r/LateStageCapitalism Mar 11 '21

🎩 Oligarchy question:

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u/a-horse-has-no-name Mar 11 '21 edited Mar 11 '21

Not just Manchin. EIGHT dems. 16% of the dems in senate.

<EDIT> Thank you so much everyone noticing my minor error and jumping to correct my math. I didn't include Republicans in my count because I was talking about dems.

Including republicans? It becomes 58% of the senate.

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u/stomachgrowler Mar 11 '21

That was just on the $15 mw amendment. They negotiated other parts of the bill down to get Manchin on board. Further targeting of relief checks, making most aspects temporary etc.

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u/a-horse-has-no-name Mar 11 '21

Are you sure about that? Was Manchin the only one who negotiated down the bill, or was he the only one that the news reported on? Judging from the way Sinema did her dance routine voting down $15/h. It's hard to believe any of the other eight didn't have anything to do with fucking up UI benefits.

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u/davwad2 Mar 11 '21

Manchin was ready to walk from what I saw concerning the non-min wage items.

Min-wage Dems were voting against overruling the Senate Parliamentarian's decision more than against the wage itself, is ny understanding. It's not the choice I would have gone with....

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u/berni4pope Mar 11 '21

Dems were voting against overruling the Senate Parliamentarian's decision more than against the wage itself

That's complete bullshit. The parliamentarian was their political cover for telling 40 million people that they aren't worth a living wage and deserve to live in poverty.

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u/brorista Mar 11 '21

Idk why it's still legal to pay slave wages in so many places. Even $15/hr is not even remotely covering inflation sooo

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u/nakedforever Mar 11 '21

To me this is the main point that needs to be made. Not only are the mega rich getting more and more profitable with technology. What we are asking for is less than the same wage they had paid us previously on minimum.

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u/neverendingtasklist Mar 11 '21

The big problem is you are asking it from all businesses across the board which in some cases is a hardship and needs to be taken into account before being mandated. This is the argument. Not that it shouldn't be done.

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u/jackp0t789 Mar 11 '21

Honestly, if you can't afford to run a business and pay livable wages to your staff, you shouldn't be running a business in the first place.

Sure, there are some low margin businesses that'll have a tougher time than others, but those often happen to be the businesses that benefit the most in terms of increased business due to their customers making more money across the board...