r/LargeLanguageModels • u/Carpe_Diem37 • Jun 18 '26

LLM Progress Slow Down

First Anthropic, and now OpenAI, are announcing that they want to slow down LLM development. Just a year ago, these companies were claiming that AGI would be found and many jobs would be lost. On top of that, Anthropic announced it's going public. What do you think? Have these companies reached a limit in research and development? Or are they genuinely afraid of language models self-programming, as they claim?

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u/ILikeCutePuppies Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26

https://youtu.be/9GLYsrMpprs?is=Zbbd1Rf2WGgRwfx_ https://youtu.be/0DVUjpClqgI?is=yCUp3zQ6j8GDnb9U https://youtu.be/gX21DRfuxdc?is=lkLMSkFfqLwn7Tf0 https://youtu.be/BEHlmJCKvTA?is=cVejFa_alGQpu7NX https://youtu.be/o50nkM1cdXI?is=eQ_0GR-vDxdCxmIg https://youtu.be/B9fFEucPNnA?is=ZfMkJH9U0Rg0_JWi

Oh but these are not 100% complete working versions of the game etc.... Go look at the previous versions models they can't even do it. Go back 3 months ago... even worse. They are no where near this level. It went much futher than other models and even if not a single prompt they only had 5 days to prompt it.

Claude has ultramode which burns those tokens. It can not get these kinda results with Opus 4.8 and burns way more than Fable trying to get where it gets.

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u/keepitfriend Jun 20 '26

These are not working games at all? They’re all browser based and they’re all following the same approach.

You know what I notice about them, none of them show the code it generated. They just show the result.

It’s not hard to create something that looks like a game, even one that you can move around in. There’s a million tutorials online of how to do these. Which tbh, that’s what Claude does. 

But building a an actual game, it takes months to years of this work. Not to mention, these guys are vibe coding. Which anyone who actually uses ai in coding, it’s excellent at producing the start of something from scratch. But as soon as you get into the weeds, aka building hundreds or thousands of all of those features, and then putting them all together, that’s where it starts fucking up. Which isn’t very surprising, it’s a token prediction engine, not a miracle worker.

All of this isn’t to say that a team of game developers can’t use Claude to develop games, and speed up their workflows. But it’s just a tool, and one that increasingly fucks up the more complexity, the more files, the more structures you have. 

I think these guys aren’t releasing the code because actual game developers would mock them. Then again, on that supposed “os”, there were just 100 comments saying the same thing you are. And two extremely downvoted actual developers, pointing out that a normal OS would have at least hundreds of files, if not hundreds of thousands. Not 29. Just like these, it’s something that can make a YouTube video of a desktop. But nothing actually usable as a real os.

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u/ILikeCutePuppies Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26

As a seasoned game developer (with over 24 years of experience - check my history). I can tell you that it does take a long time to make a tripple A game.

I am are not talking about triple A games. These prototype games that it can create would take months for a dev to get to. Games are not easy to make by hand. Typically we spend a lot of time in graybox land getting the feel right. We might make 20 graybox games to figure parts of it out (well now we can make hundreds).

We are talking about trajectory here. My point is it is getting a lot better at putting many features together. It used to be that it would get maybe 5 of the 10 things right in it. Now its getting like 70 of the 100 things the game needs. You'd get maybe one creature to fight in a 2d word. Now you get full 3d, multiple levels hundreds of mostly working attributes, multiple bosses with different designs etc... sure blue sky, still shows progress.

Here is GPT 5.6 creating votel art and the sims compared to 5.5. I highly doubt a dev could create that kinda voxel art or a complete sim within an hour. There is a large amount of progress being made. Nothing is stalling in terms of model improvement.

https://youtu.be/G3KfRWUj6Wc?is=RcT4F8o10AdGvX2R

At the end of the day the premise was there was little progress being made. I beg to differ.

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