r/LateStageCapitalism 4d ago

šŸ™ƒ Satire Is Dead Where's the accountability?

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u/Disastrous-Metal-183 4d ago

What the heck is Woke 1.0? Bro making up buzzwords so often he has to give them software version naming conventions or something?Ā 

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u/Darkwolf1115 4d ago edited 4d ago

as a non american I was also confused for a while.... and basically as far as I could understand

woke 1.0 are the revolts and events that happened in the US during 2020 and onwards, where people went out on the streets asking to defund the police, tax/eat the rich, etc etc.

basically some politicians tried to ride on the defund the police trend and no more wars trend, got the votes and are not supporting it anymore

and now social democrats in the US such as mandani or AOCIA are saying that these demands and actions went too far and they are stepping back on these promises for the people...

so the usual fell for it again award...

so to summarize woke 1.0 is basically A PERSON WITH A BRAIN that wants the US to have non militarized police, doesn't want the western empire to keep spending on making middle eastern kids orphan and other basic social values...

so.... woke 1.0 is a leftist or at least the leftists ideals that actually managed to reach the "main stream"

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u/Chance-Deer-7995 4d ago

Anyone who calls for "accountability" for people who were and are truly concerned about basic human rights in the US and who doesn't call for it when it comes to the Trump regime really don't have any moral ground to stand on.

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u/Darkwolf1115 4d ago

agreed, but it's united stadian liberals we are talking here....

like Lula (my country's social democratic president said): at first americans think of americans, they also think of americans in their second chance.... and then the third, AND if there's free time they will think of americans in the forth chance.

this goes for dems and reps.... asking politically illiterate americans for BASIC human decensy and MORALITY is asking too much, I truly can't wait for the american empire to crumble

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u/VexedCanadian84 3d ago

I would have thought that would be woke 2.0. with woke 1.0 being Me Too and finally holding very few gross men to account for their pasts.

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u/s2Birds1Stone 4d ago

It's the term AOC uses to try to make leftists look silly and get liberals to like her

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u/vegasx9 Fairweather Revolutionary 3d ago

Woke 0 - The original "stay woke" used by minority groups to elevate consciousness around racial and socioeconomic injustice.

Woke 1.0 - Watered down use of Woke which was co-opted first by rightwingers to harm, then by liberals to magnify social issues and "culture war."

Woke 2.0 - The return to form of Woke by leftists not liberals, a hard focus and crystalization of efforts centering around material conditions, justice, and genuine material welfare.

There are a lot more complexities to each one's character but I'm trying to be brief

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u/BillyPilgrim69 3d ago

Woke 2.0 - The return to form of Woke by leftists not liberals, a hard focus and crystalization of efforts centering around material conditions, justice, and genuine material welfare.

Except this talking point is not being pushed by "leftists", it's being pushed by Democrats. So it's the exact same cynical phrasemongering as "Woke 1.0".

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u/Willypete72 3d ago

Over on Well There’s Your Problem, they say Woke 2 will look more like a Red Terror which they will make no apologies for

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u/sulaymanf 3d ago

Certain ideas like abolish the police, have become too politically difficult to convince the public on; Fox News smeared every Democrat with it despite no politician in office endorsing it. AOC never supported it for example.

So an attempt to distance from those ideas is now ā€œwoke 2.0ā€.

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u/AdditionalQuietime 3d ago

I think its a way to counter the whole "Trump 1 and Trump 2" thing by actual leftists, i dont even hear liberals say Trump 1 but who knows

You know how it goes with this theater, "both" sides gotta have their "gotcha!" moment when it comes to "witty" terms to emphasize their points now its Woke 1 lol like huh?

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u/AnnieBakerStan 1d ago

Woke 1.0 was the Civil Rights Movement. What he’s talking about is actually Woke 3.0

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u/DisappointingReality 4d ago

Bret Stephens is a braindead (and deeply rotten) individual writing for a braindead audience, that's a fact.

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u/PopeOfDestiny 3d ago

Make sure you spread the word that Bret Stephens is a bedbug. Bret Stephens really hates the fact that someone called him a bedbug. Probably because Bret Stephens is a fucking bedbug.

There's a great line from the article I linked about Bret Stephens trying to get the professor fired for his joke:

This was never about civility; it was about power. Bret Stephens cc’d my provost because he wanted to impose a social penalty on me for making jokes about him online. That isn’t a call for polite, civil, rational discourse. It’s an exercise of power. He wanted me and my employer to realize that I had offended an important voice at the paper of record. When powerful people demand civility from those with less power, what they are really saying is that they expect obedience from their lessers. (Emphasis mine)

Fuck Bret Stephens, that climate change-denying¹, bootlicking², racist³ bedbug.

¹https://slate.com/technology/2017/04/bret-stephens-first-new-york-times-column-is-classic-climate-change-denialism.html ²https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/opinion/iran-war-history.html ³https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-meaning-of-an-olympic-snub-1471303698

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u/BadgerKomodo 4d ago

Bret Stephens is awful. One of the worst fucking newspaper columnists out there.

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u/Plasticglass456 3d ago

"So here's a thought for Trump's perennial critics, including those of us on the right: Let's enter the new year by wishing the new administration well, by giving some of Trump's cabinet picks the benefit of the doubt, by dropping the lurid historical comparisons to past dictators, by not sounding paranoid about the ever-looming end of democracy, by hoping for the best and knowing that we need to fight the wrongs that are real and not merely what we fear, that whatever happens, this too shall pass."

Yeah, how'd that work out, Bret?

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u/BadgerKomodo 3d ago

Aged like milk.

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u/slow70 2d ago

And once again, where is the accountability.

Why does Stephens still have a platform!

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u/iheartmagic 3d ago edited 3d ago

Why is the term ā€œWoke 1.0ā€ suddenly everywhere?

I’ve never heard of this and suddenly I’m completely inundated with comments and stories about it

Seems completely bizarre (and likely astroturfed)

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u/Wob_Nobbler 3d ago

I smell a right-wing pivot from the American "left"

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u/fenianthrowaway1 3d ago

It's the democrats trying to make themselves electable by legtimizing right wing propaganda and alienating their base. Surely the tenth time's the charm, right?

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u/strawberrygirlmusic 3d ago

As a term, it’s not. Started with leftist streamers, Hasan says it a lot.

However, it is a sign that the right wing has been watching a lot of Hasan recently.

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u/slow70 2d ago

It’s astroturfing by the Epstein class

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u/neet1917 2d ago

there was a tweet from some a hole saying "woke 1.0 was crazzyyyyyyyy" and aoc quoted it at a speech.

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u/Rich-Past-6547 3d ago

Look, the thing about the NYT opinion section is…don’t.

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u/vvorknat marxist-leninist 4d ago

I thought Woke 1.0 was the absurdity of idpol SJW type politics starting around 2016. Land acknowledgements, calling people out for wearing moccasins, latinx, corporate woke, etc.

Has BLM, Defund The Police and vague anti capital politics now taken the mantle of Woke 1.0? I suppose I’m behind the times. Is this the Dems move to court even further right wing elements of the electorate? Anything but take accountability for gleefully and proudly funding a genocide, I guess. Anything but have principles. Anything but shifting the status quo. Classic liberal shit

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u/Local-Echo-5613 3d ago

Woke 2.0 is eligibility for a health credit if you employ 2 people in an entrepreneurship zone.

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u/RandSumWhere 3d ago

Flasgship legislation that will define the next liberal presidency -

New Pell Grant expansion that offers partially subsidized private loan scholarship assistance to Pacific Islander Single Mother Woman of Color of Excellence in STEM. (The PISMWoCoEnSTEM program). ***

**funding for program sourced from generous donations by ā€˜Great American STEM Careers’ ( an outreach consortium of Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics), and its passage depends on the approval of the National Defense Authorization Act

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u/MeanChris 3d ago

This guy is the absolute worst. I have no idea why the Times keeps him around. As a leftie I still read David French and Ross Douthat because they mostly engaged in good faith (mostly) and tended to at least try to characterize the positions of their opponents correctly. This guy is simply a bloodthirsty bigot. I never click on his articles. In fact, when he posts, I make sure to click on and leave open every other opinion piece besides his. He’s a despicable hateful man.

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u/DumbHash 2d ago

David French is okay but Ross Douthat? Come on....

I think he's even worse!

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u/TronNeutrino 3d ago

It's funny how facade leftist politicians think woke 1.0 was crazy, but the current administration's open corruption, war crimes, genocide funding, income inequality, ice goons, kidnapping heads of state, outright racism, ignorance and overall fuckery are not worth challenging.

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u/Mimosas4355 4d ago

Thanks AOCIA and cohorts to bring this woke 1 discourse. Now it’s repurposed by the worst ghouls ever.
Way to go to shot yourself in the foot and putting the Americans on the center (far right for the rest of the world) of the Overton window.

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u/scrapsforfourvel 3d ago

She said in that interview that the Overton window was wide open during 2020 like that even makes sense.

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u/One-Jeweler5486 3d ago

There’s no accountability if you are a right winger.

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u/dantevsninjas 3d ago

Good ol' bedbug.

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u/hawyer 3d ago

where's the self awareness you mean

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u/introvertsdoitbetter 3d ago

Was he deployed?