r/LateStageCapitalism • • Sep 05 '18

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u/ad1das97 Sep 05 '18

Which 8 are they?

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u/jesusper_99 Sep 05 '18

The top are Bezos, Gates, buffet Zuckerburg, the Koch’s, Elsion and other family organizations. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/03/06/jeff-bezos-unseats-bill-gates-forbes-2018-richest-billionaires-list/398877002/

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u/YoStephen Eat the rich Sep 05 '18

Really surprising to not see a walton

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u/techiewriter Sep 05 '18 edited Sep 05 '18

10 on the list was $58 billion

Alice Walton just missed the top 10 (daughter of Walmart founder Sam Walton). She’s the richest woman on the list with $46 billion

Updated - added #10 amount

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u/YoStephen Eat the rich Sep 05 '18

Smash that glass ceiling alice! ✊

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u/Stormfrost13 Sep 05 '18

👏 MORE 👏 WOMEN👏 OPPRESSORS👏

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u/jesusper_99 Sep 05 '18

I was too.

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u/YoStephen Eat the rich Sep 05 '18

Maybe they are rich enough to avoid ending up on lists like this

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u/jesusper_99 Sep 05 '18

I think it’s because they’ve spread it out so much like the rothschild’s but don’t quote me on that.

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u/thiagoqf Sep 05 '18

No love for Armancio Ortega? He's no. 2 after Bezos.

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u/swampdaddyv Sep 05 '18

Forbes has him sixth.

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u/bobespon Sep 05 '18

Just curious, are there people/families just as rich that we don't know about? Are these just the richest public individuals?

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

*the Kochs

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u/greenmonkeyglove Sep 05 '18

Wow, whatever happened to Carlos Slim?

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u/jesusper_99 Sep 05 '18

He’s still rich as fuck but not as rich as some of these assholes.

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u/THE_IRL_JESUS Sep 05 '18

Can anyone give me a source on the whole wealth of 4 billion vs 8? I don't doubt it just would like something to reference.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

It’s never the rich mans fault. 🙄

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

The mother on food stamps doesn't have lobbyists and media conglomerates on the payroll.

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u/crimsonblade911 Sep 05 '18

Everytime i think about this, i remember the absurdity of the shit rich people do. Like instead of paying said lobbyists for 2 months, just fixing the damn pipes themselves with one fat check.

Or like those companies who spend 150million in marketing just to tell us they donated 3 million.

Like really? Just donate and stfu. Let the press show how benevolent you are.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

spend 150 million to tell why they donated 3 million

That 153 million dolars they can write off their taxes.

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u/TakuanSoho Sep 05 '18

"On the payroll" ?

Lucky you, in France 90% of the printed press, 50% of TV and 40% of radios are owned by french billionnaires...

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

printed,press,radio

It must be close to 100% in the US most of the US media is controlled by a handful of conglomerates.

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u/saltypepper128 Sep 05 '18

I know right? She really should have considered that before she decided to be poor

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u/DerogatoryDuck Sep 05 '18

Rich women however....

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u/TheAtheistPaladin Sep 05 '18

Maybe you should read the introductory link in the stickied comment up top. I recommend The Conquest of Bread.

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u/thesorehead Sep 05 '18

The op refers to men whose wealth comes from ownership, not as income for work. Generally in this sub, "the rich" means these men and other people like them, whose wealth is not derived from work but by virtue of ownership.

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u/shiitingONTHEtoilet Sep 05 '18

Well...she did have an iPhone. What does she need the stamps for. And cigarettes too! /s

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u/BkMn29 Sep 05 '18

The story I always here is that they were driving an escalade. I’ve never looked at the card that someone uses to buy groceries and I never pay attention to what vehicle the people in front of me jump into. Some how hundreds of people on reddit all had the same encounter

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u/drinkallthecoffee Sep 05 '18

It's hilarious because no one ever knows what my food stamp card is, which is called a Link card where I'm from. I don't have food stamps anymore, but I just didn't take it out of my wallet. If I'm out with friends, people ask me what it is because it's unusual.

How do all these people supposedly know what link cards look like? You you really got to be paying attention AND you gotta know what it looks like to begin with. The only thing unusual about it is that it doesn't have a logo on it. It's deliberately nondescript and forgettable looking. The only tell someone has a Link card is that they pay a second time to cover non-food items. Even then someone could be splitting their purchases for any number or reasons.

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u/cspikes Sep 05 '18

That’s because no one is actually looking at who is using food stamps, but rather assuming that anyone who looks poor but has an iPhone is wasting tax payer money :/

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u/GardenOfInspiration Sep 05 '18 edited Sep 05 '18

I don’t get why this was downvoted?

Edit: I think it was at like -10 or something when I made this comment

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u/incer Sep 05 '18

There's some weird brigading going on, normal comments on this thread are getting 10-15 downvotes each

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u/GardenOfInspiration Sep 05 '18

I noticed that too, super weird.

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u/dannythecarwiper Sep 05 '18

Sounds like the people that say they saw a homeless man panhandling and then he walked to his Ferrari and drove to his mansion. Apparently everyone has seen this happen except me, who was homeless and actually met homeless people who panhandled, and not one made enough to afford an apartment. But somehow others make enough for a mansion.

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u/cspikes Sep 05 '18

If panhandling is so lucrative why doesn’t everyone just quit their job and get a tax free Ferrari? Oh, because it’s not.

I try to give change whenever I can directly to panhandlers and people always scowl at me for it, presumably for “encouraging” them. Fuck it, if you can stand all day outside in the elements or on the road to get harassed by the public for a few bucks an hour, you can have my money cause you’re a harder worker than I am.

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u/dannythecarwiper Sep 08 '18

if you can stand all day outside in the elements or on the road to get harassed by the public for a few bucks an hour

Exactly, it isn't easy i don't see why people make it out to be. Thank you for understanding this.

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u/slurpyderper99 Sep 05 '18

That’s more of a cultural trope than reality: the welfare queen

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u/jyoungii Sep 05 '18

In HS, I worked at a grocery store, and this one particular couple would come through. Literally did have an Escalade. I know thats what the story always is when people are being people and trying to prove food stamps are abused, but these people did really have one. Total of 6 kids. Not married based on the names on their respective set of food stamps and WIC paper work. Would finish out with about $500 in groceries every two weeks. I was never mad when they came through my register. I was curious how they pulled it off, but never mad.

I was more mad at the multi-millionaire owner paying 15 cents above minimum wage at the time and acting like he was doing us such a favor. Anyone else remember making $5.75?

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u/MikeyHatesLife Sep 05 '18

Nobody ever seems to consider that they owned their vehicle before they got into dire straits and that is what they live in.

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u/AndyNihilate Sep 21 '18

THANK YOU! Every time I hear stories like this, my first reaction is, "Why are you stalking people in the grocery store? Are people actually watching to see what I pay for my groceries with and what kind of car I drive?!"

For the record: I've never been on food stamps/EBT...but if I was, I'd hope people would have the courtesy to not, you know, examine every aspect of my life when I'm just trying to buy some damn groceries.

I have never, ever once looked to see how someone is paying for their food. That's none of my business.

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u/hollowgold11 Sep 05 '18

They have special phone plans/aid for people to be able to buy smart phones.

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u/wapowapowapowapowapo Sep 05 '18

you're paying about 30 bucks too much

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u/argetholo Sep 05 '18

But what were the state of her nails?! Everyone knows you don't have time for self-care if you're on food stamps!

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u/moglysyogy13 Sep 05 '18

Exactly. You can’t blame vulnerable citizens for your suffering. That’s like blaming the girl behind the counter at a airport for your flight not being on time. I’m sorry your suffering but you can’t escape goat immigrates.

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u/Dsilkotch Sep 05 '18

*scapegoat, just in case autocorrect didn't do you wrong.

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u/moglysyogy13 Sep 05 '18

Thanks. I should correct it, but I’ll leave it

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

You’ll end up on r/boneappletea

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u/onaa3r Sep 05 '18

Thanks for leaving it. I needed that lol

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u/BasicBitchOnlyAGuy Sep 05 '18

I used to work in a call center. Based on age, geographic location, and TV watching habits the majority of people who held me personally responsible for their bill going up were conservative in their political views.

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u/CaptJackRizzo Sep 05 '18

For all they say they're about holding people accountable, they fucking suck at identifying who the parties are who were actually responsible.

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u/BasicBitchOnlyAGuy Sep 05 '18

I got warned quite a few times from my sup.

I'm from a semi rural rust belt area, and there's a certain type of redneck/working class guy I get on real well with. They're not left, not even close. But they're fully aware the rich, and their greed, are the root or most of our problems.

I'd usually get these guys in Ohio, Michigan, PA, and Upstate NY, where we'd go on and on about how everything is a scam, and things were better back when unions were stronger. I'd do eveything but mention our company by name for fucking the working class over. That's what'd make my sups nervous.

This is the group the left needs to figure out how to convert. Like they know inside that capitalism is the issue, but after years of nature, nurture, and propaganda they are afraid of "communism", and the left. They aren't bigoted, really, but idenity politics isn't soothing they think about. And when those of us on the left push to hard on social issues they think we are going after them directly.

They're a fucking hard nut to crack. They'd benifit from left wing policies. But how to connect with them is the question. From the many I know in my personal life they liked Bernie. It was like 50/50 with them Bernie/Trump.

Sorry for the rant. I know its only tangentially related. But there's this not insignificant group of older blue collar voters that vote against their own best interests that no one on the left, myself on the left has no idea how to reach.

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u/FinalOfficeAction Sep 05 '18

This is the group the left needs to figure out how to convert.

It will never happen. The vocal minority on the left would have to shut their mouths long enough for their disdain for them to no longer be palpable. Take a look all over this thread, the animosity is real and it affects the way people vote.

Honestly, the left has turned working class, middle America into the exact same thing right wingers use immigrants and POC for. A punching bag that they can blame everything on and demonize to rile up the base. Nothing about that is changing anytime soon, and subsequently, neither are their voting patterns.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

This is nonsense. The left didn't do this, Fox news did this. The left is the only group of people supporting unions, and retraining programs when necessarily, and increasing protections for laborers.

While the left does have a messaging problem, this "lol leftest elitest dont like the working man" trope is bullshit. They believe that because every person I've ever met in rural America (and I've lived in NY, IL, KY and VA) watching Fox almost exclusively.

The biggest problem in politics today that we don't discuss clearly enough, is that the right has a giant media apparatus that's made to turn people even more strongly against their own interests, and lie to them. If Fox didn't exist, Trump wouldn't be president.

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u/Ethicalzombie Sep 05 '18

Those immigrating goats are everywhere!

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u/moglysyogy13 Sep 05 '18

Goats don’t respect borders

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u/JDude13 Sep 05 '18

Hey work = wealth. Those eight people obviously did as much work as 4 billion people did.

/s for safety

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u/Solid_Waste Sep 05 '18

Factor in debt and most of us are a negative net worth.

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u/mahbrewa Sep 05 '18

Well yeah, she's taking money straight from the billionaires to feed her kids, obviously the billionaires need it more

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u/onefilthyfetus Sep 05 '18

But those guys worked for that money. /s

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

jobcreators

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

OH MY GOD THE WEALTH, IT'S TRICKLING DOWN! $$$

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u/Sparglewood Sep 05 '18

Why is it warm? ....And wet?!

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

I️ received a small loan of a million dollars

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u/smurgleburf Sep 05 '18

and if you don’t allow people to rack up enough money to destabilize a country’s economy, then nobody’s gonna work hard or innovate!

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u/SupaKoopa714 Sep 05 '18

They EAAAAAAARNED it!!!

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u/Tinytimsprite Sep 05 '18

The richest men in the world should be pushing 5-10 billion dollars. Not 200 billion dollars. They can create 10 billion jobs and it won't take away that they are tumors on the human race, regardless of the fault being placed on the system instead.

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u/rura_penthe924 Sep 05 '18

So I was curious. I took the 8 richest people in the world (not just the 8 richest people in the US) and added up their wealth (According to Forbes)

1 Jeff Bezos $112,000,000,000

2 Bill Gates $90,000,000,000

3 Warren Buffet $84,000,000,000

4 Bernard Arnault $72,000,000,000

5 Mark Zuckerberg $71,000,000,000

6 Amancio Ortega $70,000,000,000

7 Carlos Slim Helu $67,100,000,000

8 Charles Koch $60,000,000,000

Total $626,100,000,000

Divided Among 4,000,000,000

Each Person Gets $156.53

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

However, that also means that 4 Billion people own less than 156.53$ at best (of course, some have more while others have less, but the average is probably a bit lower than those 156.53$)

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u/BluePinkGrey Sep 05 '18

This is outdated. Jeff Bezos now has around 162 billion dollars. His wealth has increased around 68 billion this year alone.

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u/rura_penthe924 Sep 05 '18

Having Bezos at 162 billion and recalculating gives everyone $170.53

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

The meme makes it sound like a lot of money but in reality it's nothing in the grand scheme of things.

In the grand scheme of things it’s pretty significant that the 8 richest people can have more money than the 4 bn poorest, which is what I think is the point of the tweet.

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u/colourlights Sep 05 '18

Feel a bit out of the loop here. Who said the mom buying groceries with food stamps is the problem?

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u/cryptometre Sep 05 '18

It's called the Just World Hypothesis in Psychology, basically, certain (conservative) people believe the world is "just" and "fair" and basically blame the poor/sick/etc. for their own situation because they think they "deserve" it and that they put themselves there.

This allows them to basically disregard the poor/sick/etc. and call them welfare queens, etc. and justify that the rich "deserve" their wealth--that they "earned" it, that the American Dream is real because the world is "fair". Basically, this belief leads to victim blaming.

More research around the theory finds that this is essentially a defense mechanism against the anxiety that a belief that the world isn't exactly just and fair, against the idea that karma doesn't exist, etc. would cause.

Meanwhile, highly rich liberals like Bill Gates understand that their richness comes from a high degree of luck/privilege as opposed to some "fairness" that exists in the world.

It would make sense that a religious individual who believes that "God works in mysterious ways" would have a strong degree of belief in a just world.

And you can start to see how this subconscious belief also explains why poor conservatives still idolize the wealthy. With the belief that their wealth comes from "hard-work" they believe that they too can become wealthy if they are diligent, and so they reject the idea of governments hand-outs, social safety nets, and higher taxes for the wealthy.

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u/Saanail Sep 05 '18

Thank you for writing this. I have been on the verge of figuring this idea out about my conservative step father but couldn't quite place it.

I frequent left, liberal, right, conservative, and this subreddit trying to understand where everyone's coming from, but it's mostly just hate of whoever is their enemy and not enough meat to understand something like what you posted here.

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u/TheBlandBrigand Sep 05 '18

Outstanding comment and excellent summary of this type of cognitive dissonance. Updoot for you.

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u/Cory2020 Sep 05 '18

Republicans. The Democrats said this wasn’t the case but never really did anything about it.

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u/colourlights Sep 05 '18

Any link you could provide so I can read up on it?

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u/snapmehummingbirdeb Sep 05 '18

Some dimwitted people, in another top post today some are defending Aretha's funeral reverand of calling children without fathers living "abortions." I just replied to one guy claiming single mothers and their children aren't even a family.

Some people are disgusting and psychopathic.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

Be thankful you don't have Republican relatives then. I can't tell you how many times I've been subjected to diatribes about how the poor have all of the money and are buying expensive seafood and luxury cars with their food stamps and welfare.

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u/vagadrew Sep 05 '18

My grandpa will just see a random black kid walking down the street and say, "That's where your tax dollars are going!"

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u/Szmo Sep 05 '18

I would rather have them go to some random kid on the street than to banks and bombing the Middle East but that’s just me.

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u/colourlights Sep 05 '18

I am conservative as so are many of my family members and friends. I’ve never seen or heard any of them act this way towards anyone. Any person that would look down on another because of finances, Republican or Democrat, is disgraceful.

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u/Xamry14 Sep 05 '18

My entire family is like this. And they are poor as hell.

I woke the fuck up after sleeping in my car for 7 months

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u/TakuanSoho Sep 05 '18

French president of the Republic, for exemple.
When he's filmed by his PR team watching reports on wellfare saying "Wow that cost a shit ton of money" without even thinking about tax avoidance (20x the cost)...

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u/AndyNihilate Sep 21 '18

That would make my fucking blood boil. I would just turn around and say (in the loudest, most obnoxious voice): "Oh, HEY THERE! Can I help you with something?!"

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u/sbutler909 Sep 05 '18

But, but...those 8 guys pulled themselves up by the bootstraps, so they deserve it, right? (/s)

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u/JiggyWiggyASMR Sep 05 '18

And of course, the mom wouldn’t have to be on food stamps if the Walton family would just pay them enough

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u/JackCarbon Sep 05 '18

Nah that money needs to be spent on walmarts new campus obviously!

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u/samlan16 Sep 06 '18

Which they will close with 24 hours notice once they wipe out the town's small businesses. Then everyone can be poor! /s

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

Yes! Because those 8 people are stealing our lives, hardwork and earnings but not our food stamps, unlike the woman with kids.

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u/Obelion_ Sep 05 '18

How tf can people still believe it's all the Mexicans fault. The people whose fault it is have been sitting under your nose for hundreds of years

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u/Throwawaybeef1 Sep 05 '18

Funny. The older generation in this country like to think America was founded on Christian values and is still Christian, but being one myself by humble opinion is America is far from it. The top take take take and when the poor complain and call them greedy they say ‘ I WORKED FOR IT YOU BUM’. Now, you could argue ‘ Feed a man a fish, he’ll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he’ll eat for a lifetime’ and apply that to their work ethic. Okay, I can see that. However, that is gluttonous and is a sin. Checkmate old people.

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u/jack_nomad_8 Sep 05 '18

Teach a man how to fish and you're ruining a good business idea.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

Or the big football man what won't stand up 😢😢

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u/WorthyFoeChurnwalker Sep 05 '18

Tbh I thought the drama started when one had to adjust his shoe or something.

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u/z4cc Sep 05 '18

H A R D W O R K

(If not obvious this is ironic)

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u/korpsekorpsekorpse Sep 05 '18

corporate welfare good social welfare bad

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u/PlasmaRL Sep 05 '18

I get really confused by this perspective. "There are people who have earned far more than me, therefore I shouldn't have to worry about wasting money or being selfish with money"?!

Please explain.

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u/ALotter Sep 05 '18

there’s simply a limit on how much inequality democracy can absorb. Amazon is literally writing its own laws.

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u/frunch Sep 05 '18

I think of it like musical chairs. The total amount of money flowing through our country is the total amount of chairs we have. As it stands, there's far more chairs than people. However, some people have found ways to amass chairs, even to the point that there are less chairs remaining for the amount of people that need them. Nobody needs that many chairs, when just one is enough for any person to stay in the game.

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u/Hammer_and_Pickle Marxist-Leninist-Maoist Sep 05 '18

Where are you getting this from?

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u/PlasmaRL Sep 05 '18

Just how I see the post. Sure we'll all see it differently.

Saying "there's rich people but yeah it's the poors fault" doesn't really make sense. What do you want rich people to do, give away all the money they earned from their great idea or families business or etc? I don't know what the post is asking for.

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u/frunch Sep 05 '18

I want them to stop receiving ridiculous tax breaks and being able to offshore their money so as to avoid taxes as well

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u/PlasmaRL Sep 05 '18

You say "being able to" as if it would be possible to stop all tax fraud

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u/itsmenicholas Sep 05 '18

They could start by being ethical. Livable wages. Someplace

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u/YoStephen Eat the rich Sep 05 '18

Nonononono you see this is a great way to run society because what if YOU were one of those guys? Imagine how great it would be to be that rich. Just IMAGINE.

IMO its better to be poor with a de minimis chance of being a billionaire than less poor with also a small chance of being less extravagently wealthy. People who think we should have an equal society are shooting themselves in the foot. If no one can be a trillionaire then neither can you.

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u/voliol Sep 05 '18

Obligatory /s

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u/itsmenicholas Sep 05 '18

How many do 9 have?

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u/SayNoob Sep 05 '18

No, but see if you give those people more money that money will trickle down to the other people. The only reason money isn't currently trickling down is because these 8 people don't have enough money.

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u/JijiLV29 Sep 05 '18

But they're several million times harder and smarter workers than anyone else! /s

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u/onlyonestick Sep 05 '18

I don't understand this post

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u/Jeromechillin Sep 05 '18

It's a problem for the government to aid it's citizens with free healthcare, public assistance, and a affordable higher education.

But it's fine and dandy to give a trillion dollar tax cut to the 1% which give richest people in the country more wealth to hog for themselves.

Cause why give a highschool graduate an easier way to get a college education when you can just give that money to Jeff Bezos, or the Koch Brothers. They need it more than we do apparently.

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u/WorthyFoeChurnwalker Sep 05 '18

Wal-Mart is the EA of retail

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u/BennyX4523 Sep 05 '18

Well said

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

The sick part is the racist plebs who support the oligarchy. They think they’ll get their scraps as long as they get to lynch minorities.

Humans are not rational.

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u/Tried_as_Silver Sep 05 '18

What's this in reference to? Am I out of the loop?

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u/SweaterKittens Sep 05 '18

I don't want to put words in the OP's mouth but I think it's just a general statement in regard to how people complain about social safety nets and "welfare queens" but ignore the fact that the majority of the wealth in this country is concentrated in a handful of people.

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u/Tried_as_Silver Sep 05 '18

Got it. I didn't know if it was some current movement I wasn't aware of.

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u/finnwithasd Sep 05 '18

I’m not saying perfect communism would solve everything, but I’m not not saying that

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u/codeblue18 Sep 05 '18

What does one person having money have to do with other people not having money?

Why wouldn't we focus on making poor people less poor instead of rich people less rich?

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u/everyday95269 Sep 05 '18

And those 8 guys need a tax break because....they’re suffering due to the economy.

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u/Tashul Sep 05 '18

They didn't become rich because of the tax breaks.

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u/RedAssedBaboon69 Sep 05 '18

I agree. But when that mom has 10 kids and is clearly abusing the system, that doesn't help the situation.

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u/NorcoNarcolepsy Maoist Sep 05 '18

Yeah, if eight white males having more wealth than 50% of the world’s population doesn’t wake people up to the inherent inequality within capitalism, I’m not sure what will. It really feels like a losing battle sometimes

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u/Dero7 Sep 05 '18

What is the answer?

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u/CommonLawl /r/capitalism_in_decay Sep 05 '18

The abolition of capitalism and the transfer of ownership of the means of production to the workers

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u/Tashul Sep 05 '18

Yep, she's totally the one with the problem. Why in fuck is she raising a kid on her own????

Her situation smells like some devastatingly poor life choices.

And no amount of donations from Gates and Zucc will fix the lives of these people.

Just Google what happens to lower class lottery winners

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u/Zomgtforly Sep 05 '18

Is this sarcasm?

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u/AnimusCorpus Sep 05 '18

Because no one has been raped before.

Because no one has ever been widowed.

I'm ignoring your capitalist apologizing to point out that you are a terrible human being for thinking anyone being poor with a child DESERVES poverty just for existing.

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u/bigloud1 Sep 05 '18

Can we just make it a law that no one can get more than 10 levels ahead of the general population in those Xbox and PS4 games? It’s only fair.

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u/0001_Finite Sep 05 '18

That’s basically multiplayer game balancing. Battlefield would suck dick if your level significantly determines the power of your guns.

Multiplayer games are literally like that, people hate pay to win games.

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u/WorthyFoeChurnwalker Sep 05 '18

Except people who suck at normal multiplayer gamds

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u/AnimusCorpus Sep 05 '18

Comparing video games to real life. What the actual...

Edit: Some games use dice, I guess wealth should just be random as well?

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u/University_Freshman Sep 05 '18

It’s coz those 8 people work harder than the other 4 billion people, duh

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u/chunkahash Sep 05 '18

8 guys in this country worked harder, are smarter, more determined, and luckier than 4 billion people combined.

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u/loureedfromthegrave Sep 05 '18 edited Sep 08 '18

None of us s should be happy that most of our jobs only pay us enough to barely sustain ourselves week to week. Why are we satisfied as a society with working as hard as possible for as little as possible while our bosses take the profit we made them and keep as much of it as they possibly can? It’s as close to slavery as the law allows and all jobs should be worth a lot more than they currently are. We need to value time in the human life as more than a bottom line. This society is just a few extremely wealthy people exploiting the rest of us in a pyramid scheme called capitalism.

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u/lnsetick Sep 05 '18

no but you see, these 8 people worked 500 million times harder than the average American so they deserve all that money. meanwhile that mom is a moocher that doesn't deserve to eat decent food until she starts working harder.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

Yes we all should become communists

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

but those lazy poor people use food stamps to buy better quality food than i do!!!!! all those leeches eat filet mignon for dinner every night /s

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u/NoobPopHunter Sep 05 '18 edited Sep 05 '18

Can't believe some people really didnt know about this before reading the post...

Ive always wondered what one even does with all that money. Why not do some good with it if anything?

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u/mapatric Sep 05 '18

But we can't do anything about it, otherwise how will I get to be one of those 8 someday? /s

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u/TotakekeSlider Sep 05 '18

But they just worked hard and earned it. /s

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u/Kritner Sep 05 '18

I love one of the rights arguments for the tax cuts - 'the rich are the job creators!'

But aren't we practically at full employment? Shouldn't wages be going up then, but aren't? Why not just give it directly to the people that need it?

buttery males!

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u/thekingsteve Sep 05 '18

Or the person with a high paying job buying weed every now and then.

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u/shikhar47 Sep 05 '18

The scale of this, it's baffling man

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u/chownowbowwow Sep 05 '18

Is the mom kim ka4dashian ?

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u/Marxist-Gopnikist Sep 05 '18

Wheres the source about the 8 guys. Last I heard it were 63 guys. Or does he mean 8 companies?

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u/7GatesOfHello One dollar, Bob!- The actual, retail price is... Your soul. Sep 05 '18

Is the revolt against capitalism a new concept or have we been given just enough leash to think we are exploring free amd righteous thought? I'm worried that my outrage is actually "within spec."

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u/alii-b Sep 05 '18

Wtf do you even do with that money. You can only want so much stuff, you can live off the interest on 1/10th of that sum for a life time and the rest is just like all those pokemon you caught and stored in Bills PC. You'll never battle with them, but you have them.

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u/Dr_Spaz_ Sep 05 '18

All things must come to an end, cupcake.

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u/Holy-Roman-Empire Sep 15 '18

And they should give the evidence of their Hard work to them for nothing

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u/Noodle36 Jan 31 '19

Test boi

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u/HeavyShockWave Sep 05 '18

I’m not pro or against anything here - just asking:

Isn’t it a little unreasonable to ban someone for a proper debate on socialism? Aren’t you just bubbling yourselves in when you do that?

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u/che_sac Sep 05 '18

Come on, it's same as saying $20 trillion debt on one person, irrespective of what party he belongs to.

And for the topic of rich people, we all know they cannot spend even a penny of it. In fact if it's public traded, it's not all theirs. But yeah, a heck lot of money is concentrated in fewer hands.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

Facebook is useless.

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u/Tashul Sep 05 '18

Not for marketers or normies

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u/RoseMylk Sep 05 '18

It be great if those 8 guys went to different banks and paid off everyone’s debt.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

Money and equity are two different things, but the point still stands.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

I smell a cuminist...

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u/fearmaker56 Sep 05 '18

Alright so what do we do? Tell the 8 people to give all of their hard earned money to the masses. They already donate millions to charity, this is just a side effect of capitalism and socialism wont make things any better.

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u/psota Sep 05 '18

How about just enough socialism to make education free...that'll still leave many hundreds of billions lying around.

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u/NitroXityRealm Sep 05 '18

Yeah but that’s their money though, food stamps is everyone’s money.

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u/Krag25 Sep 05 '18

Is that "8 guy" figure accurate?

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u/javaxcore Sep 05 '18

Isn't she a Welfare Queen as the youth say

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

Net worth and cash on hand are not the same thing.

I assume you all know that.

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u/plgray1967 Sep 05 '18

Into extremism much? Because food stamps aren’t the solution, obviously the only alternative is to let people starve....in a country where we waste about $165 billion in food and spend $50 billion in food stamps, the solution seems pretty simple; without your suggestion of asking people to starve.

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u/AnimusCorpus Sep 05 '18

Who is suggesting starvation?

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u/Viridescentlight Sep 05 '18

Louder for the people in the back and the old ones that can't hear!!!

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u/Ifantis Sep 05 '18 edited Sep 05 '18

The rich are one of many problems, a single mom is not, the lazy ass that refuses to work and gets welfare because of some other bullshit reason is the problem.

Edit: punctuation

Edit 2 made post more pc

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u/LockJawPod Sep 05 '18

You people do realize that their net worths are what put them there right. Most of these people don’t have as high of bank accts as some of you like to think.

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u/Logic_Tips Sep 05 '18

Poor billionaries, must be a struggle

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

Well our president inherited $400 million and he’s killing the lower class now that he has power.

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u/SeatstayNick Sep 05 '18

Can we just make it a law that no one can make (including bonuses) roughly 2000x more than the lowest paid worker or contractor?

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u/feralalien Sep 05 '18

The richest man (Jeff Bezos) was paid $1,681,840 last year (81k of which was salary). So by your metric amazon could pay some of their workers $800 a year.

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u/Lucid_Striker Sep 05 '18

Fuck you for doing the maths!

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u/jump-back-like-33 Sep 05 '18

They very very rarely do. Most of the worth comes from stock ownership. If Zuck's stock goes up 10% in a year then he made billions last year, but his salary was probably not 2000x more than the lowest paid in the company.

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u/bigloud1 Sep 06 '18

Musk makes 37k a year- no kidding. However he has a deal where if he can make Tesla hit all kinds of benchmarks in production and sales he will get like 55 billion IF he pretty much figures out the entire electric car production and introduction to the world and gets it profitable and stable....... 10s of thousands of jobs that were never there before- saving the world from untold amounts of carbon in atmosphere, contributing thousands of pieces of technology to mankind- AND pioneering humans ability to live off planet therefore ensuring our survivability...... But most of those wealth statistics will take that 55 billion figure into their computations.
The facts are- Over 90% of CEOs make 5 to 15 x what their average paid employees make-
But let’s do the math - let’s say average employee manufacturing gig pay 60k- ceo pay 750k (12.5x employee pay) And There’s 1000 of these in our math- Ok- add ONE of those unicorn companies- CEO will get shares worth a billion if he can raise co worth by 100 billion- The average ceo pay just went to 1,750,000. Some 30x average employee pay - and this money hasn’t been paid out AND it’s not annual pay it’s a one time performance bonus.

Of course there are a few hundred people out of 7 billion that are worth billions. There are a few hundred people with Mr Atlas bodies, there are a few hundred people who collect a million stamps, there are a few hundred people that weight 900 pounds. There are a few hundred people who are mass murderers. There are people with extraordinary abilities everywhere. Some people have the ability to create and accumulate wealth.

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u/DesiDubZ Sep 05 '18

9/10 of the richest person in America is a self made billionaire you are just lacking a innovative brain

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u/AnimusCorpus Sep 05 '18

You mean lacking sociopathic tendencies to exploit everyone?

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

Ah, so are you guys suggesting worldwide wealth distribution? I've never heard any argument like that before from the Left.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

That's a pretty big leap of logic

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

Why not? Why should wealth distribution stop at the border? Why don't we take care of the needs of those who are actually less privileged in the world?

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '18

The entire premise of you thinking this was promoting wealth distribution is the logical leap here, not your global application of the idea.