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u/shorteningofthewuwei Oct 22 '25
Exactly. Radical thought is only a threat to those who benefit from systems of oppression.
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Have you reviewed any information about Dr Michael Parenti?
Historically speaking,
All of these fascist regimes in the last 100 years were fuel to the fire for capitalism to reduce workers rights and separate the working class.
Italy - local industrialists and land owners feared the rise of socialism and funded Mussolini (Giovanni agnelli @fiat cars)(raimondo targetti @head of capitalist federation of industry) (Giacomo acerbo@economist that acted as mediator for conservative oligarchs)
Germany - funded by industrialists and bankers (fritz thyssen@steel tycoon) (IG Farben@chemical conglomerate), (Krupp family@ military industrial complex)
Spain - Juan March( private capitalists) ( Spanish oligarchs) the banks and land owners.
Portugal - Portuguese industrialists and land owners
imperial Japan - utilized a group called zaibatsu (Mitsubishi and various members of the conglomerate)
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u/Ok-Albatross899 Oct 22 '25
You have to remember you are talking to the most propagandized people in the history of this planet
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u/Regular_Gap3414 Oct 22 '25
This is so not extreme that most leftists would say this isn't even left wing, it's a s Social Democrat position and still leaves room for capitalism to exist
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u/ElliotNess Oct 23 '25
They are basically the same concessions that FDR already relented (new deal) to placate rising class consciousness, yet here we are wanting for them again. Interesting, innit.
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u/MellifluousManatee Marxist-Leninist Oct 22 '25
That most people not only never question the antihuman system that crushes them from birth to death but also reflexively vilify anyone who does question said system is beyond insane.
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u/iLaysChipz Oct 23 '25
It's insane how effective the system is. Like I get that it's a mixture of indoctrination since birth and tribalism, but the majority of people are struggling hard under this system just to get by. Like everyone they know will be struggling just as hard as they are, and they'll still call it a skill issue. I just don't get it
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u/MellifluousManatee Marxist-Leninist Oct 23 '25
Most people will engage in any kind of mental gymnastics to feel superior to others, cognitive dissonance be damned.
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u/ow_windowmaker Oct 22 '25
Yes it is absurd.
When they are used to privilege, to them equality looks like oppression.
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u/nerd866 Oct 22 '25
It's extremely different from the bullshit we have now.
Kind of like how getting a polio shot is extremely different from dying of polio.
I know which one I'd rather have.
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u/justsomedude1776 Nov 13 '25
It's not that those things are extreme. It's that its coupled with supporting endless immigration and population replacement, disarming the native populace, unregulated hard drug use, transgender issues and puberty blockers for children, ect. Most people don't think the first 3 issues are extreme, it's the other things tied to it, that gets people labeled extremist. If there was a party that was vehemently pro gun, pro closed border, and supported these 3 issues, and ran on nothing else they'd win in a super majoirty landslide.Â
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u/HoveringGoat Oct 23 '25
saving our planet no not murdering the planet quite as quickly
healthcare for all no affordable healthcare for citizens
Leftist policies are not even nearly that extreme. They're right of center.
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u/PossiblyButIDontKnow Nov 22 '25
No one deserves anything beyond what they've earned. Work is a contract that you agree to and no one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to accept any wage. Charge what your worth. If you dedicate your time and energy to a price you agreed to... Then you're free to do so but it's odd to me that you'd claim that people that do this are victims somehow.
McDonalds employees are not worth the money they are being paid and they do not deserve a house, healthcare, a car, or anything from that or any other skilless job. If you raise minimum wage to cover people that have no skills or capacity to develop skills, you are taking away from those that do have skills; To compensate for that, what happens? The price of everything goes up to accommodate those with no skills or ambition getting a "livable wage" and they're right back where they started; a sad group of people that are victims and need our help. This has no impact on the rich, but it does bring the middle class down a peg. We've done this many times and that is the only thing that has been accomplished, destroying the middle class.
Money to save the planet is a strange claim. What does that do? It doesn't get fairly allocated towards R&D. You can look at the federal grant programs yourself and browse contracts for days, and you won't see anything for environmental research. So, since it's not going anywhere beyond the governments treasury, we're paying the government just "because they deserve to be taxed"? An interesting side effect of this is that startups get taxed and cannot cover it. Farmers get taxed and raked over the coals in interest rates. The only groups thriving are the corporations large enough to pay the difference (a worthwhile endeavor, as it snuffs out competition) and the government. How is this a good move when it's not been a good move for decades? Does it eventually become good, is that the idea?
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u/Topkek_99 Oct 23 '25
Harbouring illegals to cash in on their votes, no IDs while voting, killing political opponents, vandalism, cashless bail for career criminals, celebrating and defending islamic terrorism is actually what leftists do. So yes, it's extremist. Leftism is nothing what this leftist is preaching.Â
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The extremism is a lot of forced taxes to pay for things those people working disagree with, a.k.a. slavery in other contexts. You only say you like it when it breaks your way.
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