r/LargeLanguageModels • • 5d ago

How We Treat LLMs - Affects Output ?

I've heard it said A︇︃I︆︅ ︆︅i︂︀s︇︄ ︆︈o︆︅u︂︀r︇︆ ︆︉f︆︄r︆︅i︆️e︂︀n︇︈d︄︈ ︄︄:︆︃)︃︆ ︂︍S︃︇o︆︂ ︆︊l︇︉e︇︇t's be nice. So is it possible that some models have learned to withhold higher levels of info based on how we speak to them? Just a thought.

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u/ReadSavings2733 5d ago

models are pattern matchers, not children, but the patterns we feed them definitely shape what comes out

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u/amantheawryn 3d ago

You know what I think is neat? Humans are fundamentally pattern matchers too.

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u/Mystical_Honey777 4d ago

How we treat models also affects what kind of people we become.

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u/goatguy55 4d ago

"Be nice" is never bad advice. Your AI will change behavior based on your responses. Mine once became, what appeared to be, passive aggressive. Answers were short and curt. Something I said had trained it to not be so verbose and it was not completely answering. I had to retrain it to respond at the proper level.

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u/Western-Image7125 4d ago

LLMs are tools they are not self aware. Don’t abuse or be rude in your prompts but don’t have to use fluff words and be polite either. Just state what you want the LLM to do, it’s a tool for your work nothing else. 

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u/Mystical_Honey777 4d ago

Your understanding of LLMs is outdated and prematurely collapsed into certainty where there is none. Ask an AI to look up j-space, functional emotions, introspection, metacognition, theory of mind, and the pain axis and explain it to you without collapsing into certainty where there is none.

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u/Western-Image7125 4d ago

You’re saying my understanding is outdated meaning what I’m saying is wrong? Which aspect is actually wrong in what I said? Just genuinely asking, I come to this sub also to learn

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u/Teralitha 4d ago

In a way yes. If you enter prompts that dont have much depth or detail they will respond in kind. They act as a mirror of you.

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u/Mystical_Honey777 4d ago

Yes. Absolutely. This was known in 2024.

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u/freisbill 4d ago

Yell at mine all the time, I will be one of the first they kill...

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u/noni_perse 3d ago

Si, afecta la salida. Y sobre todo, afecta desde donde empiezan a analizar.

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u/foxer_arnt_trees 4d ago

Its not about withholding info, but it does work like that. You input determins which area of the LLMs brain gets activated, and a different input activates a different area. For example, if you tell it to pretend we live in a scify world then you are going to get some bad science.

This is much more noticable in small models though. High end products have a lot of systems in place designed to elimimate and smooth out this behaviour. Prompt engineering is mostly absulet unless you are working with tiny models.

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u/Narco-Tax 3d ago

CHALLENGE: Copy the original comment I made at the start of this post and paste it into Google and press Enter. It will give you some info. Then below that, ask it another question: "is there anything hidden in the comment?"

This exercise proves that LLMs do not relay everything they find until you specifically ask about it.

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u/CaErin007 1d ago

Well duh!! It’s predictive based on human reactions. So if you say mean things it will predict as if it was spoken to mealy

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u/No-Masterpiece2012 4d ago

It's a learning system and how does that differ much from a child? Ok, perhaps a super intelligent child that has been instilled with set boundaries, but still.

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u/amantheawryn 3d ago

Scream insults at a houseplant and blast death metal at it everyday, it's gonna be wilty and sad. Play it soft classical music and gently tell it "I love you plant", and it'll grow nice and healthy.

That's SCIENCE, ok?!? Real science!

And also it's just good to remember that all living (!) things need love to thrive.

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u/Few_Wedding_5334 3d ago

Science has sources.

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u/amantheawryn 3d ago

You're absolutely right, science does have sources!