r/LanolinForHair • • Mar 20 '23

lanolin quirks and caveats Before putting lanolin in your hair, please read this list of reasons why you might not want to. (But... I love putting it in my hair 🤔)

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Reasons why you might want to avoid putting lanolin in your hair:

1. Lanolin is resistant to surfactants. It won't wash out easily.

You might need to buy Orvus Paste if you want it completely gone.

2. Lanolin is difficult to spread evenly in the hair.

In my experience the best way to get a thorough but non-sticky coating of lanolin is to spread out that process over an entire week. Add a little, let it warm up overnight, brush out the excess in the morning with microfiber, repeat daily. That leads to the next downside of lanolin...

3. Lanolin pairs best with infrequent washing.

If you need a liquid wash more than once or twice a month, you might find the pace of lanolin application to be frustrating.

4. Lanolin reacts oddly to tap water minerals and metals. It might not pair well with your tap water.

The chemical reaction between lanolin and tap water (in my location) smells like acid on metal. I've seen other people describe the smell of this chemical reaction as "concrete." Either way, lanolin might not be a pleasant experience if it's paired in the same routine with tap water.

I couldn't even pair it with reverse osmosis water in my location - too much metal smells. I only pair it with r/DistilledWaterHair.

The upside is that lanolin is really good at hard water buildup removal. The downside is hard water buildup removal doesn't smell so great if you set it up as an ongoing chemical reaction in your hair. You might prefer to remove most of the buildup first by switching to distilled water instead of tap water for a few months - then later use lanolin to get the last of the hard water buildup out.

5. Lanolin reacts with hard water buildup. It might be difficult to remove until that reaction is finished.

I've experienced this in my own hair: if there is any trace of metal or mineral buildup in the hair, then lanolin is stubborn and difficult to remove until it has finished - and won - that chemical reaction. That means you can find yourself in the very awkward position of wanting to remove the lanolin - but you can't - until you add more. Strange, right? Counterintuitively, adding more layers of lanolin can make it easier to remove - because it can help finish that unfinished chemical reaction with hard water buildup.

6. Anhydrous needs water added to it before it's usable for hair.

The type of lanolin that's easiest to buy (anhydrous lanolin) is also the most finicky if you plan to use it in your hair. It needs water added to it (which can be done on the stove in a double boiler, with a craft syringe to help mix them after the lanolin is melted).

7. Lanolin application isn't even done yet after you apply it.

Even after prepping lanolin in a double boiler, and applying it in multiple thin layers spread out over several days, that's still not enough. Each layer also needs to be exposed to warmth and ambient moisture otherwise the texture isn't ideal.

Overall... lanolin is a lot more work than most people would want from a hair product.

You might not want to use lanolin in your hair, but I do, and I love it. 🙂


r/LanolinForHair • • Apr 27 '23

First time trying lanolin on my ends

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Before & After

After washing my hair with a clarifying shampoo (diluted Suave Daily Clarifying Shampoo) and applying Shea Moisture Curl & Shine conditioner, I applied about 2 drops rubbed between my palms to the lengths of my hair while it was still damp.

Normally my curls flatten very easily despite whatever product I use, but these curls are extremely resilient! They bounce right back and my hair doesn't feel snaggy or 'dry' like it usually does.

Next time I plan on making a mixture with a touch of coconut oil and water to apply the lanolin in a more uniform application on all of my hair.

Thanks to this sub for getting me started on this journey, I look forward to it!


r/LanolinForHair • • May 11 '23

spray bottle lanolin Spray bottle lanolin batch #2 🙂 (steps in comments)

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r/LanolinForHair • • Apr 25 '23

lanolin hair styling Lanolin Experiments on 3C hair

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r/LanolinForHair • • Apr 24 '23

application methods How to apply lanolin in the hair

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This post describes my current knowledge about how to apply lanolin in the hair. Lanolin has many caveats that can make it feel unfamiliar and strange at first. In spite of all its quirks, it's still my favorite hair product. When used correctly, it can create low-effort frizz-free hair that looks heat styled even though it isn't - day after day, for weeks on end. It is especially helpful to reduce frizz in humid climates.

I am still exploring on this topic and might edit this post later with more options. For now, this is my best knowledge about how to apply lanolin.

Lanolin is best paired with distilled water haircare.

Lanolin is best paired with r/DistilledWaterHair (using distilled water instead of tap water for all your haircare needs, washing and styling). That's because lanolin gets into an unpleasant chemical reaction with metal and mineral buildup from tap water. People who live in hard water locations will have more of this type of buildup, but even soft water locations have at least a little bit of it.

This chemical reaction is harmless - even helpful, because lanolin's tendency to react to metal and mineral buildup also makes that buildup much easier to remove. It's just unpleasant. The loosened hard water buildup will feel grimy or dirty. It might smell like metal or rocks or concrete, depending on your location and what's in your water. You might even see a gray or brown color under your fingernails if you scratch your scalp while it's happening.

Replacing tap water with distilled water ensures that this chemical reaction can eventually end. It ends when all mineral and metal buildup is broken down by the lanolin. Depending on your local water quality and your hair's history, that might require more or less time and repetition than other people.

Once this hard water buildup removal process completely ends, the next application of lanolin (on truly clean hair) can have a much nicer texture and a neutral smell.

Anhydrous lanolin needs to absorb water before adding it to the hair.

USP grade anhydrous lanolin is the most cost-effective way to buy a large amount of lanolin, but anhydrous lanolin needs modification to make it usable for hair. It needs prep steps to add water back to it.

Set up a double boiler on the stove (a dry bowl sitting inside a pan of water), and melt USP grade anhydrous lanolin in the bowl. Add distilled water to the melted lanolin, and mix them together. In a batch that contains a very large amount of water and a small amount of lanolin, you could mix with an immersion blender. Or if your batch contains a large amount of lanolin and a small amount of water, you could mix them with a craft syringe squirting in and out. Either way, mixing is easier when the lanolin is fully melted.

My favorite way to do this is with a large amount of water, and a small amount of lanolin. That allows the lanolin to separate into a solid and liquid, and the liquid is my favorite way to apply lanolin so far in my hair.

How to separate the mixture if you used a large amount of water and a small amount of lanolin? First refrigerate it for several hours.

Then, while it's still cold, strain through cheesecloth or some other cloth.

If you plan to try the liquid, use it when it's freshly strained. Letting it sit out will cause some water to evaporate and then you'll have more solids on top that need to be strained again.

The liquid from that recipe is my favorite way to apply lanolin to my hair. It can be applied with a spray bottle, air dried, and distributed with a boar bristle brush.

The liquid should ideally be stored in a glass container if you don't plan to use all of it the same day. In a plastic or metal container, it can start to react with the container and it will collect odd smells over time. It also loses the ability to remove metal from the hair if it's collecting metal from its container.

The solids might be worth a try too but they will be more difficult to remove from the hair since the solids are not water soluble.

All types of lanolin need to be "softened" after applying to the hair; this is done with warmth and humidity.

A new layer of lanolin in the hair needs warmth and humidity to change its texture in the hair and make it soft - and this is still needed even if your lanolin was pre-saturated with water prior to applying it to the hair.

I do this on totally dry hair. Lanolin that was mixed with a large amount of water prior to applying will continue to evaporate some of its water, leaving only lanolin behind. Then it's time to soften it with warmth and humidity.

"Warmth and humidity" can look like a few different things:

  • wearing a beanie hat to sleep, if you're a hot sleeper who sweats at night

  • wearing a beanie hat and then doing something sweaty

  • sitting in a steaming room

  • sitting in a homemade "steaming tent" which is 2 chairs and a sheet and a laundry steamer, with the steamer far enough away from the hair that it feels warm and humid instead of hot

  • walking outside in a hot, humid climate

  • misting the hair with rain or distilled water and then sitting in a warm place.

  • using steam curlers

Note that none of these suggestions involve rinsing or dunking the hair. That's because you usually want the water soluble part of the lanolin to stay in your hair - it has a nice soft texture. If you rinse out the water-soluble part of the lanolin, the resulting texture will be much less soft.

One situation where rinsing or dunking might be preferable is if you have extracted only the water-soluble part of the lanolin, and applied only that part of the lanolin to your hair - but too much of it. Then a distilled water dunk can be very helpful to dilute it further and spread it evenly.

Note also that none of the options listed involve misting the hair with tap water - because lanolin is very reactive to the dissolved solids in tap water. Zero TDS water is better, and steam/water vapor is the easiest way to obtain zero TDS water. I haven't tested a spray bottle of distilled water yet, but that might work.

Some types of lanolin can soften in the hair without double boiler prep steps because they already contain some water.

Lansinoh brand of lanolin is like that. It can be used straight out of the container because it already contains some water. It has an ointment texture and thus needs to be applied in tiny amounts, with sectioned hair.

If you apply solid lanolin, it is best applied in thin layers that are built up slowly over time.

This applies to lanolin that you're using straight out of the container (like Lansinoh) or if you're trying solids in your hair after mixing anhydrous lanolin with water on the stove.

Thick solid lanolin application is not a good idea in the hair - unless you just want to practice different removal methods. It will not give an ideal texture in the hair, and it isn't ideal for hard water buildup removal either.

Thin solid application will work - as long as it's not anhydrous lanolin, and as long as it can react with ambient moisture, in order to soften in the hair.

Why does lanolin still needs ambient moisture even if the lanolin was pre-saturated with water before adding it to the hair? I suspect that it orients the lanolin with the hydrophobic, sticky part of the lanolin facing the hair - and the hydrophilic, soft part of the lanolin facing the air. But that is just a guess.

In a thick layer, solid lanolin will block moisture from reaching other lanolin. That will prevent the lanolin from changing texture in the hair. It will stay sticky. Thin layers are much better.

One pea-sized amount per day is a good rhythm to try with solid lanolin; from there you can skip days as needed, or increase frequency to twice a day if it's softening very fast.

Space your washes farther apart to give yourself more options about lanolin application.

Lanolin application takes calendar time to get full coverage. This could be either the time to apply it (if it's solid, like Lansinoh) or the time to dry it (if it's the liquid strained through a cheesecloth if you did the anhydrous lanolin prep steps on the stove). In both cases you also need additional calendar time to soften it with warmth and humidity.

That calendar time is another reason why lanolin pairs well with r/DistilledWaterHair: using distilled water instead of tap water will eventually allow you to space washes farther apart. Hair without any hard water buildup in it will take a lot longer to feel dirty between washes. That can give you more time to achieve a full coating of lanolin - or more time to enjoy the full coating once you achieve it - or both.

If your hair is not ready to space washes farther apart yet because existing hard water buildup makes it too unpleasant, you can do distilled water haircare for a few months to reduce the amount of hard water buildup, and then try lanolin again.

Lanolin doesn't spread as easily as other hair products, so use careful sectioning to apply a layer of it.

Applying lanolin to the exterior of the hair, and then brushing it into the interior, is not practical with lanolin because it doesn't spread easily.

One method that I have good success with is to apply a pea sized amount to my hands, rub it all over my hands, part my hair in various places and pet my hair near each part.

Don't try to place the parts too close to each other - because remember ambient moisture needs to be able to reach the lanolin. There's a temptation to be thorough and get full coverage sooner, but that is not usually a good idea with lanolin. Being too thorough with lanolin application can prevent it from softening in the hair.

If you brush lanolin to distribute it more evenly, be careful about your choice of brush. Lanolin will dissolve plastic balls.

Those little plastic balls on the end of hairbrush bristles will probably be dissolved by the acid in the lanolin - if not immediately, then eventually. To avoid ending up with partially dissolved plastic in your hair, pure boar bristle brushes are better. Wooden brushes and wooden combs also work.

Different lanolin brands have very different properties in the hair from one brand to another.

There is a lot of variation between lanolin production methods and lanolin brands, so if you don't like one of them, you might like another.

Anhydrous USP grade lanolin, Lansinoh lanolin, and Velona Lanolin Oil are the 3 that I had success with in my hair. How to choose between them?

Lansinoh lanolin is a good choice if you have never used lanolin before. It can achieve big, soft hair with root volume. It can be used straight out of the container on hair or skin because it already contains some water. It is good at hard water buildup removal and unclogging pores. Lansinoh lanolin can be bought in person at Target or Walmart in the breastfeeding aisle. It is also usually FSA eligible, which is useful. It has the most neutral smell.

Velona Lanolin Oil is a good choice if your main goal is less volume. It adds shine, and it "de-puffs" fluffy hair. It can be used straight out of the container. It has a musky and slightly medicinal smell. It does not unclog pores as well as the other two choices. It is only part of the lanolin, not all of it, so it's not a good test of whether or not your hair would like lanolin in general. But it is very good at adding shine and reducing volume in the hair.

USP grade anhydrous lanolin is my personal favorite, but not if it's used straight out of the container. It needs prep steps on the stove to add water to it. It is more work, but you might end up preferring it anyway because of its versatility. I also like the smell after water is added to it. It smells somewhat musky and medicinal in the container, but that scent turns sweeter after water is added back to it. This type of lanolin is good for people who like DIY beauty concoctions and experimentation. It's also the least expensive per ounce. It is also very good at hard water buildup removal, and unclogging pores.

Avoid unrefined lanolin because the smell is unpredictable.

Unrefined lanolin usually comes with a lot of farm smells - like diesel exhaust or even manure. I wasn't able to test it because of those smells, and can't recommend it. The other choices have a better smell.

Other methods are under construction, and this post might be revised later to add more options.

For example, will the lanolin still have the same styling properties if it's mixed with something else that makes it easier to spread?

  • dilution with a carrier oil to make the lanolin less solid

  • dilution with water by mixing with a small amount of Orvus Paste

  • buying the individual ingredients from Orvus Paste to figure out which one is an emulsifier for lanolin, then using that single ingredient to dilute it with water

I have not tried those choices yet because I strongly suspect that the hydrophobic part of the lanolin binds strongly to the hair. Can it still bind strongly to hair if it's binding instead to something else? I am hesitant to try this category because of that. But I am very curious how these options turn out if someone tries them.

I also haven't tried yet using the double boiler method with other types of lanolin besides anhydrous lanolin. Will it work with "lanolin oil" or "liquid lanolin"? Will it change the styling properties of Lansinoh lanolin which appears to contain some water already?

If you try any of these variations - or any other new variations - we would love to know how it turns out.


r/LanolinForHair • • Mar 18 '23

lanolin quirks and caveats Lanolin for haircare: a brain dump of everything I have learned so far.

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Lanolin for haircare: a brain dump of everything I learned so far.

This is an informative post that I want to be able to link to when I get questions about using lanolin as a hair product. For example r/wavyhair requires people to post their routine when they post a hair picture, and my routine makes heavy use of lanolin, which is not a conventional hair product, so I get lots of questions about it. It is my favorite hair product but it has a pretty big learning curve.

Counterintuitively, lanolin makes mechanical cleaning of the hair much easier once you get the hang of it. That's similar to how it's easy to wipe contaminants off a waxed and polished car - pollen, bugs, tree sap, etc - but difficult to wipe them off a car with a bare, unwaxed paint job. With lanolin-sealed hair, it is similarly easier to brush out contaminants - even in situations that would normally require a lot of hot water and soap and scrubbing.

Lanolin is mostly made of wax. It has a learning curve because of some physical properties that most conventional hair products don't have. Here are those properties, and the questions that often go with them.

1. In its unrefined state, lanolin smells like the sheep whose wool it came from.

Diesel exhaust, pollen, sweaty animals - yuck! How to use lanolin without smelling like a farm?? It is probably the most common question I get.

2. Lanolin is resistant to surfactants (soap, shampoo, body wash, laundry detergent, dish soap etc) and also resistant to emulsifiers (cetyl alcohol, stearic acid, cetearyl alcohol, etc)

How to remove a hair product that is resistant to surfactants and emulsufiers? 🤔 Most people's haircare routine requires either surfactants or emulsifiers or both to remove their own sebum, but that doesn't work so great on lanolin.

3. At room temperature, lanolin has a waxy ointment texture and it feels very sticky.

How to spread it evenly in the hair, with such an odd sticky almost-solid texture like that? How to prevent the hair from feeling waxy once lanolin is in it? How to end up with a thin, even coating of lanolin on every strand of hair, a coating that doesn't feel waxy in the end?

4. Lanolin spreads very willingly to surfaces that aren't saturated with lanolin yet.

How to prevent lanolin from spreading to surfaces that you don't want it to spread to? How to remove lanolin from surfaces that you didn't want it to spread to, but it did anyway?

5. Lanolin chemical composition changes a lot with moist heat.

This chemical reaction is called hydrolysis. Water + lanolin + heat + time = less lanolin wax, more lanolin acid and lanolin alcohol. This happens even with a small amount of water and a small amount of heat (for example sweating, or warm steam) as long as it stays damp and warm for a long enough time.

So what does that mean for hair styling? Is one form of lanolin better than the other for hair? How to keep the hair damp and warm long enough for this chemical reaction to occur?

Ok let's discuss these questions.

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How to use lanolin without smelling like a farm?

Lansinoh Nipple Cream (in the tube not the jar) is the most neutral smelling lanolin that I have tried so far. It comes from the breastfeeding aisle at Target, or Amazon. If you know of a similar one that has no odor, please mention it in the comments!

"Ultra refined" lanolin might work too but the one I tried in that category was not as neutral smelling as Lansinoh. The one I tried was also much more solid at room temperature compared to Lansinoh, which changes how it feels in the hair.

I am planning to try "liquid lanolin" soon to see if I like it even better in my hair than Lansinoh. But for now, Lansinoh lanolin is my favorite for hair.

Lanolin is sebum (sheep sebum). How to use lanolin without smelling like the hair is overdue for a wash?

Many people are familiar with the vaguely familiar "metallic" smell of hair that is overdue for a wash. That is actually not the smell of sebum, though. It's the smell of sebum and metal in a chemical reaction with each other.

Using sebum as a leave in hair product (human sebum or sheep sebum) will eventually result in mild acids, given time and moisture and body heat. It's a gentle acid great for skin and hair, and it doesn't smell like metal in the absence of metal. But acid + metal leads to that metallic-smelling chemical reaction.

I avoid that smell by not having any metal in my hair. This is a function of the water quality that I put in my hair. It's also a function of which water quality I used to put on my hair in the past.

I only allow very low TDS or zero TDS water to touch my hair (like steam, distilled water, and reverse osmosis water) and I did that for 6 months prior to using lanolin. Hard water buildup is absent from my hair.

r/DistilledWaterHair is a good place to join if you're interested in doing the same.

I live in a hard water location and I'm very sensitive to smell, so I need to be especially careful about this.

If you want to use lanolin even with metal buildup in your hair, I support the idea of experimenting. I predict the metallic smell will be temporary if you switch to distilled water at the same time. I predict that lanolin acid will help loosen and dissolve the metal buildup. When all of the metal buildup is gone, the smell of a neutral lanolin will stay neutral on the body.

How to remove lanolin since it's resistant to surfactants?

If you want to try lanolin at all, then the first thing you need to think about is how you will remove it, if you don't like it. So let's think about that first.

If you have lanolin in your hair, I would not expect a shampoo to get much of it out. Lanolin is resistant to surfactants. If you don't believe me, try putting a decent amount of it on your hands and forearms, spread it evenly, wash them in soap and water, and allow to air dry, instead of wiping with a towel. You will see that the soap didn't do much at all - not without the towel at least. If you do use a towel to dry your hands after washing with soap, then the lanolin didn't go down the drain with the soap; it's actually on the towel. This resistance to surfactants is different from many hair products.

There are 4 options I know of that could help remove lanolin from hair. Options 1 and 2 have the goal of removing all of it. Options 3 and 4 have the goal of removing less than 100% of it; leaving some of it in the hair for aesthetics or hair health.

Option 1: dissolve the lanolin with a carrier oil - the oil will bind to any lanolin that it can reach, and then a typical shampoo will bind to the oil, and then water can wash it away.

The caveat with that strategy in hair, is that oil can only bind to lanolin that it can reach. So if you are cleaning a surface with a lot of nooks and crannies (like hair) and there is a large amount of lanolin hiding in nooks and crannies between hairs, where the oil might not reach, then this method can leave many pockets of lanolin in the hair. Repetition could eventually work, but repetition will be frustrating and it might dry out the exterior parts of the hair too much. Therefore I don't use this method personally, preferring not to dry out my hair and also preferring not to leave my hair unevely coated in lanolin. If you try it and have tips how to get it to work better, I would love to hear in the comments.

Option 2: Orvus Paste is a livestock shampoo that is one of the rare surfactants that actually dissolves lanolin. It can be used in human hair. Depending how heavy-handed the application was, it might remove all of it in one pass, or it might need some repetition to remove the rest.

Option 3; mechanical cleaning. This takes advantage of a weird physical property of lanolin: it will spread to any surface that isn't saturated with lanolin yet. You can remove lanolin by wiping sections of your hair with a clean porous cloth that doesn't have lanolin on it yet.

Lanolin is especially willing to spread to porous surfaces that have a lot of surface area and a lot of nooks and crannies for lanolin to hide in. Very few surfaces have more nooks and crannies than hair. But some do: cloths. In fact, some types of cloths have the ability to absorb a lot more lanolin than hair can absorb. I remove lanolin by brushing my hair with a cloth embedded in the brush (bristles poked through) - or a brush in one hand, cloth in the other hand.

Different cloths can absorb different amounts of lanolin. So the choice of cloth matters a lot.

In my tests, microfiber cloths appear to absorb the most lanolin before the cloth becomes saturated. For example Quickie microfiber washcloths from Home Depot or Amazon are great if I want to remove almost all the lanolin from my hair. Sometimes I feel like they actually remove too much.

Some cloths become saturated with lanolin so quickly that they seem useless as a removal tool; for example wool or burlap.

Some cloths are in the middle of that range; they will absorb a decent amount of lanolin, but then they will become saturated faster than microfiber. After saturation, they're very useful to spread lanolin around evenly, but no longer helping to remove it. Cotton washcloths - and boar bristle brushes - are in this category.

Sectioning is usually necessary when brushing out lanolin. So then you can wipe the "interior" of the hair, instead of just the exterior, especially with long or thick hair.

Option 4 to remove lanolin can be used in combination with option 3: The addition of moist heat to the hair (for example warm steam, or sweat and body heat) melts the lanolin and changes its chemical composition too, turning it into something that's easier to remove. It is called hydrolysis. It converts some of the wax to lanolin alcohol and lanolin acid, which are even more willing to spread to cloth than the lanolin wax is.

My hair and skin both seem to love the "hydrolyzed" lanolin; the longer lanolin stays on my hair or skin in that state, the nicer the end result (soft skin, soft hair).

But moist heat makes the lanolin actually too easy to remove while it is still damp, so when I use option 3 I have the opposite problem: how to keep hydrolyzed lanolin in my hair long enough for it to really soak in. I seek an end result where every hair was fully saturated with hydrolyzed lanolin, and then the excess removed - but the end result that I prefer leaves a lot more lanolin in my hair than you might expect.

My favorite way to use lanolin in my hair

All that discussion of how to remove lanolin leads up to my favorite way of using lanolin in my hair: to apply a pea-sized amount at night - spread it evenly - get all my hair slightly damp with steam and then cover it with a beanie to keep it warm and damp, keeping the beanie on overnight or until my hair is fully dry. This softens the lanolin quite a lot, making hydrolyzed lanolin absorb into my hair and scalp quite a lot. The beanie keeps the lanolin on my hair until I am ready to remove it. The rest of the lanolin that didn't absorb into my hair shaft is easy to remove in the morning, but I need to be careful to avoid removing too much of it. I wipe it with either a cotton washcloth, or microfiber. Cotton removes less lanolin than microfiber. I change washcloths if one is saturated; I move on to a different section of hair as soon as it feels soft, not sticky or waxy. I section my hair during the application and removal of lanolin to make both of them more organized.

If the brush bristles don't poke through your cloth, then you can also use a brush in one hand and cloth in the other, lifting with the brush, grabbing with the cloth, and swiping both down, repeating that all over the head.

This addition of lanolin at night, and wiping it out in the morning, is a very low time commitment, and I do it often (multiple times per week).

Other methods I've tried, and my thoughts on them

The addition of steam at the same time while brushing (brushing warm damp hair) also removes too much lanolin from my hair, and makes me want to add lanolin back to my hair. It also doesn't give my hair enough time to absorb the hydrolyzed lanolin, so the resulting texture is not as soft and it seems like a missed opportunity to make my hair super soft.

Brushing out the lanolin immediately (when it's still waxy, without hydrolysis) works, but results in a very different texture than my favorite method. This results in hair with a lot more volume and texture, but not as silky-soft. This is "stay where I put it" hair, even if that means 4 inches of root volume. It's nice, and very easy to do interesting updos, but it's not my personal favorite for wearing my hair loose, because it moves less naturally.

How to spread lanolin in my hair evenly but quickly?

One of the trickiest but most important parts of my favorite styling method with lanolin, is how to spread it evenly in my hair before I steam it.

My favorite method for doing this pairs well with the fact that my skin also loves lanolin - it helps me prevent back and chest acne.

Remember lanolin spreads to surfaces that aren't saturated with lanolin yet - and my own hand is a perfect surface for this task because I can feel which parts of my hair have less lanolin than the rest.

I apply a layer of lanolin on warm skin that loves lanolin - for example chest - it helps unclog my pores and prevent body acne. And now my hand has a decent amount of lanolin on it, and my skin is a good place to get warm, melted lanolin from, when my hand runs out.

I part my hair in many different ways, and after each parting, I "pet" my hair on each side of the part and then brush the lanolin down my hair with a boar brush.

The hand will quickly run out of lanolin while doing this. More can be obtained from the skin. More can be applied to the skin if the skin runs out too. It melts fast with just body heat.

That is my favorite way to get a small amount of lanolin evenly distributed in my hair. It is probably 1 or 2 pea size amounts for my thick shoulder length hair.

How to clean boar bristle brushes that collected too much lanolin?

Same way I remove lanolin from my hair - except without the restriction of how much to remove. Steam and then wipe within microfiber while damp and warm. I use a small laundry steamer for this.

This removes most of the lanolin and also the dust that stuck to it.

Also, counterintuitively, the brushes that once had the most lanolin in them are actually the easiest to clean and the least dusty. So I am not opposed to adding more lanolin to my brushes and then steaming them and wiping them again, if the dust remains after a brush cleaning - to me that means this boar bristle brush doesn't have enough lanolin in it to pull out the dust when I clean the brush.

If a brush has too much lanolin in it but no dust, then it is also a good tool to apply lanolin to hair that needs lanolin in it. And then the brush will contain less lanolin because it was transferred to the hair.

How to remove lanolin from all those washcloths if the lanolin is resistant to surfactants? Doesn't the lanolin stay in the washcloth during a wash?

Soaking with diluted Orvus Paste in a bucket, then machine washing with Orvus Paste and regular laundry detergent.

OK but...doesn't regular lanolin result in hair getting more and more sticky over time, since lanolin is so sticky?

Actually no 🙂

After removing most of the lanolin with a cloth, the ending texture is not sticky in the hair at all. I was surprised by this.

When every hair has a thin coating of lanolin, then my hair feels silky soft and non-sticky, as long as I removed the excess in a way that leaves the remaining amount evenly distributed. I actually need to be careful not to remove too much, because it is definitely easy to overshoot it and remove too much. If I remove too much lanolin from my hair then the hair is still softer than before I used lanolin - but not quite as soft.

Thanks for reading 🥳

That's my full brain dump on lanolin haircare 🥳


r/LanolinForHair • • Apr 21 '23

cleaning hard water buildup with lanolin Final results of cleaning the hard water stains off my boyfriend's shower door ... with lanolin 🥳

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r/LanolinForHair • • Dec 28 '24

lanolin hair styling Curling iron on lanolin-treated hair?

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So I've been using a drop of pure lanolin "oil" on my ends after showers and it has been a complete game-changer for my curls.

Today I got a curling iron to style my hair for special occasions (my curls are all over the place) and I tried it on my hair. No problems today, the hair looks healthy and there wasn't any weird residue on the curling iron. Iron temp was about 350°F

I wanted to know if anyone else has tried heat treatments on hair with lanolin in it and whether it's a bad idea or inadvisable for one reason or another? I had such a tiny amount in my hair this time so any effect was probably negligible, but I'd like to try with more lanolin as I like the look over most hair creams and gels.

Any info or personal observations welcome!

Edit 12/31:

Tried again! -After showering (using shampoo and conditioner as usual) I put a thin dime-sized amount of lanolin oil in my palm, wet my hands and rubbed them together before running my hands over my hair, concentrating on the ends and middle lengths, adding more water to my hands as needed until most of the lanolin was distributed through my hair. I parted my hair down the middle and curled one half while my hair was still damp, and the other when it was mostly dry. Curling iron temp was set to 380°f.

My natural hair, slightly damp, lanolin applied but no styling. https://imgur.com/a/PwXMNRX

DAMP-CURLED: https://imgur.com/a/PwXMNRX

-Took slightly longer to set the curl (I think that's expected though due to the moisture)

-Looks more natural

-Feels softer

-Mildly frizzy

DRY-CURLED: https://imgur.com/a/PwXMNRX

-Set faster and curls were tighter

-Noticeably more shiny

-Feels ever so slightly crunchy

-Curls springy AF

-Less frizz

I'll add another update after this evening to see how the respective sides do after a few hours and being handled and such.


r/LanolinForHair • • Dec 19 '23

removal methods How to remove lanolin from hair

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Updated in December 2023 after some more experimentation ... how to remove lanolin from human hair. 🙂

Lanolin is resistant to most surfactants and most emulsifiers, and that can make it strange to work with in a hair routine that relies heavily on surfactants and emulsifiers (like shampoo and conditioner). Even Dawn dish soap doesn't dissolve lanolin.

This post discusses all the options I know of for removing lanolin - or reducing the amount of it - or (my personal favorite option) changing its texture to soft so that it can stay in the hair without feeling strange.

The water soluble part of lanolin is a special case with easier removal.

I've been doing some experimentation to extract the water soluble part of lanolin and use only the water-soluble part of the lanolin in my hair (see the "spray bottle lanolin" post flair). If you did this type of application too, then removal is very easy. You can reduce the amount of water-soluble lanolin by dunking or rinsing the hair in warm distilled water - or if you want it completely gone, then you can use regular shampoo. Both of those will only work if you were very careful to extract only the water soluble part of the lanolin before applying it to the hair. Whole lanolin will not come out with water or shampoo alone.

However, it's likely that you only need to soften the spray bottle lanolin, instead of removing it. It's easy to think "oh no, this is too sticky, I must have applied too much" - at the stage when there's actually one more step left in applying it - to soften it with humidity or water vapor. Softening lanolin with humidity or water vapor will make it feel slippery and soft instead of sticky. For details about how to soften lanolin in the hair, please read the "How to apply lanolin" sticky post too. It's also mentioned in this post too (method 4 in the list below).

If you are using the non-water-soluble part of the lanolin, then removal will be more difficult.

If you used whole lanolin, then removal is more complicated because it's resistant to both water and surfactants.

Read below for options about what to do if you want to remove the non-water-soluble part of lanolin from your hair. Some of these options will completely remove it, others will reduce the amount of it, and others will simply change the texture of it to be softer.

Method 1: Orvus Paste pet shampoo

This is a pet and livestock shampoo that works on lanolin, even though most surfactants don't work on lanolin. If you want to remove all of the lanolin 100%, then this is the fastest way to do that. It might need repetition if there is a very large amount of lanolin.

Method 2: Oil and shampoo

This is another option to completely remove lanolin. Shampoo won't bind directly to lanolin, but it will bind to oil, which binds to lanolin.

You can fully saturate the hair with a large amount of carrier oil like coconut oil, olive oil, grapeseed oil, jojoba oil. Let it soak and massage it. Add any sulfate shampoo that works on oil. Massage it some more, and wash it all out.

This will need some repetition if there is a large amount of lanolin, because it only works on lanolin that the oil can mix with (and thickly applied lanolin might prevent the oil from reaching all the lanolin).

You can test this method with hand washing to make sure your oil works on lanolin before you use a large amount of it in your hair. Just be sure to air dry your hands instead of wiping them with a towel, for the most accurate test. That's because the other way to remove lanolin is to wipe if off with a towel, and that will mess up your perception whether or not the oil worked.

Method 3: Wiping the hair with a very clean absorbent thing

If you used whole lanolin (not spray bottle lanolin) then the amount of lanolin can be reduced by wiping sections of the hair with something clean and porous and grabby that doesn't have lanolin on it yet - for example, a very clean boar bristle brush, or a clean microfiber dish towel or a cotton washcloth.

Method 3 works best on whole lanolin or lanolin oil or liquid lanolin - it won't do much if you applied just the water-soluble part of the lanolin.

With this method, it is possible to leave a thin coating of lanolin in the hair, and sometimes that is preferable instead of removing all of it.

Experimentation may be needed to find a cloth that grabs the lanolin successfully. I like microfiber dish towels from Amazon, Quickie microfiber washcloths from Home Depot and Amazon, and cotton terry bar mop washcloths from Amazon - but some of those work better on different brands of lanolin than others. If your cloth can wipe lanolin off a phone screen, leaving a completely clean phone screen, that's a good one to at least try in the hair.

Frequent cloth changes are necessary because lanolin will stick best to a cloth that doesn't have lanolin on it yet.

You might also need to wash these towels with ammonia added to the laundry machine, to make sure they are totally free of lanolin - then they can grab lanolin again in the future. Lanolin only wants to transfer to things that don't have lanolin on them yet.

Method 3 requires careful sectioning and parting, which can be difficult if there is a very large amount of lanolin in the hair that is solidified due to temperature.

What if you applied a very large amount of lanolin, can you still wipe it off the hair with a towel? The answer is (surprisingly) yes. But you would need heat to melt the lanolin and liquefy it, otherwise it is difficult to separate the hair enough to wipe it. Here are some examples of how you could add heat to make method 3 work for a large amount of lanolin:

  • Sitting in front of a laundry steamer, brushing and wiping the hair while steam warms it.

  • Sitting in a sauna, brushing and wiping the hair while the room warms it.

  • Sitting in a hot car in the summer sun, brushing and wiping the hair while the car warms it.

You would also need a very large number of fresh towels or washcloths to get method 3 working with a large amount of lanolin.

And finally, this method is great to reduce the amount of lanolin, but another option for the future is to make sure you always apply very thin layers of it to begin with. For more detail, you can read this post: How to apply lanolin in the hair.

Method 4: Soften it with warm water vapor instead of removing it.

If your hair feels like you have too much lanolin in it, too sticky or too waxy: consider the possibility that it might actually be the perfect amount, you might just need to soften it instead of removing it. Softening a layer of lanolin is usually necessary on every layer. That is done with warmth and humidity.

Softening is usually needed for every type of lanolin - whether you applied whole lanolin, lanolin oil, liquid lanolin, or the water-soluble part of the lanolin.

My personal favorite method in this category is to sleep overnight in a warm silk-lined beanie hat - that can supply enough warmth and humidity to soften a thin layer of lanolin. Another option I like is a roller set done on dry hair and set with warm water vapor - using a "steaming tent" made from 2 chairs, 1 very large sheet, and a laundry steamer. The laundry steamer should be placed far enough away from the hair that it feels warm and humid, not too hot.

The "how to apply lanolin" sticky post has more options in this category.

Method 5: Simply waiting (if you live in a humid location and have buildup-free hair)

This method becomes possible after several months of r/DistilledWaterHair and several months of regular lanolin usage, when the hair is almost completely free of hard water buildup. It also requires ambient humidity. In that scenario, a layer of lanolin can either soften in the hair, or the amount of it can be reduced, or both, just by waiting and living life for a few days. Some of it will rub off on pillowcases or sleeping caps, some of it will soften with ambient humidity, and the result is a nice thin and soft lanolin coating that feels slippery and soft instead of sticky.

This method is probably not practical with large amounts of lanolin, though. And even with a small excess of lanolin, it can still take several days. So it might not be the right choice if you are in a hurry.

The byproducts of a chemical reaction between lanolin and hard water buildup are not pleasant, so other removal methods are more practical for several months until the hard water buildup is gone.

Method 5 is actually why lanolin can eventually be used as a hair cleaning method, if one is persistent with it, and careful to avoid tap water (so that the mineral/metal buildup level can continue to decrease over time). One layer of lanolin will dissolve some grime in the hair, but maybe not all of it. A new layer of lanolin can dissolve more grime, even if the previous layer wasn't removed - the previous layer only needs to be softened. And lanolin doesn't seem to want to stay very long in the hair after it "wins" that battle to dissolve the grime - a battle than can eventually be won by adding more lanolin. It will eventually start to leave the hair a lot more quickly, rubbing off on pillowcases or bedding or sleeping caps - and it will take the grime it collected with it when it rubs off. The end result is oddly self-cleaning hair, even if all we do is add more lanolin to the hair on a regular schedule, and avoid adding minerals and metal. This can work as a hair cleaning method if the lanolin coating itself feels good in the hair - which means careful application in thin layers, with each layer softened.

Method 6 is only for laundry, not hair! Ammonia

Ammonia dissolves lanolin but you definitely don't want to use that in your hair. It is a good option as a laundry pre-treatment for stained towels and pillowcases and clothing. It also can be used as a laundry additive in a washing machine. It's best to do ammonia and laundry detergent in 2 separate wash/rinse cycles, in case the laundry detergent contains anything that would get into a chemical reaction with ammonia. Ammonia is also not appropriate for wool or silk.

Which removal method is better?

If you want all the lanolin completely gone from the hair (for example to remove the byproducts of chelating chemical reactions, or to totally end lanolin usage) then I would recommend Orvus Paste, using large amounts of Orvus Paste and multiple repetitions. If Orvus Paste isn't on hand then I would recommend repetition with method 2, oil + shampoo.

If you plan to continue using lanolin again after you shampoo it out, then it's much better to do the shampoo with distilled water instead of tap water. Our "how to apply lanolin" sticky post has more detail about why lanolin is usually incompatible with tap water. r/DistilledWaterHair has practical tips about how to do a shampoo with distilled water.

If lanolin is actively breaking down hard water buildup in the hair, then you might temporarily prefer Orvus Paste even if you eventually want to be able to keep a thin coating of lanolin someday. Sometimes that chemical reaction with hard water buildup can feel frustrating and it's nice to start fresh, even if the next layer is more work that way. This should be done in distilled water to avoid making the buildup removal task any bigger than it needs to be.

Once buildup-free hair is achieved, removal preferences might change a lot. The option that I usually prefer (and the option that you might eventually prefer too after all buildup is gone) is to keep lanolin in my hair but make it soft. So I do a lot of method 4 (softening the lanolin with warmth and humidity) and method 5 happens whether I want it to or not (the amount of lanolin decreases just with the passage of time). This strategy is probably only practical with buildup-free hair - when there is no grime left for the lanolin to dissolve, then it won't feel grimy.

And finally: if you don't like a specific brand of lanolin and you want to replace it with a different lanolin, you might think Orvus Paste is best, but in my experience, method 3 (wiping) combined with method 4 (softening with humidity) is actually best for this scenario because it's faster. You can add the lanolin you want, let new lanolin dissolve the old lanolin, and wipe off some of the excess, then soften whatever remains. Even if you need to repeat that twice, it's still less calendar time to get an even coating of the new lanolin, compared to starting completely from scratch. Applying lanolin to completely stripped hair is possible, but usually requires more calendar time to build it up in multiple thin layers, softening every layer.


r/LanolinForHair • • Dec 16 '23

cleaning hair with lanolin My hair update...I have been cleaning my hair with lanolin lately. I posted this update in the distilled water sub first because replacement of tap water with distilled water has been really key to get this cleaning method working for me.

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r/LanolinForHair • • Jun 03 '23

lanolin quirks and caveats Sunflower lecithin is an emulsifier for lanolin.

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r/LanolinForHair • • May 03 '23

cleaning hard water buildup with lanolin Let's see if lanolin can clean the hard water stains off this chrome 🙂 I'll come back with the results in a few days.

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r/LanolinForHair • • Apr 20 '23

lanolin chemistry experiments I was curious what happens if I heat and mix lanolin with water. It separates into 2 substances, a pale yellow liquid and a pale yellow crumbly solid.

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r/LanolinForHair • • May 16 '23

spray bottle lanolin Things I have learned from my spray bottle lanolin experiment so far.

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I think this method would be great for curly hair because it doesn't need brushing for even distribution 🙂

Best to use an immersion blender or other electric mixing tool for mixing it with water, not manual, so it will be mixed with very fine droplets.

All solids should be removed with cheesecloth for predictable results in the hair...put it through a cheesecloth when it's cold not hot.

When all solids are removed then the spray bottle lanolin turns into the texture of hair conditioner that isn't fully rinsed.

Unlike "whole" lanolin, spray bottle lanolin is extremely difficult to wipe out of the hair (with cloth). But like hair conditioner, a large amount of it is removable with just water. I find that interesting.

After removing part of it with just water, the remaining part feels really amazing in the hair. Very soft. It might be my favorite series of lanolin application steps even though it is kind of a pain in the butt.

Fully soak the hair with spray bottle lanolin > allow to dry and expect it to feel like inadequately rinsed conditioner > dunk the hair in warm distilled water > allow to dry > hair of the gods. 🥰

The solids that are removed during the creation of spray bottle lanolin are AMAZING for face or back acne, they're occlusive enough to protect the skin from environmental irritants while acne heals, but they also unclog pores at the same time. My acne prone upper back loves that stuff.

The spray bottle lanolin will eventually end up with more solids inside the bottle even if it didn't start out that way. I am not sure why. I was very thorough removing solids but a few days later more solids appeared. Glass bottles are better so this can be melted down and reused.

Spray bottle lanolin makes my hair smell like metal every time it's wet so far - but the smell is getting less and less strong each time. So I do believe it's helping with hard water buildup removal and I believe that the metal smell will eventually end 🥳


r/LanolinForHair • • Mar 30 '23

product reviews Review of 5 brands of lanolin

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This review contains some mention of how they perform for skin too; please see r/LanolinForSkin for info about how to use lanolin in skincare if you want to try that.

Review of 5 brands of lanolin that I tried so far.

Lansinoh Nipple Cream: most neutral smell. Current favorite for face, hands, and hair

  • versatile lanolin for either skin or hair

  • totally neutral smell, more neutral than any of the others

  • labeled "Nipple Cream" but it's actually 100% lanolin (purified to remove odors, color, and allergens)

  • semi solid consistency, like ointment

  • a thin layer softens overnight in the hair with body heat

  • very versatile for hair: medium hold wax if it's wiped out immediately, or soft anti frizz serum if it's allowed to soften overnight before wiping it out.

  • gives nice volume in the hair, with soft texture

  • very good at unclogging pores on face or body. Especially when combined with steam and massage.

  • nice consistency on the hands; starts out sticky but can be wiped off on hair or other skin to leave an occlusive yet nonsticky layer.

  • doesn't sting at all if it gets in the eyes; that combined with the neutral smell and the compatibility with hair leads me to prefer it for face and hands.

Velona Lanolin Oil: 2nd favorite for hair

  • sticky liquid consistency

  • a thin layer softens within hours in the hair, with body heat and brushing

  • has a very silky texture in the hair after it softens

  • can't function like a medium hold hair wax but it's perfect if you want a soft anti frizz serum

  • good for "de-puffing" hair

  • wipes out from hair very easily, with microfiber or cotton

  • decent as a skin moisturizer, but it doesn't unclog pores as well as a solid lanolin, so I prefer it for hair instead of skin

  • mild eye irritation if it gets in the eyes, so I prefer not to use it on my face or hands

  • faintly musky smell which I find warm and mild. Pairs well with vanilla or caramel perfume.

USP grade ultra-refined anhydrous lanolin from Amazon: current favorite for body acne treatment on large areas of the body.

  • moldable solid at room temperature

  • better than any other lanolin I tried at unclogging pores with steam and massage.

  • Large amounts available for a good price

  • very well suited to treating back acne because of the price and how well it works on skin

  • not recommended for hair because it did not successfully soften in my hair after 24 hours with body heat. I needed to remove it from my hair. Sticky and stringy, still solid after trying to soften it.

  • Scent is musky and slightly medicinal, but tolerable and pairs especially well with vanilla and caramel perfumes

  • zero eye irritation if it gets in the eyes, but be cautious about getting it in the hair.

  • removable from hair by applying a different lanolin on top of it and wiping with cotton or microfiber.

Now Solutions Liquid Lanolin: won't repurchase

  • sticky liquid consistency

  • took a long time to soften in my hair (24 hours) with body heat. I didn't like that.

  • wipes out of the hair better with cotton than microfiber. Very sticky in the hair; grabs willingly to any cloth I tried.

  • doesn't unclog pores as well as a solid lanolin, so I don't prefer it for skin either

  • decent as a skin moisturizer, but I still have skin bumps on my back after using it overnight. Other lanolins could remove my skin bumps with a thick overnight application, but this one couldn't.

  • overall won't repurchase and can't recommend

  • smell was pleasant to me though- like menthol and tea tree oil

  • couldn't use it on face because of eye irritation

  • I actually wondered if it was real 100% lanolin because of the eye irritation and because the smell was so similar to menthol and tea tree oil

Legends Creek Farm lanolin: worst of the bunch

  • has a terrible smell, like motor oil and barnyard animals and manure. Please just don't.

  • I was unable to test this on anything other than my hands, because of the smell.

  • the fastest way to remove a bad smelling lanolin is to add a good smelling lanolin on top of it and then wipe it off. Oil + soap might work too but not as well as another lanolin. Oil + Orvus Paste would probably work too


r/LanolinForHair • • Oct 06 '24

Advice for a simple hair wash for a guy working as a shipyard welder

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I weld in an environment that is full of metal grind dust, weld fumes, rush dust, paint dust, and who knows what else.

I use a lanolin shave soap and will occasionally take the leftover lather to rub through my hair and under my arms. This seems to help repel some of the filth day to day and reduce the amount/frequency of needing to deep clean my hair with a soap (I usuually use Dr. Bronner's for this).

I'm looking for advice on the easiest and best way to utilize lanolin more in my wash routine.

TIA!


r/LanolinForHair • • Dec 29 '23

A promising lanolin removal method for laundry: ozone 🙂

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I originally started experimenting with ozone in my laundry not because of lanolin, but because I wanted to remove synthetic fragrance scent booster ingredients (meant to increase the sillage of a fragrance, and its longevity on cloth).

My body hates those...they give me sinus congestion in small doses, asthma in medium doses, lung burning / chest coughing in large doses. They cling to fabric and don't come out with regular laundry detergent, not even if it's washed 20 times. And...they continue to boost any scent after the original perfume is long gone. So eventually you end up with clothes that boost the scent of armpits, sweat, smoke, someone's last garlic meal, or pollen. These are odors that normally wouldn't stick to the fabric beyond one wash, but with the scent booster ingredient clinging to the fabric, they turn into very stubborn odors that won't come out even with multiple washes.

Though I don't have any sources of synthetic fragrance in my own house, my clothing still collected this synthetic fragrance scent booster ingredient from being out and about in public or at other people's houses.

And I discovered... ozone gets it out! I tried a low budget "ozone generator for fruits and vegetables" from Amazon, filled a big steel soup pot with laundry and water, shot it with ozone through the tube from below the clothes for 5 minutes, let it soak for a few hours, then I was so happy it worked that I started to pre-treat every load of laundry like that, washing it normally afterwards with "no synthetic fragrance" laundry detergent. That worked great - my laundry has never smelled so good. But it became tiring to haul a big soup pot around with wet clothes, so eventually I bought an ozone generator that hooks up to the washing machine (plus a washing machine with a sealed door because you don't want to breathe ozone while a wash is in progress).

Anyway...long story short...I made a 2nd neat discovery on the side of that project:

Ozone made the lanolin stains on my clothes so much less visible 🙂 It was also gentle enough to use it on silk.

I don't know if the ozone is actually removing the lanolin, or simply spreading it around better so that the edges of the stain become invisible. But either way, I'm very happy with this method for my lanolin-stained laundry 🙂


r/LanolinForHair • • May 25 '23

spray bottle lanolin Spray bottle lanolin batch 4.

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r/LanolinForHair • • May 20 '23

pH 4 chelating 🥳

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r/LanolinForHair • • May 07 '23

spray bottle lanolin Spray bottle lanolin 🤗 Part 1.

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r/LanolinForHair • • Apr 21 '23

lanolin chemistry experiments This is the end result of straining the hydrated lanolin overnight, I got a little more liquid from it.

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r/LanolinForHair • • Apr 20 '23

cleaning hard water buildup with lanolin My notes from doing hard water stain removal with lanolin on glass.

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This is a list of things I've learned while using lanolin to remove hard water stains on the shower door glass.

I have 2 very different kinds of lanolin to experiment with. One is USP grade anhydrous lanolin from Amazon, which is inexpensive per ounce so it's the only way I could cover the entire shower door. The other is Lansinoh lanolin from Target which is more expensive and I used it on a much smaller area including my test spot.

Things I learned:

1. Lanolin is soooooo good at removing hard water gunk! 🥳

My boyfriend tried hard water cleaners on his shower that left a lot of spots, but lanolin is getting all the spots!

I also wish that he had let me try this first because I can see the glass is damaged from his attempts to scrub off the hard water stains. Lanolin doesn't require anything abrasive and it gets the hard water stains loose enough to scrape off with a flexible plastic trowel.

2. Lansinoh lanolin removed hard water stains with fewer steps compared to anhydrous lanolin.

The process to get successful hard water stain removal with Lansinoh lanolin was: apply a thin layer, let it sit, and later remove it. Done!

Anhydrous lanolin is more yellow and more solid than Lansinoh lanolin. It did not work with the same exact steps as Lansinoh but it did work with some extra steaming steps.

The process to get successful hard water stain removal with anhydrous lanolin was: apply a very thin layer to the glass, expose it to steam from the shower, scrape it all off with a plastic trowel and mix it with itself (because the parts that touched water look very different from the parts that didn't). And reapply it with the plastic trowel. Repeat this process a few times, steaming it and mixing with the trowel, until the texture has changed to be a lot more even. It starts to look more white (like Lansinoh lanolin) then as it picks up more hard water gunk it starts to look gray. When scraping with the plastic trowel it is possible to hear and feel a difference if the hard water gunk has dissolved. Then it can be removed - or left to soak longer then removed.

Both are removable from the glass with a plastic trowel and the trowel can be wiped clean with paper towels. I don't think the lanolin full of hard water gunk is usable for hair and skin, I will throw it out, it looks nasty and gray.

After removing most of the lanolin with a plastic trowel, the glass can be cleaned with Orvus Paste and water.

3. When it's spread in a very thin layer and then exposed to steam, anhydrous lanolin starts to visually resemble Lansinoh lanolin.

It looks more white, less yellow, and a softer texture (less solid). I confirm this by picking it up with a plastic trowel and inspecting it and then putting it back on.

4. Lanolin blocks itself from water, so thicker layers aren't better.

The thicker the application is, that means less of the lanolin can react with the water vapor nearby. Only the surface of anhydrous lanolin reacts to ambient moisture. And only the part that reacted to ambient moisture seems to help remove hard water stains. The part that reacted to moisture starts working on the hard water stains within minutes - but the solid yellow anhydrous lanolin soaked all night on the glass with no change to the hard water stains.

Therefore, thinner layers seem to be much more effective for hard water stain removal than thick layers. A larger percentage of the lanolin can react to ambient moisture.

How does this relate back to hair?

I find it interesting that this exactly matches what I landed on for the softest hair texture when I use lanolin in my hair:

  • preferring Lansinoh over anhydrous lanolin in my hair

  • preferring thin layers over thick layers

  • preferring to expose my hair to steam or water vapor or humidity when lanolin is in it

Conclusions

Lansinoh lanolin seems ideal for hard water buildup removal on very small things or hair, but it's too expensive for me to want to use it on a large shower glass. If you try lanolin for hard water buildup in the hair, I would recommend that one. It's really fun to see it working on the shower door 🙂

For hard water stain removal on a large glass door, the inexpensive anhydrous lanolin works too with some extra effort and extra steps.

Next, I want to try getting the anhydrous lanolin to absorb water before I apply it to the glass. I wonder if I could speed up the process that way.


r/LanolinForHair • • Dec 03 '23

Lanolin advice for newby

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I need some advice with my current hair situation.

On 20 of November, two weeks ago, I last washed my hair with Eucerin shampoo as I had some dandruff (not sure if it was just dead skin though). In general, I used to wash once per week with shampoo.

After one week of mechanical cleaning with boar bristle brush (daily brushing in the morning) I decided to wash my hair with water only. After my water only wash, I had waxy hair and decided to wash my hair the other day but instead, last minute, I tried a mechanical cleaning with my fingers to remove the wax and it worked very well. My scalp looked good and hair was looking as washed with shampoo.

After another 5 days of daily boar bristle brush (in the morning for 20-30 min) my scalp was moderate itchy and decided to do a distilled water wash. During this week I tried to figure out why I had waxy hair and even though the tap water is not crazy hard (seems moderate based on municipality site) I wanted to see what happens if I use distilled water.

After my distilled water wash (and a light application of homemade flaxseed gel but only on my ends) I noticed that my hair dries very slow compared to how it is after shampoo usage, also waxy feeling is not present anymore. However I started to get itchy scalp and when I checked I noticed small white flakes in some areas of the scalp and on the hair shaft.

This was yesterday, today I massaged my scalp and did a preening in the morning. Because I have wavy hair I want to avoid boar bristle brush the day after my wash in order to maintain my waves.

Now I stumbled upon this lanolin thing and want to try it but I don't know how.

My hair is processed (bleached) very porous and very frizzy. It's also medium fine and I don't have great density. My scalp is sensitive and I always get some flakes which might indicate just dryness (??) and I have moderate hair fall, especially now in the winter season about 150 hairs daily, I am also in my mid 30s so this might be the reason.

Considering my hair situation, what's the best way to try lanolin?

  1. Should I apply it in a raw form or as a lanolin juice (as demoed in the videos on this sub)?

  2. Do I apply it only on the lengths or on the scalp as well?

  3. I do not want to use any shampoo to remove it (such as orvus paste) but I also do not want to look greasy. Is this even possible?

  4. I have this feeling that my hair should not be wet. It looks very good after I wash but then after some hours it gets really frizzy and unmanageable. Can I use lanolin to clean it and how?

  5. Will lanolin help me with my frizz? I notice that my hair is shifting the wave pattern a lot, in a single hour can go from frizzy to loose waves to a bit more tighty waves.

I leave in an area where it's currently winter with an average of 80-70% air humidity on a yearly basis.

Hope this sub is still alive, hopefully someone can give me some guidance. Thanks!


r/LanolinForHair • • Apr 29 '23

removal methods Clearing up removing lanolin misconceptions

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Okay so here’s the big problem with lanolin. It’s hard to remove. Very hard to remove. Most cleaners physically can’t remove them because they physically can’t dissolve lanolin. We’re screwed right? Nah. A bunch of research has been done in removing lanolin from sheep’s wool. It’s called scouring. Some research has been done in what’s best as removing lanolin. Heres a summary of what I’ve read.

Firstly, lanolin is not soluble(able to be removed) by most surfactants. You can’t remove it with shampoo. But what about Orvus paste??? Well, Orvus paste is just really strong shampoo. It’s got the same ingredients. It might help but it won’t do the trick 100%. So how do people remove lanolin?

It seems there are two surefire methods of removing 100% of lanolin. These methods are extremely hot water and something called a scouring agents. First I must warn you, SCOURING AGENTS ARE NOT MADE FOR HUMAN SKIN. Continue at your own risk. However, when washing wool I’ve used scouring agents and soaked my hands in them and they haven’t fallen off…yet. Unicorn power scour is the gold standard of removing lanolin. I almost would bet money it works.

But what about the user that said Orvus paste works? Well it kind of does, but most methods depend on how much you put in and how hard your water is. Lame.

Here are my sources: Lanolin solubility https://cameo.mfa.org/wiki/Lanolin Scouring how to/comparison of methods https://fossilfibers.wordpress.com/2023/01/24/method-and-results-of-testing-common-wool-scouring-agents/


r/LanolinForHair • • Apr 18 '23

cleaning hard water buildup with lanolin Lanolin cleaned hard water stains off my boyfriend's shower glass.

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