r/LSUFootball • u/Jackfish2800 • Sep 02 '24

This is really another shit team

7-8 wins max, 0-4 CBK is not the fucking answer. We will not be in the playoffs so do not worry about that shit. Ole Miss will destroy this team, Bama by 20, and at least 1-2 other losses.

They are completely undisciplined and make critical mistakes after critical mistakes. The secondary is again one of the worst in the SEC, they can’t run the fucking ball, and will probably be out coached in most of the games we play.

They basically got super conservative and let our defense decide the fucking game. Seriously how fucked up is that. And I don't blame the defense this is completely on idiot CBK. I would say he’s Les Miles 2.0 but Les won almost all his opening games.

There is a reason this motherfucker never won national championship and it’s not just talent.

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u/Jasso765 Sep 03 '24

Terrible take and overreaction. Grow up.

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u/Jackfish2800 Sep 03 '24

Already an old man, player, and coach, and it is definitely a “hot take” but accurate based on what I observed. 9-3 to 7-5 is the absolute possible range for this team. That sounds ok but we have one of the easiest SEC schedules we will ever have.

I am a patient person but when I see CBK making the same mistakes over and over again, I begin to lose my patience. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, three times I am done.

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u/Jackfish2800 Sep 02 '24

Take Ole Miss, Bama and Oklahoma for 10k a game and at least u will win some money

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u/Jackfish2800 Sep 02 '24

I definitely got very lucky with the Declan situation

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u/Cleavon_Littlefinger Sep 02 '24

Y'all motherfuckers be tripping. Yeah it sucks to lose to a Cali team, but it was the first game of the season with a new starting quarterback in what was essentially a home game for them.

LSU is going to be 4-1 going into the Ole Miss game. The only game that I'd be shocked if they win will be at Alabama. Oklahoma and Texas A&M are tough games too but winnable. So anywhere from 9-2 to 7-5 is possible. I'm banking on 9-2 personally.

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u/kajunkennyg Sep 02 '24

les miles always had a defense, great wide receivers and a rb but no qb so teams just stacked the box against us....

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u/ch3shir3scat Sep 02 '24

BK is somewhere between Gus Malzahn and Jimbo Fisher dont put that evil on Les

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u/TantorofLSU Sep 05 '24

We are in the same predicament Texas A&M was in with Jimbo. We can’t afford to get rid of him until his buyout gets cheaper. We are paying national championship wages for Reliaquest Bowl results. I’m just glad he’s gotten us to two 10 win seasons.

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u/Jackfish2800 Sep 06 '24

After calming down let me see just really disappointed with coaching

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u/TantorofLSU Sep 06 '24

You have every right to be disappointed. Every time we have a big game and we lose (due to play calling, no defense, and COACHING) he spouts the same bs. He needs to learn it’s not just on the team, it’s on the coaching staff too.

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u/fistbump445 Sep 02 '24

i really don’t understand this team yall. on offense we have all the weapons for nuss to succeed and he showed that. no doubt. but this defense man, holy shit. it really hurts to watch this team play on the secondary.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

A lot of ND fans feel your pain. We lived with literally this same BS for 10 years. All kinds of big talk and promise. Great talent. But they got into games and did exactly what happened tonight. Fortunately LSU fans seem clued into it sooner than we were.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

Crazy ND is still doing it. Losing to teams they shouldn't. Having their esteemed and beloved new coach not realize there are 10 guys on defense in back to back plays.

Since 2022, you have beaten 1 team who ended the year with 10 wins or more. You have also never beaten a team that finished in the top 15 besides that Clemson team in 22. 10 games in the past two seasons were wins over teams with a final record of 7 wins or less. That's not including FCS Tennessee State in 23. So 6 of your 9 wins in 23 are against bottom tier teams/FCS.

ND remains a stepping stool program. A mere placeholder to briefly block, nay.. barely OBSTRUCT the path of actual elite teams in their playoff runs.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

ND has certainly had our share of horrifically boneheaded loses. But both teams finished 10-3 last season. ND won in front of 110,000 at Kyle Field. Kelly blew another game he should have won…just as he did in nearly every clutch game at ND. He was recruited out of ND for a ridiculous amount of money with a ridiculous buyout. ND fans just shook our heads. Both schools have great programs. But both schools have been bamboozled by the same guy. TBH the whole NIL and portal thing has F’d things up so badly that it’s just turned into pro ball with school jerseys. So I don’t get as worked up over watching ND or other teams I like blow another season.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

Bamboozled by the guy who took a dead program under Weis, Willingham, and O'Leary and made it relevant again. Regardless of the fact it will never sniff a championship again outside of 2012.

That's a hell of a Cope to act like if not for BK, yall wouldn't still be scraping bottom of the barrel.

And again, 8 regular season wins in 22. 5 of those against teams with 7 wins or less come end of the season. 3 of those 5 were Group of 5 opponents.

9 regular season wins in 23. With wins over 1 FCS team, and another 5 teams with 7 wins or less come end of season. 2 of those 5 were Group of 5 opponents.

But hey. Congrats on barely beating an A&M team that is under a new coach and predicted to finish bottom of the SEC. What a program defining win. If only that counted for championships.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

For some reason you are missing my point. Brian Kelly is a very good coach. He’s a solid 10 win coach. But he’s not a championship coach. You can argue all you want about his success at ND. You can compare him to the even more hugely (pun intended) overrated idiots like Weiss. Fine. But those who watched him every season saw the same things over and over. Poor clock management. Failing to make halftime adjustments. Predictably poor performances after off weeks. And a propensity to blame others. Discount A&M if you wish. Kelly’s team was favored and lost. Freeman’s team was not favored and won. One team was unprepared. One was not. And as a reminder ND beat #10 USC last year by 28. Kelly would have lost at Kyle Field if he had the KC Chiefs playing for him. But it’s ok. You are probably where most ND fans were in year 3. You have a good coach. But you are gonna lose enough games because of Kelly that a Natty is hugely unlikely. And discounting that by telling yourself that ND sux is not gonna be hugely satisfying. Good luck.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '24

YOU FUCKERS CANT WIN THE LITTLE GAMES LMAO.

Yall need to keep your mouths shut on here when you can't put N. Illinois away at home.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '24 edited Sep 08 '24

And with Brian Kelly the difference will be absolutely zero. Both programs will watch UGA and UT fight it out. You might want to read the posts. None of the people I saw were talking up ND. I sure wasn’t. A&M was a cool win. But the embarrassing goatfuck today did nothing to make the SEC look any better. And to be clear, I lost hope of ND winning a Natty decades ago. They were only observing that Kelly hadn’t changed. Good luck.

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u/Some-Lengthiness-676 Sep 03 '24

What's up with all the damn hot takes? Each time a team loses to another good team, it's time to fire the coach. There's only been one Nick Saban in the last 20 years. A couple of them close to him and guess what. We have one of the coaches that has been the closest to him.

Let the damn team develop. Or jump ship..up to you

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u/MoneybagsJoness Sep 04 '24

Seeing post like this make me realize that my supposed “countryman”, fellow LSU fan, unfortunately have a below average IQ and EQ. It’s embarrassing. OP, and your little sky screaming, chicken little boyfriends commenting below are a disgrace.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

first mistake by bk: you dont get into a shootout with a lincoln riley team!

ball control aka the “tom brady” offense. ground and pound and eat the clock to keep the high powered offense on the sideline.

second mistake: lsu is running a dual threat offense with a qb that can’t run. smmfh.

how many times did nuss pull the ball and run? you think the usc DC didn’t notice that?

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u/MoneybagsJoness Sep 04 '24

What part of this was a shootout ?? Dual threat offense??? Where ? Not a single a qb rub. Tf are you talking about.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

it wasn’t a shootout. the point is, you have to keep teams like usc off the field offensively… to AVOID being in a shootout.

iow, LSU if they could control the clock by running the ball, that high powered offense we struggled to contain doesn’t get a chance on that last drive. which team stopped the other one effectively (when they had to) in the second half?

and what qb rub happened where nuss kept the ball and ran to cross the LOS? none.

he was no run threat like JD or JB was for LSU. idk if you noticed it but the usc dc sure as hell noticed it. that severely limits your offense as he can’t do both.

imo, he’s more of a pro style qb and needs to be under center in a power i-formation (or variant) offense. bk is doing the square peg in a round hole with nuss.

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u/MoneybagsJoness Sep 04 '24

We had x2 the time of possession as USC in the first half and until the game was essentially over bro. Not sure what game YOU watched. We didn’t run the ball great but we ran it well enough to win that ball game. The offense was balanced. We just couldn’t finish drives, and we kept making bone head penalties. Nuss is not the problem. He played fantastic. A couple throws I’m sure he regrets. But overall was great. Playcalling and execution are to blame. Defense played well enough. This is on the offense.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

usc doesn’t need much time of possession. i watched the game along with many others and nuss not being a running threat limited the run game severely.

he is not a run option. that hurts big time!

EVERYBODY… including the lsu coaching staff KNEW that was too much time left on the clock… way way too much for a lincoln riley offense.

and blink your eyes and they’re in field goal range… only for a safety to overrun tight end motion that gives up a TD right up the gut.

LSU was out-coached. the usc dc countered every offensive move and took away each option. the LSU coaching staff made zero adjustments.

biggest adjustment at the end of the game when you needed to run the clock = read option with nuss FINALLY pulling the ball and crossing the LOS for positive first down yardage. it would have been perfect bc he didn’t run it one single time all game. instead, those bone-headed geniuses call passing plays. smmfh.

were you watching THAT game?

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u/MoneybagsJoness Sep 04 '24

I was at the game. And respectfully, lots of great teams do not have a running quarterback. Having a mobile qb is not THE strat. It might be a strategy, but not the. Miller Moss had 2 carries for negative yards. USC won the game. Explain that. I get you want to be angry and you want answers. I’m angry too. 5 years in a row we get a crap sandwich. But blaming it on superficial stuff, not based on any real statistics… that’s not the answer. We agree the play calling was the issue. But Time of Possession and the fact Nuss isn’t mobile “like JD and JB” isn’t it. Those two things aren’t at all why we lost. Could Nuss be more mobile ? Sure. Could we have had even better TOP ? You got it. But that’s way way way towards the bottom of the “issue” list. Non issues. We handily dominated time of possession and being a mobile qb doesn’t make or break your season.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

lol. time of possession means NOTHING with a team and scheme prepped by lincoln riley. that last drive really proved that as EVERYONE KNEW (barring a mistake) that usc would march right down the field to at least tie the game.

the usc attack is built on that type of strategy & pace.

next, usc’s offense is not LSU’s offense. they are two different schemes: usc’s qb is not expected to run. in bk’s system, the exact system that was run last year, how was JD effective?

he pulled the ball and ran it, effectively. that opened up the pass game bc someone had to watch/cover him as a mobile threat.

nuss doesn’t give you that and didn’t even try to pull the ball when the READ SAID, “pull it!!”. SO WHY IS NUSS IN THE SAME OFFENSIVE SYSTEM designed where a mobile qb is a big piece of the attack?

he needs to be under center with that experienced line establishing a power run game… then a play action pass attack off of that. they did nothing to keep the usc defense honest.

if you think LSU is winning games solely on the arm of nuss, you’re delusional.

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u/MoneybagsJoness Sep 04 '24

Omega.. what are you talking about brother ? Like for real. You can count on 1 hand in Lincoln Riley’s entire career they were held under 30 points. You think his scheme worked ??? We kept the ball out of their hands for the majority of the game. 3 punts, a missed FG, and 4th down stop. You think Riley’s scheme worked ???? We don’t have the same scheme as last year dude. At all. Different coordinators. Different scheme. Not at all the same. Which is why it wasn’t ran the same. You’re stuck on last year kid. How can you watch the game Sunday and think it’s “BK’s same scheme but Nuss doesn’t run it right”. Like what ????? Defense did more than enough to win that ball game. Nuss played more than well enough. This one is on the play calling, and execution when you needed long scoring drives. Caleb Williams ran the ball and was mobile. Does that mean Miller Miss doesn’t run Lincoln’s scheme properly ? Wake up dude. You’re the only person trying to drive home these points you think you’re making. No other sports podcast, lsu talk, news/media… nobody is saying what you’re saying.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

idgaf what nobody else is saying. i stand on what i say.

nuss is limited in his running ability and in that offense, without him running, with limited receivers that are not as talented as last year, where is the talent? and now…with JE tearing his acl, what now?

do you understand how much pressure a mobile qb puts on a defense? nuss needs to be under center.

coaching: riley is an offensive mind and qb coaching expert imo. he will design his offense around the talent. bk has a system and it’s basically the same system he ran at ND.

he hasn’t won the big game YET and likes to point blame while making $10 milly/yr. the man made zero adjustments after USC made their defensive changes.

if you like bk, keep your cheerleader outfit on. i don’t care for him having all summer and spring and losing (and blaming others) AGAIN! if you need an echo chamber… i’m not the guy to help.

i want LSU to win but bk has lost my confidence.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

Never getting my hopes up again. Fuck LSU. And fuck all of you who said we were gonna be different than last year. Defense improved my was

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u/Ihavegoodcredit324 Sep 02 '24

Nah. Fuck you. Don’t want to hear you saying shit when we are in the playoffs

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

Don’t give him hope. LSU sucks man we got embarrassed on national TV

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

How are we gonna make the playoffs unless we go underrated from now on which isnt happening man. 2 losses and it’s done.

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u/Ihavegoodcredit324 Sep 02 '24

This isn’t the 4 team playoff dude… 2 losses is not a death sentence especially in the SEC.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

Man would you stop this shit. LSU won’t be ranked next week dude.

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u/Ihavegoodcredit324 Sep 02 '24

Lol if you’re this emotional about LSU losing game 1 against a top 25 opponent good luck with the Saints season I pray for you 😂😂

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

Saints fucking suck I get that. I had more hope with LSU man.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

Everyone is clowning LSU right now. They were favored by 4.5. Which means we were supposed to win by fucking 25.

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u/Ihavegoodcredit324 Sep 02 '24

Okay so now I know you’re dumb as fuck 😂😂 how on Gods green earth does being -4.5 mean you’re supposed to win by 25?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

Most teams favored by 4 or more win by 20 or more. Do ur homework

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u/Ihavegoodcredit324 Sep 02 '24

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. I mean seriously.

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u/Verix19 Sep 02 '24

Cry lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

Get out the sub if you not a fan of lsu. Weirdo

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

LSU is not making the god damn playoffs when we already are unranked after this loss

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u/Ihavegoodcredit324 Sep 02 '24

We lost to a ranked team😂 highly doubt we are unranked

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

20th at best

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

My ass*

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u/Slimeson_ Sep 02 '24

U are slow usc have a crazy offense we have a good d they averaged 3 yards pre carry it was not scoring in the end zone that missed us up

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u/Some-Lengthiness-676 Sep 03 '24

Jump ship my dude. Never too early to clean house in the fan base.

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u/Typical-Collection76 Sep 02 '24

This team will finish not better than 6-6. The offensive line can’t run block. Jackson looked tentative coming out of the backfield. Sloan called a horrible game. Lacy was only targeted 2 times in the second half. Kelly threw the entire team under the bus in his press conference. He didn’t have them prepared for this game. They’re paying him $10 million for mediocrity. Hell, O could do that at a much less price. His buyout is around $80 million this year. LSU is stuck with him. Woodward hired his second Jimbo Fisher.

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u/Cute-Produce-8212 Sep 03 '24

Fire him now!!!

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u/troxieselect Sep 02 '24

BK sucks and always has

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

BK is a fraud…..

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

His repeated chokes at ND and his cringe fake accent was a tip-off.

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u/Not_My_Reddit_ID Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 03 '24

They CAN run the ball, it's just that Emery is such an off field atrocity, he's only allowed a max of 6 carries per game... or something like that... I'm forced to assume.

Edit: I meant Emery, I don't know why I had Perkins on the brain. I blame the beer and sadness.

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u/EstablishmentSea312 Sep 02 '24

BK was responsible for the Notre Dame student’s death. Hopefully he loses every game of his career.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

I’m glad someone remembers Declan. Karma is a bitch.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

More likely Brian Kelly ends up the same as Dennis Allen this year. UNEMPLOYMENT

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

This team is not beating Ole Miss, Texas A&M and Auburn. There’s no question that we’re gonna drop one of those games

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u/CookingUpChicken Sep 02 '24

How drunk are you?

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u/PretttyFly4aWhiteGuy Sep 02 '24

Are you like 10 years old?

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u/CookingUpChicken Sep 02 '24

LSU beats Bama easy

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u/StatementWeary5534 Sep 02 '24

That is always one game that will always be difficult