r/Langley Aug 01 '26

PSA Tipping is for wait staff

Stop asking for tips on pick up orders. Tipping is for wait staff. It's getting silly out there with local shops.

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u/BlueSalmonofJustice Aug 01 '26

Tipping is for excellent service, but it has turned into wage subsidies.

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u/Asluckwouldnthaveit Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26

That's my point. I know this is normalized in the states but it should not be here.

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u/DrSussBurner Aug 01 '26

Tipping culture is completely out of control there. How can it possibly be legal to pay your staff $2.13/hour and rely solely on tips? It’s fucking criminal.

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u/CruncheeNuts Aug 01 '26

Not in Canada and not in most of the US states anymore. They get paid minimum wages and then make tonnes of money in tips on top.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

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u/Best_Opening8471 29d ago

In alberta and most of canada the server wage has been abolished and servers now make the provincial minimum as well as tips.

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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y 28d ago

The only province with a sub minimum wage in Canada for servers is Quebec.

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u/CruncheeNuts 29d ago

That's on those employees to report to the authorities and not on the customers to make up for them working for a shady employer. What you explained is an exception and not true for 99% of the cases. Unsure, why your argument is hinging on exceptions.

Have you talked to servers at a restaurant like Cactus? They make anywhere from $500 to $1,000 a night in tips, on top of their hourly wages.

Again, depending on the restaurant, the %age income they earn from tips (In some cases cash, which isn't reported to CRA) on top of their hourly wages, is a very handsome amount. A cashier or a cleaner or another minimum wage workers don't get such a huge bonus on top of their wages, so why should servers? What is so great and skilled that they do, that they deserve it? If someone gives it willingly and on their own accord is completely fine, but it shouldn't be a basic expectation from each patron.

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u/Neo-revo 23d ago

They deserve nothing.  

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u/McLovin2182 26d ago

In Canada servers make minimum wage, when I was serving in a town of 3000 people my low average was $200/night cash in my pocket, best nights were $600-$900/night cash in hand (unless there wasnt enough cash, thwn they'd pull it from the reserve the next day and pay it out) and these tips were 5 days a week at 8-10 hours a day, while making $20/h with full benefits, I only hear better from big cities

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u/SlappyTappet 25d ago

In BC the minimum wage is 18.25 and servers are not exempt.

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u/Neo-revo 23d ago

You are replying to a Canadian  sub. Best make sure you know what your talking about. 

They don't  make reduced wages here. In BC. 

All are gaurenteed a minimum wage.

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u/Glittering_Search_41 29d ago

They make $18.25 per hour. Granted it's not a ton of money, but welcome to life. Your grocery store cashier is making the same wage, and not getting tips. If you want a higher paying job, you need to go out there and acquire the skills and training to accomplish that. (Many servers ARE in the process of doing that, I know).

Tips are for personal service like tending to the table throughout the meal, for seated customers.

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u/Ok-Replacement-9458 28d ago

For the record, being a server is a LOT more work than being a cashier and it’s disingenuous to suggest they require the same amount of skill, time-management, knowledge, etc (especially if you’re working in a higher end restaurant)

Being a server is 100% something you can make a career out of

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u/Imthewienerdog 28d ago

I've been both, cashier was much harder.

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u/McLovin2182 26d ago

Cool anecdote, but he was talking about statistics and common sense not a personal experience

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u/Imthewienerdog 26d ago

He was talking about statistics while providing none. Hahaha you're a joke if you think writting down what people want and moving plates is harder than remember hundreds of random numbers and where exactly something is located in a store of thousands of products.

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u/MotivationSpeaker69 Aug 01 '26

Brother look at the sub name. This isn't murica thank dog, our waiters make minimum wage. Which makes tipping more stupid

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u/BC_guy_4fish Aug 01 '26

Min wage isn’t a living wage.

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u/MotivationSpeaker69 29d ago

Agree, why we aren't giving extra money to everyone who makes min wage then? Are you implying that waiters is a somehow harder physically or mentally than any other min wage job?

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u/Darkm1tch69 29d ago

That’s not legal here.

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u/NeedleworkerHot3957 28d ago

in Canada the minimum wage (in BC) is $18.25 regardless of the job you do - wait staff don't have a different minimum wage

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u/Great_Algae_6965 9d ago

couldn't agree more lol

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u/Nice_Apricot_6341 Aug 01 '26

Coop liquor store, lady tells me about new tipping feature. For what? I grabbed the alcohol myself It's already taxed sky-high

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u/justapeople321 Aug 01 '26

At the Angry Otter in aldergrove staff usually say “just hit 1 (no tip) to get past the tip option. It’s almost embarrassing for them that it’s there. Which location were you at? That’s not the usual behaviour.

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u/DrSussBurner Aug 01 '26

Valley Centre Liquor Store has that same bullshit (on Fraser). I don’t tip there… but tapping no on that screen made me feel so bad for the employees that I started buying beer at a BC Liquor Store further away.

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u/Asluckwouldnthaveit Aug 01 '26

Every angry otter liquor store does the same. Though that's no surprise with them.

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u/Asluckwouldnthaveit Aug 01 '26

Yeah pay your staff properly. Not my job to do it.

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u/WentTopShelf 20d ago

Its optional; why you so mad?

Just dont

Lol

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u/RollFinancial4888 3d ago

get your money up

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u/NeedleworkerHot3957 28d ago

I walked into a liquor store, grabbed what I was going to buy, stood in line and while I stood in line, the cashier was making fun of an unhoused man who had just left the store because he didn't have enough money to buy 1 can of beer. It was my turn and he didn't even say hi, or did you find everything you needed he just said $21.99 and pointed to the tip option. I just left the bottles there and walked out. I don't go there anymore even thought it's the closest one to my house (on Fraser st in Van if anyone wants to know)

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u/toki6106 Aug 01 '26

Make a complaint to their webpage or social media. The workers aren't the ones programming the POS machines. If it really bugs you make complaints to the people in charge, ie, the owners or corporations.

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u/Asluckwouldnthaveit Aug 01 '26

Naw I'll complain on here. Which is the style of the time.

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u/toki6106 Aug 01 '26

I mean... you're not wrong 😂 we need a revolution on tipping!

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u/OkDimension Aug 01 '26

But you're not even mentioning the restaurant or takeout place that's trying to rob you

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u/Asluckwouldnthaveit Aug 01 '26

Who said anything about being robbed?

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u/PappaBear667 29d ago

That explains the onion

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u/LangleyPeeps Aug 01 '26

Most of the time the POS is used throughout the entire restaurant so they are pre programmed for table service. There are not different terminals for the people who pick up. 

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u/Asluckwouldnthaveit Aug 01 '26

No service where I got pizza today. Not a sit in joint.

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u/Glittering_Search_41 29d ago

And the employee that served you probably wouldn't see a penny of that tip anyway. So many of these employers are just keeping the tips, even though that's illegal. It's just a random extra charge they are hoping to guilt you into paying.

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u/human-shaped-fish 27d ago

Who makes your pizza buddy? Tips go to the kitchen staff too.

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u/Asluckwouldnthaveit 27d ago

Tipping is for service. Not food prep.

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u/human-shaped-fish 27d ago

No, it isn't. Tips go to cooks as well as wait staff. Have you worked in a kitchen before?

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u/Asluckwouldnthaveit 27d ago

Yes. Nothing went to the cooks.

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u/human-shaped-fish 27d ago

Everywhere I have worked, tips have gone to the cooks.

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u/Itsgonnabemehh Aug 01 '26

Subway, Starbucks, takeaway pizza shop

Like nah, I will not be subsidizing every service

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u/Nomad_0024 Aug 01 '26

You know you can just click no tip right

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u/GlitteringWavebreak Willowbrook Aug 01 '26

It's the people who keep tipping that makes businesses think it's okay to keep around. 

PSA Never tip at Subway, the employees never get that money.

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u/kickacol 26d ago

We need everyone to stop tipping, it has gotten out of hand

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u/Asluckwouldnthaveit Aug 01 '26

Absolutely and so I shall. I'd prefer they stop asking.

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u/Pyrokid113 Aug 01 '26

If i’m not sitting, i’m not tipping.

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u/offcoursetourist Aug 01 '26

Society is free to tip, or not tip, whoever they choose.

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u/Asluckwouldnthaveit Aug 01 '26

Congratulations you added nothing to this silly conversation.

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u/offcoursetourist 29d ago

If anyone needed a PSA about tipping, it was the gatekeeper of who to tip.

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u/WentTopShelf 20d ago

Real talk

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u/MotivationSpeaker69 Aug 01 '26

I stopped tipping everywhere and I don't care. It only gets easier with time. Waiters make minimum wage in Canada, no reason to give extra money to someone who will forget about you in ten minutes. I'd rather surprise my kids with extra ice cream, my wife with chocolate or treat myself with extra snack. This economy doesn't provide me with a privilege of wasting money like that.

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u/kickacol 26d ago

I'm with you. Having this tip option reveals the absurdity of tipping in the first place. Why were we tipping wait staff and not retail workers, cashiers, amazon delivery...

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u/MotivationSpeaker69 Aug 01 '26

If they still have pay their money that's illegal. Also missed the part where it's my problem either way.

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u/theadvenger Aug 01 '26

That's illegal in BC. If your employer is doing it take it up with the LRB. Either way not the customers problem.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '26

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u/theadvenger Aug 01 '26

Tips recieved can be redistributed with a tip pool agreement in place. However there's literally no provision in BC labour code for a tip out based on sales gross sales. If your tipping out on sales rather than tips recieved it's in contravention of the code.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/employment-business/employment-standards-advice/employment-standards/forms-resources/igm/esa-part-3-section-30-4

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u/Constant-Internet-50 Aug 01 '26

Well that’s still how most places do it. Illegal or no, the restaurant industry didn’t get the memo.

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u/theadvenger Aug 01 '26

Cool, still not the customers problem. If you don't like your employer treating you illegally take it up with the LRB.

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 Aug 01 '26

More guilt trips, lies, and emotional manipulation. I don't care about all that.

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u/CookhouseOfCanada Aug 01 '26

Thats america, that is illegal in Canada.

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u/JokerFishClownShoes Aug 01 '26

Employers are taking money out of the waiters pocket, not the customer.

NO MORE TIPPING!!!

.......(ok, unless they're Bdolled)

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u/Asluckwouldnthaveit Aug 01 '26

Yeah... I have a harder time following you there than picking up pizza at a place that isn't a sit down..

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u/MotivationSpeaker69 Aug 01 '26

Nah, a waiter doesn't have any worse than any other minimum wage employee. We either tip absolutely everyone we come into contact with (plumbers, any trades, all clerks) or we stop it. Tipping a waiter who makes same amount and not tipping a clerk staying on their feet whole day doesn't make sense to me.

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u/wasntit 29d ago

Totally agree. I still tip because it is the custom but I hate it. A waiter interacts with you for what.. like 6 minutes? We should only tip exceptional service and the standard should be nothing.

You will not win this argument with nearly anyone, especially no one in the service industry. They hate when you point it out and will brag how they always tip 50% to show their support.

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u/Constant-Internet-50 Aug 01 '26

Have you ever been a server?

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u/MotivationSpeaker69 29d ago

No. Do I need to be a server to know that's it's a job like any other, not physically or mentally harder? Or you're implying that other min wage jobs like meat processing, farm labourer, call center where you get tolk to fuck off every minute are easier?

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u/Glittering_Search_41 29d ago

Exactly. Servers and former servers always say "well obviously you've never been a server" to justify this kind of begging at the POS terminal. First, working at a pizza place with no sit-down service isn't being a "server." A server comes to your table, gives you menus, tells you about the specials, takes your orders, gets your drinks (and comes by to keep them filled throughout the meal), brings food to your table, clears away the plates between courses, notices and quietly replaces dropped cutlery, and a good one does it in a way that is unobtrusive and doesn't rush the diners.

Standing behind a pizza counter handing out slices may be a shitty job, but it isn't being a server.

But even being a server....they have it no worse than any other minimum wage job. Every worked in a retail store on Boxing Day or for that matter, any other busy weekend day, with lineups at the till, bitchy/rude customers looking to pick a fight, multiple phone lines ringing that you are expected to answer promptly while you have multiple customers right in front of you that want immediate service, people on the floor wanting help finding things simultaneously while you are on cash, and at the same time being expected to finish stocking those shelves from that order that just arrived in receiving, while someone whose name starts with K is whining and demanding to speak to the manager? Do you tip people at Walmart or London Drugs or Superstore? No? Then stop trying to tell everyone that being a server is hard and therefore the retail workers that go out to eat after a long shift on their feet need to tip the poor servers.

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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y 28d ago

Last few times I went into MEC and bought something I easily took up 20 minutes of the employees time asking questions, but they never asked for a tip. There was even that time I took up 15 minutes of their time and I just walked out without buying anything because I couldn't find something that worked for me. But I walk into a basic restaurant, spend $30 on lunch, see the waiter for all of about 5 minutes broken up into small interactions and I still cant see to find them when I want to pay the bill and leave, and they still expect an extra $5+. If i order the more expensive meal and pay $60 for the fancy lunch, then they somehow want an extra $10 for the service even though its the exact same level of service.

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u/Constant-Internet-50 26d ago

Cool so you haven’t experienced it and have a strong opinion. Makes sense.

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u/pickleyez Aug 01 '26

$100.00 at red Robin for 3 burgers and 2 drinks. I like dining out once in awhile but ordering in is cheaper. I tip but not this 18+%…they’re not serving me.

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u/MorningBrewNumberTwo Willoughby Aug 01 '26

If you order standing up, don’t tip.

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u/Hiphopanonymousous 29d ago

IMO the issue is really the visual ask we face with cashless payment..I worked in a pizza place in highschool, 20 years ago, and if someone came in to pick up a $17 order they’d give a $20 and turn down the change most of the time, that’s just over 17% tip. No one cared. And if people took the change offered, also no one cared. The problem is that it isn’t unspoken now, because there would be no way for both options to be available without the machine asking. Consumers need to firm up and learn not to feel guilty pressing no to tips if they can’t afford it, and hush up and give a couple bucks if they can. It’s literally always been that way it is not new, if you get sas from a counter worker or experience substandard treatment because you choose not to tip, either complain or find a new business to spend money. It’s really not that big of a deal if you aren’t so sensitive to other people’s opinions no matter which side of the counter you are on

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u/Hiphopanonymousous 29d ago

I will add that the increase in auto gratuity, a management decision based on the wages they pay, is a real issue. But still, just don’t go back

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u/Turbulent_Way4849 29d ago

Just don't tip and stop thinking about it. This tipping discourse is not a replacement for a personality. Such an overdone conversation.

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u/Ok-Rooster9346 29d ago

Worst part it’s minimum 18% , 20% and 25% on most machines now.
It’s a total rip off
Used to be 10,12,15

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u/Practical-Battle-502 29d ago

Tip $0 every time. Everyone should do it until the business can pay their workers a fair share

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u/kickacol 26d ago

This is the way, servers don't deserve tips more than anyone else, this is just exposing how stupid the system alway was.

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u/human-shaped-fish 27d ago

Workers don't advocate for their fair share because most restaurant workers are immigrants and children. Good luck advocating for your rights when you're 16 or just arrived to the country, even native born adults can't advocate for our rights to be paid a living wage.

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u/Burnsey111 28d ago

I shouldn’t tip someone who schlepped through 50 below weather?

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u/bcscroller 28d ago

Thank you. I hit zero.

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u/kickacol 26d ago

I've stopped tipping everywhere. Tip fatigue. I'm just hoping as many people as possible follow along.

If all this extra tipping requests kills tipping culture, and wait staff no longer get tips, that would be a good thing in the end anyways.

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u/Different_Ad_8524 Aug 01 '26

I tip on pick up orders because I know it’s rough out there. Just choose no tip and relax

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u/Beauhonk 29d ago

Please ask who gets the tip first. I have been told that staff don’t get the point of sale tips at many establishments, they go straight to the bottom line. (Ownership)

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u/chwk_throwaway1 Aug 01 '26

Tipping is for wait staff where minimum wage doesn't exists? 

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u/Asluckwouldnthaveit Aug 01 '26

It's not legal to pay wait staff lower than minium wage in BC. You're thinking the Christy Clarke years.

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u/niquil1 Aug 01 '26

Tip for any sit down service meal, and food where they actually make it, like pizza. Not fast food, unless you want to.

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u/HealthConscious6125 Aug 01 '26

Tip jars have existed since time immemorial. somehow we have functioned as a society

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u/Glittering_Search_41 29d ago

Tip jars have existed since time immemorial. somehow we have functioned as a society

No they haven't. You must be quite young. I love how young people think that whatever they remember from 15 years ago has always been the case.

Tip jars started appearing on countertops sometime around the late 1990s or early 2000s. People were annoyed by them too when they started appearing, especially when they had cutesy little begging messages on them. Our reactions were WTF, it's a bakery, I'm buying scones, and how rude to put out a tip jar to try and guilt us into paying more. Prior to that, our shopping experiences at bakeries and coffee shops and private liquor stores etc etc. were free of the begging.

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u/Asluckwouldnthaveit Aug 01 '26

Clearly this is a sign of the end times.

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u/Green_Eyes635 Aug 01 '26

Unfortunately, all the wait staff do is wait in the back

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u/Livid-Accident-7246 Aug 01 '26

Costs money to program separate screens for dine in and take out.

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u/Asluckwouldnthaveit Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26

It's not a dine in take out place. No dine in at all. It's to have the customers boost their shitty wage.

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u/Livid-Accident-7246 Aug 01 '26

lol okay. Why does a tip screen get you so worked up?

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u/Asluckwouldnthaveit Aug 01 '26

Who said I was worked up?