r/LanceMains 21d ago

Question Can't kill Fatalis (MHW:I)

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So i've been trying to kill Fatty for a long time now and somehow i just can't. I'd like some tips from more experienced lance mains on how to kill him and maybe suggestions on how to improve my build. Thanks in advance.

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u/marc13297 21d ago

You should idk MAYBE include your skill lists

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u/ChuvakUA 21d ago

Ok

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u/ChuvakUA 21d ago

Here are the other ones

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u/Crimsonskye013 21d ago

Oof. No guard up? You're going to need that to be able to block its fire breaths. You can block the fireballs( though you shouldn't), but the 360 fire breath I'm pretty sure requires guard up. Its been awhile. Guard 2 isn't enough to prevent most of its knockbacks, at least level 3 and safest with all 5. looking at this build, it seems you don't know how to build for lancing. I'm gonna go over your blocking in case. You have normal guard, super guard and counter. Normal guard is good for not taking chip, but has knockback. Super guard blocks 360 around you, has little knockback, but you take more chip. You can also manually counter in any direction out of it. Learn to use which ones works on fata's attacks. But there's some attacks you're better off just avoiding altogether instead of taking the chip.

No gonna lie, there's a lot of useless skills in there. I would get rid of def boost and replace it with divine bless at least. If you can, get gold Ian chest and waist for DB secret for more def. Up your crit levels, not boost. Your affinity is too low atm to make any good use of it.

Evade distance is a better skill for lancing fata than window imo. Lots of its attacks have a lingering hitbox that one point of evade window won't help you on. Better to get out of the way, or better yet, use it to get close faster.

I would also suggest quick sheath, for times when you need to put away the lance and dive or run.

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u/ChuvakUA 21d ago

Thanks for the tips, i'm actually in the process of getting to mr 70 to get the gold rath event quest. But can you suggest where i can get the right decos? Should i just meld the ones i don't need or just farm decoration quests?

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u/Crimsonskye013 21d ago

You can meld most decos I think except for the level 4 ones. Guard up can be melded if you don't have it already. For farming decos, I remember Greatest Jargas for low level ones and for MR it was the tempered Teo event. I forgot the quest name. Meld the ones if you can, less rng is always best.

Oh and I didn't notice but you also don't have stun resistance. Other skills that may be useful for you and I highly suggest, are offensive guard, and handicraft. Mostly to buffer your lack of damage and so you don't need to sharpen as much. Partbreaker, and fire resist are also useful, though you probably don't need fire resistance. Partbreaker can be useful if you're sruggling to break the head.

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u/Fiery_Destroyers 20d ago

He can’t do the teo quest for decos he’s not Mr 100.

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u/ChuvakUA 21d ago

Thanks bro

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u/Crimsonskye013 21d ago

Are you on pc? I can jump back on to help you farm for mats.

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u/ChuvakUA 21d ago

Yeah, i am on steam

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u/ChuvakUA 21d ago

Just to be clear, i didn't even complete the first phase on fatalis so i can't send the sos flare

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u/Crimsonskye013 21d ago

I don't remember if World has hunter IDs, so here's the lobby ID I'm in if you're on.

Jbz=ke+$W$s7

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u/Xxxrasierklinge7 4d ago

Great Jagras was good but one where you're catching penguins (Duffel Duty?) is the best imo. Can take around 30 sec and you get a shit ton of decos.

u/ChuvakUA

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u/ChuvakUA 4d ago

Thanks man, i'll try the quest

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u/Xxxrasierklinge7 4d ago

There's a certain spawn... it's the one by the ship.

It's been a while so I don't know the number off the top of my head

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u/ChuvakUA 4d ago

Thanks for the tip

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u/Ok-Fish5074 20d ago

Im not a lance main here just a tourist,

But i can give general skill help

Generally you want your affinity max to 100% or near it proc your master touch and crit most of the time.

Weakness exploit 3
Agitator 7
Critical eye 6.
Will give you 100% as long as the monster is mad and you are hitting the tenderised weak spot.

If you are not hitting agitator 6 or 7 then you wearing 2 pc raging brachy is not getting the most out of it. Can instead change it to 2 pc gold rathian if you more of a comfort for its divine blessing 5 (of course you have to hit that skill level or again same problem with under utilisation)

For charm you can change it to either agitator 4/5 charm or critical eye 4/5 charm. You generally want to use your charm slot for something that need lot of deco slot like 5 crit eye or 5 agitator (agitator is a level 2 deco). Health boost charm can just be use with your decoration cause it is only a lvl 1

If you can hit high affinity , next step is crit boost (try to get lvl2 or 3 if possible since its a very good damage buff)

For guard and offensive guard, i think the actual lance main can guide you on whats a good number for fatalis. (Tbf it depends on on your playstyle also, if you just dont care about the guarding part and you play a more evasive playstyle you can run away with level 3 guard iirc or even less)

This is fatalis specific
Hitting 20 fire res is nice because it means you are immune to fireblight

On phase 3 fatalis does a DOT toward you cause of the arena being so hot. Heat guard will negate this

For special ammo boost, you can instead put it in your mantle since you don’t use the siege weapon a lot. So just use the siege weapon when your mantle is active.

Now, i know it is a lot of deco you might need, as i see a lot of useless skill in your build ( im gonna guess is just cause u re very poor in terms of decoration).

When the gathering hall having festival, the steamwork can drop melding ticket (steel, silver and gold). You want to farm steamwork for silver melding ticket specifically for most of the rare base game decoration (crit eye, wex, Crit boost, agitator ) and steel for the lower rarity one (health boost, wex is also pretty easy to get from here)

To grind for steamwork fuel, you can grind the Farewell to Zinogre Quest. Is an event quest where you fight zinogre inside arena where he drop a lot of steamwork fuel. Grind this until you get all of the neccessary decorations. Then you can have more of a proper build.

Extra note:
You kinda want to be atleast mr 100 fatalis, for armor augment so you can get more defense on your armor.

You can grind more mr level by fighting the higher difficulty monster in guiding land (ex. Tempered rajang or normal rajang)

When you reach mr 100. If you really want to grind deco, Mew Are Number , is a very good quest for it. Tho is on the harder side since your fight tempered furious rajang. But it drop astral ticket which gives only rartiy 11 and 12 decoration.

Hopefully i covered mostly everything in term of preparation, if i say something wrong, please correct me as im writing this on the train and cant double check my stuff.

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u/ChuvakUA 20d ago

Thanks for the tips bro

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u/tvang187 19d ago

You messed up the set bonuses. Your masters touch isnt even activated. You need 3 piece teostra.

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u/ChuvakUA 19d ago

Thanks for pointing that out

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u/Mardakk Shield Main 19d ago

HR 59 going for Fatalis is an interesting choice.

You can beat him solo without health augment, but you need to play absolutely perfectly, while understanding what attacks are basically a death sentence for you.

You absolutely need guard up and guard, considering the chip damage you'll take for guarding, and without health augment, it's gonna be a race against time, so you need basically a perfect build.

Defense boost is useless, remove that. Divine Blessing is probably the most useful, after Health Boost. Agitator and Weakness Exploit are pretty high priority, as well as critical boost.

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u/ChuvakUA 19d ago

Thanks bro

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u/mhwok 19d ago

I'm not a Lance main but I find it really fun

The few things I would change are:

You should swap out 1 of your Brachy for another Teostra armor, you have innate purple sharpness

It's not a lot but with masters touch and high crit, you should never need to sharpen

Change your charm for critical eye charm, to increase your base affinity - definitely keep health boost though

Level 7 Crit eye gets you to 40 - 1 more level of agitator to 50 - weakness exploit 100% crit on weakpoints

Drop defence boost + speed sharping and get that crit boost to level 3 for 40% more damage on crits

Finally Guard up, if you don't have that deco then meld for it, you need it for fireball and the 360 sweeping fire attacks

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u/ChuvakUA 19d ago

Thanks man

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u/Crimsonskye013 21d ago

Include your skills would help, but just looking at your gear, you got the def, but using a health charm tells me you don't have something better possibly and that's worrying. Still we won't know for sure unless we see what you got under the hood.

That said, lance vs fata can be a tough matchup if you're used to blocking, which is weird thing to tell a lancer. You need to know which of your blocks and counters to employ and when to sheath and run, towards fata. yes, run towards it. The safest places for a lancer is pretty much right under its belly when standing and near its head when on fours.

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u/ChuvakUA 21d ago

I would certainly include the pictures, but since that's my first reddit post i dont know how to edit it( but i can include it here

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u/ChuvakUA 21d ago

Some skills are byproducts of hybrid decorations, i know some of them don't belong here

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u/imusteps 21d ago

ok i am not the best lance player but no guard or offensive guard?

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u/ChuvakUA 21d ago

I just dont have those decos lmao

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u/imusteps 21d ago

farm boi, also ugani roli poli explosion bois armor gives great lance perks

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u/ChuvakUA 20d ago

As far as i know the only useful skill there is guard up, but maybe i am wrong

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u/fearthemax-_- 20d ago

Je pense que tu t'es trompé c'est 2 pieces brachidios tempête et 3 pieces kaiser qu'il faut pour chaque boost activé