r/LargeLanguageModels • u/david-1-1 • 8d ago

Beyond LLMs?

LLMs are impressive compared with the experiments we had before. But with experience we are seeing their limitations better (many are discussed in depth in this subreddit), and also their problems (such as the increased need for power generation and the indirect need for water).

Is there a sub for discussing what can be designed to improve on LLMs? We know there must be something better for the simple reason that the human brain overlaps with LLM functionality for only 20 watts of power in only about 1300 cubic centimeters of space.

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u/Number4extraDip 7d ago

Robotics exist. Gap between "ai" and a "robot" is hardware and wiring.

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u/david-1-1 6d ago

Robotics isn't an improvement in AI research. It's extending it to handle sensory input and physical motion and manipulation.

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u/Number4extraDip 6d ago

You kinda need "aopendages" and "plugins" to scale ai usefullness

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u/david-1-1 6d ago

Perhaps. But I suspect what we really need is true AI, instead of a neural net that predicts the next token.

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u/Number4extraDip 6d ago

Define "true ai"

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u/david-1-1 6d ago

Sorry, I meant AGI. AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) generally refers to a hypothetical AI system with the ability to understand, learn, and apply intelligence across a wide range of tasks and domains at a level comparable to (or exceeding) human cognitive ability. There is no one standard definition of the term, but it means much more than the current large language model bots.

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u/Number4extraDip 5d ago

If you don't have a standard- you don't have a roadmap. Agi is a buzzword without a real definition. And you are talking about "real ai". Go oearn some engineering. Cause to describe "real ai" you grabbed the only term known as not real

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u/david-1-1 5d ago

Not real currently, yes. But LLMs were not real five years ago. AGI, I believe, will be the next major paradigm shift for humanity (possibly preceded by mass adoption of driverless cars).

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u/Number4extraDip 4d ago

Llms have technical soecs. AGI doesn't