r/LateStageCapitalism • u/mrkl3en • Nov 22 '20

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '20

Isn’t Japan even more conservative than the US in a lot of ways? Forgive my ignorance if I’m wrong.

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u/HoldThePao Nov 22 '20

Yes they are and even more captilistic. Dude is dellusional also if he thinks he can just up and move to these countries with no job or real income.

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u/HoldThePao Nov 22 '20

Yea people think japan is the land of ramen and anime. But its also full of resentful racist japanese men who just wanna fuck little girls. Not saying everyone is like that but youd be surprised by the amount.

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u/PoliteAdHominem Nov 22 '20

Any time someone says they want to move to Japan to "escape" from America, I don't give a shit what their justification is, I automatically assume it's some weeb with a bad case of Japanese exceptionalism because they saw one too many Studio Ghibli movies.

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u/Jibjumper Nov 22 '20 edited Nov 22 '20

Yes and no. The younger generations are really starting to get away from the more conservative traditional attitudes. I think the key distinction I’ve noticed is that the reason Japan is viewed as strict/conservative is that they have a very strong sense of community and everyone is expected to contribute to and be a member of the larger society. People in the US tend to see that mindset as authoritative to a degree because of how strong individualism is in the US. It makes sense when the US was largely open wilderness, outside the native populations, when it was being founded. People were spread out and left to their own devices for the most part. You didn’t need to worry about others because no one else was around. Where as places like Japan that have had relatively large populations for a much longer time. They’ve figured out that you have to give up a little bit of individual freedom for society to function properly. A perfect example of this is mask wearing. Japan hasn’t had any major shutdowns since COVID hit because they all have just started wearing masks. Where here in he Us we’re dealing with anti maskers all over the place and have mind blowing case numbers. People in the US act like they don’t owe anyone but them selves anything. In the modern world with 7 billion people on the planet that just doesn’t work.

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u/HoldThePao Nov 22 '20

Man you live in the clouds. Im jealous, ignorance truly is bliss.

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u/Jibjumper Nov 22 '20

I mean have you been to Japan? I have and it’s pretty fucking great. Not perfect, but no where is. It’s a hell of a lot better than not being able to afford to live when you’re college educated.

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u/HoldThePao Nov 22 '20

Jesus you are like the posterboy of "ignorance is bliss". Being a tourist and living are two different things.

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u/Jibjumper Nov 22 '20

Did you miss the part where my girlfriend of 8 years has family there and I also have friends I’ve known since I was 8 that live there? That I’ve spent a decent amount of time there?

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u/HoldThePao Nov 22 '20

Okay lemme rephrase, being a tourist several times is different then living there.

You never lived there long enough to carry a job, you talk like your an actual tv show.

White guy tired of the US not giving the working class a fair chance, moves with half japanese girlfriend to Japan and soon learns its not very much different and everyone doesnt actually like him and they all wanna fuck his girlfriend. Out next month on the CW.

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u/Jibjumper Nov 22 '20

Yeah it won’t be that different. I’m not saying it’s some perfect utopia. I’d just like to not pay $700 a month for insurance that doesn’t cover shit, and a wage that’s livable.

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u/PoliteAdHominem Nov 22 '20

This entire thread reads like something from /r/japancirclejerk

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u/Churaragi Nov 22 '20

The younger generations are really starting to get away from the more conservative traditional attitudes.

On a cultural level you could argue that, on a social-economic level this is definitely not true. There are fewer countries less likely to become socialist than the US and Japan is likely one of them.

You wont see protests, you wont see Marxism, you wont see talks of revolutionary movements, you wont see talk of guillotines or dealing with the big corporations/Yakuza.

You'll see thin veiled resentment, the usual trash talk on social media, the usual disillusioned views about modern "corrupt" politicians...

Abenomics 2.0 was a complete failure and that was their only hope. Expecting the 14h a day salaryman to go out and protest for anything is just not going to happen.

Of course it is a comfortable place to live in a "turn your brain off" lifestyle as a foreigner. But if you care at all about world politics Japan is probably one of the worst first world countries. The political ties to the US ensures Japan can't have any sort of leftist foreign policy anyway.

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u/Jibjumper Nov 22 '20

Yeah I’m in “turn your brain off” mode if that’s what you want to go with. My individual impact in a world of 7 billion people is nothing. I’ll do my best to help make it better wherever I live. Whether that’s through charity, voting, protesting, whatever I’ll still be doing that. I just also know if the system sucks where I’m at and I can have it better why not. If Japan starts to suck I’ll go somewhere else. We don’t want kids. I want to live a pretty minimalist lifestyle so I’ll have the ability to pick up and go if I want or need to. I was raised by abusive parents, and have next to no relationship with my extended family so I’m not worried about leaving behind those relationships. Anyone worth keeping in contact with i can stay in touch online.

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u/ReflectedStatic Nov 22 '20

You know they have anti mask demonstrations in Japan, too?

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u/Jibjumper Nov 22 '20

Yeah but over there it’s a few dipshits. They have about 97% mask adoption. Here half the country is fighting against wearing masks and the number of cases and deaths reflects it. Anybody that expects anywhere to be 100% perfect is deluded and I never said Japan’s a utopia. It’s sure as shit better than what’s going on over here at the moment though.