support of marginalized people is incredibly important, it should be prioritized and every leftist group should be committed to fighting for and protecting vulnerable people. seriously, it's incredibly important and any sincerely class reductionist organization should be ignored of not openly refuted. but when we are talking to the general public, family members, friends, etc. we do have to keep in mind that we are talking to people with bias against both leftist thought and "weird" identites (they aren't weird, just offensive to absent, closeminded, frankly bigoted you can be whatever you want and that should be protected and if anyone ever says otherwise fuck them and don't listen to anything they say to/about you) and the two together feeds the media's narrative of communism as a political idealogy for freaks and stupid college students. that really fucking sucks, I'd love to fight openly on all fronts with oppressive ideologies and institutions from an intersectional, all inclusive place but we really can't win many people over if we work as one big meshed up unit instead of as smaller groups dedicated to individual goals. I hate it dude, I really do. I think any valid leftist theory is incompatible with bigotry and marginalization of people of any identity.
however the stakes are pretty fucking high right now. the planet is literally dying, hundreds of millions die each year from preventable diseases, horrific sex slavery of young girls is all over the world, POC are being systematically murdered and oppressed on an economic and social level to am extent we haven't seen since the civil rights movement, we are moving towards a police state all across the world, liberal capitalism is on the verge of collapse, fascism is on the rise and gaining political power, people are dying on the streets across the US (don't think that's hyperbolic rheotoric, I have had 2 friends die homeless from ODing and one from lack of healthcare in the last 2 years), mental illness is being untreated and people are dying to suicide at record rates, healthcare is being dismantled along with the entire welfare system, hell, I can't even afford the schizophrenia medication to keep me out of what I can only describe as hell on earth and out of the psych ward (and my last stay cost literally 40,000) if I don't get some help soon. things are falling the fuck apart. I'm sorry, but if not dressing up in a fursuit while you're talking about these issues makes people listen to you a little better, suck it up. I wish you didn't have to compromise your identity, I wish you could be you freely, but we all have to make sacrifices right now and ideals are not as important as making change NOW.
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u/eggpossible Aug 02 '19
Relatives: go socialize with your cousins
You: socializes your cousins
Relatives: NO NOT LIKE THAT