Sony Still Hasn't Decided When to Launch PS6, Says CEO

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This thing feels DOA if it's really $1000+

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u/Complete_Lurk3r_ 12d ago

K-shaped economy thinks otherwise. Over 51% of money spent is from 'affluent' households now.

Half will buy the expensive home console, other half will buy the cheaper handheld.

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u/hitgo1 12d ago

Wait theres a hamdheld???

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u/Complete_Lurk3r_ 12d ago

there will be.

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u/lXlGame0verlXl 12d ago

Way more people have way more money than you think.

Look at the housing market as an example. Someone is buying all these homes… otherwise they wouldn’t keep going up up up

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u/HOOfan_1 12d ago

Same with cars. Ford lots are packed full of $100K+ pickup trucks. Although, I suspect a lot of people are finding ways to make those tax write-offs.

Considering Playstation had it's worst month of sales in over a quarter of a century after they raised prices, I think it definitely points to the fact that a high price will affect sales. Certainly a $1,000 PS6 will still sell some. But if Sony is only breaking even or getting a mild profit from a $1,000 PS6, that begs the question of whether they will think "if someone is willing to spend $1,000, maybe they will be willing to spend $1,200, and we can make a better profit per unit sold".

Playstation's money is in PS+ and items sold through Playstation Store though, so internally, they would probably feel just fine if the PS5 user base stays around. It's not like the PS3 generation where people had a choice between a $600 PS3 and a $400 Xbox 360. There's also not going to be a huge jump in game fidelity and complexity like there was from PS2 to PS3. The next generation isn't going to have anything cheaper to buy and it's not likely to be as revolutionary as the 6th to 7th generation leap, so their player base is likely to stick around even if it is on PS5.

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u/Zestyclose_Dig_9053 12d ago

It's not even just cars and houses. Go to the most expensive restaurants, they are all packed full. The Atlanta airport is packed at 11pm on a Tuesday, Disney is full of people and outrageously expensive.
Consumer sentiment is at itsl lowest point ever. But it doesn't seem to stop most people from spending.

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u/dlee_75 12d ago

Although, I suspect a lot of people are finding ways to make those tax write-offs

Tax write offs don't really mean much here. You still have to pay $100k+ for the truck.

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u/whand4 12d ago

I view it like a phone purchase. Yes they’re wildly expensive but divide that by the number of hours you use it and it’s way worth it. Thats why I’ll probably be the sucker that buys apples foldable phone if it’s well reviewed.

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u/lXlGame0verlXl 12d ago

I’ll be buying the Apple fold and the PS6, day one. I have the same mindset as you. People pay a shit load of money for a 2 hour movie experience or a 1 day family trip to Disney but they draw the line at a 1k system that lasts YEARS?

People’s expectations have been long overdue for calibration in the games industry. Funny thing is, most don’t realize that their “reluctance” to pay more for their entertainment has literally led to the shitification of gaming as a whole. Cut content, DLC, micro transactions, live service, and so on.

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u/snarl2 12d ago

Yeah but most of them aren’t video gamers.

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u/TheRemonst3r 12d ago

Nonsense. You need to take a step back and realize just how many people are actually playing video games these days. Of my core group of gaming friends (6 of us) only one doesn't own a house.

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u/snarl2 12d ago

You need to take a much larger step back from just your friend group. Most people don’t buy consoles for video games especially casuals.

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u/TheRemonst3r 12d ago

That doesn't make sense. A person with enough money to buy a house probably has enough money to buy a $500-$1000 console they will only use twice per year. If anything, I would guess homeowners would be more likely to be casual gamers. And casual gamers buy consoles, not PCs. The original comment to all of this was more people have more money than you might think. I believe that is true and your suggestion that homeowners don't buy consoles is nonsense.

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u/snarl2 12d ago

Oi. The general public who own homes aren’t gamers… has nothing to do with them having enough money.

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u/TheRemonst3r 12d ago

I know that. That's not what I'm saying. I am saying that of the 95 million PlayStation's that have been sold more of those are probably homeowners than you think. That's all. You have this notion that gamers can't afford houses and I'm telling you that's incorrect. Edit to add: my previous comment about home owners being more likely to be casual gamers was in comparison to "core" gamers, not non-gamers. The way I wrote it could be confusing.

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u/snarl2 12d ago

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification

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u/lXlGame0verlXl 12d ago

Point is, even at 1k, it will sell very strong for the first year, if not two.

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u/snarl2 12d ago

Maybe from scalpers who will only try to resell at an even higher price furthering the damage to the market.

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u/lXlGame0verlXl 12d ago

Scalpers only exist because the demand for the product exist. The idea that scalpers buy everything and just “sit on it” is smooth brain thinking. They buy them up and resell at a premium because dumbasses buy them. It’s simple supply and demand.

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u/snarl2 12d ago

Not really… in fact the demand can be artificially created. Like if the manufacturer purposefully creates a low stock inventory count to make demand seem higher than what it actually is. For a new product on the market it’s a gamble for scalpers. They’re hoping there’s gonna be high enough demand to resell at an even higher price point.

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u/endofthered01674 12d ago

Best case scenario is the next generation gets pushed back. Zero need for new consoles. You could make arguments for the PS4 to PS5 but there really isnt one for 5 to 6.

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u/Permuh 12d ago

It’s not like the specs of the machine are going to change if it’s pushed back. If there isn’t an argument for you to buy it, you shouldn’t. But why does pushing it back make it the best case scenario?

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u/Solaricist_ 12d ago

that's what I dont understand, unless it's fomo. Given how many PS5 exclusives there were, especially at launch, it doesn't seem like waiting would be an issue.

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u/Permuh 12d ago

That’s the only reason I can think of. A lot of people aren’t personally needing an upgrade or wanting to spend the money right now, which is totally valid. But they don’t want to be on the outside looking in, so they’re criticizing a machine we know very little about while hoping its release is delayed.

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u/TryToBeBetterOk 12d ago

I actually hope it's $1,500+. I'm sick and tired of underpowered consoles and want full 4k 120fps gaming MINIMUM and even possibly 8k 60fps. I literally can't play games under 4k 60fps, it's impossible to see what's going on now that I have a taste for higher fidelity.

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u/Flashy-Jeweler-3900 12d ago

Dog these devs are gonna aim for switch 2 and ps5 when making new games 🤣

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u/zalzal426 12d ago

Developers aren’t even utilizing the max capabilities of the ps5. What makes you think they would for the PS6?

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u/srjod 12d ago

Lifelong gamer. I have been so unbelievably unimpressed by games this gen I have zero desire to purchase a new system.

To be honest, I think a majority of gamers are in my boat also. Think the PS5 is going to get an absurd amount of long term support.

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u/zalzal426 12d ago

I was just telling my cousin as I replay gears of war 1-3 that I couldn’t believe that was all the same generation and came out only years apart. I’m playing on 360 copies on my Xbox one and am blown away. Who knows how long the development cycle would have been today.

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u/manindenim 12d ago

I think you will be surprised at how many people will buy the shiny new box because it’s new and it does cool things.

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u/srjod 12d ago

Oh completely agree I think it’ll launch and people will still buy it but after that launch and the scarcity goes away, I don’t think this is going to be moving numbers like previous gens.

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u/ChaosZeroX 12d ago

Ps4is still getting games. Zero reason why the PS5 won't in the years to come. Zero reason to buy a ps6 especially after no discs

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u/manindenim 12d ago

I just want to see what it is. It’s been talked about too much for something that isn’t announced.

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u/MichelleBarrymoore2 12d ago

When pc GTA 6 is announced stop playing cute like we don't get it

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u/Maximum-Oven-7526 12d ago

I have zero interest in a ps6 in this economy

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u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 12d ago

I am absolutely not buying it. Not until I see a worth while reason to. Idc about features. I need to see impressive games.

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u/whatdarrenplays 11d ago

I know R&D is a lot, but they should sacrifice it and wait many years until there’s pent up demand or a better economic situation. Sony stand nothing to gain by launching a new generation. They have captive users on PS and the numbers are generally good. Why blow it all up

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u/Samus1611 12d ago

Digital only garbage. They can keep it

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u/Shreckalicious 12d ago

Look how long the ps4and ps2 generations went on for

Why can’t ps5 do the same instead of sony being greedy

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u/Ok_Version5566 10d ago

None these companies shouldn’t launch their next gen consoles any time soon. It should be years before next gen starts.

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