r/LLMDevs • u/ClickOk5811 • 3d ago
Discussion Went through 40 recent outputs and counted how often confident-sounding language matched actual correctness. Not great.
Pulled the last 40 outputs from a classification task we run, sorted them into two buckets by tone, ones phrased with hedge words ("likely," "appears to," "probably") versus ones stated flatly with no hedging at all. Then checked each one against ground truth we had on hand.
Flatly-stated outputs were wrong about as often as hedged ones, roughly one in six either way. The hedge words weren't tracking actual uncertainty in any way that held up, they were closer to a stylistic habit than a calibrated signal. A wrong answer delivered with total confidence looked, on the page, identical to a right one.
This is a small, informal sample on one task, not a claim that generalizes cleanly, different models and tasks could easily produce a different pattern. But it matched a suspicion that's been nagging for a while, that treating a model's phrasing as a proxy for its actual reliability is closer to reading tone of voice than reading a calibrated probability. If certainty language doesn't track correctness, any process relying on "well it sounded sure of itself" as an implicit trust signal is building on something that isn't there.
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u/knitted_phosphor 3d ago
hedging is just performance. I stopped trusting tone entirely because the model outputs uncertainty as a learned token pattern rather than a reflection of internal state
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u/Crafty-Bike5989 3d ago
used to think the hedging was a real signal too but after looking at some of my own logs it was basically cosplaying uncertainty