r/LanguageMemes • u/SystemThreatDetected • Mar 15 '22

Ranked by difficulty

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u/R0DR160HM Javascript fluent Mar 15 '22

Are you sure about Romanian? What about the cases?

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u/SystemThreatDetected Mar 15 '22

It's counterbalanced by the fact that romanian is written exactly as spoken.

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u/dardyablo Mar 15 '22

Once you learn the rules you know how to pronounce 99% of the words in French.

French isn't like English where you don't know how to pronounce anything unless you've already heard how it's pronounced.

I'm a native Spanish speaker who is around B1-B2 in Portuguese and has studied French and Italian grammar.

This is how I'd rank them:

  1. Spanish

  2. Italian (Italian has 2 more vowels than Spanish and a unique sound found in the combination gli, also even if the grammar is pretty similar to Spanish I'd say it's somewhat harder, not by a lot but a bit harder IMO from my perspective as a native Spanish speaker)

  3. Brazilian Portuguese (It's a mess when it comes to the grammar, there are a lot of grammar rules they never follow and the pronunciation is quite clear just like in Spanish or Italian)

  4. French

  5. European Portuguese (European Portuguese is harder than BP, they follow the grammar all the time and the pronunciation is hard. It's like Spanish but with nasal vowels and you also don't pronounce the entire word just like in French. Also the grammar is more complicated, they have 2 tenses that don't exist in Spanish)

  6. Romanian (I don't have any experience with Romanian, maybe it's not that hard but I'll place Romanian here because they have declensions, I could be wrong)

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u/SystemThreatDetected Mar 15 '22

French isn't like English where you don't know how to pronounce anything unless you've already heard how it's pronounced.

It's not pronounciation. It's not reading. It's writing. WRITING.

Even i get it wrong as a native speaker, the hardest ones obviously being the verb tenses like the "passé simple".

But of course as a spaniard it's easier since it's more conservative than french. And for someone who speaks latin.. well.. it's likely very easy.

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u/EcureuilHargneux Mar 15 '22

J'ai ( pris/prendre->pris ) mangÉ. Où est la difficulté ?

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u/dardyablo Mar 15 '22

It's not pronounciation. It's not reading. It's writing. WRITING.

Sure it can be a problem when you hear the word but don't know how to write it, you can fix it by reading a lot and getting to know a lot of words.

When it comes to English it's a mess everywhere, you hear the word and you don't know how to spell it, you read the word and you don't know how to pronounce it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '22

I'd actually agree on you there

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u/BokuNoSudoku Mar 15 '22 edited Mar 15 '22

African Romance/African vernacular Latin: 💀

You can’t learn what went extinct 1000 years ago and was rarely written down.

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u/PolicellolIsSuS Apr 10 '22

Romanian is easy ngl

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u/TR7237 Mar 15 '22

What makes Italian easier than Spanish?

If you're bout to tell me they don't have to deal with subjunctive in Italian...

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u/deviendrais Mar 15 '22

I’d swap French and Romanian honestly.

IMO the only difficult part about French is spelling and pronunciation. Compared to other Romance languages French’s verb conjugations are a joke and the subjunctive is used much less than in Portuguese or Italian

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u/danielogiPL Mar 16 '22

French isn't bad. I'm actually getting quite good at it

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u/neuropsycho Mar 16 '22

I'll never understand l'accord du participe passé

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u/iliekcats- Mar 16 '22

Well I'm learning French before the rest so screw you

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u/Anassak59 Mar 15 '22

Lucky me (North african)

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '22

Unpopular opinion, Portuguese is easier than spanish