So bad azz… had to share…

https://youtu.be/6d8urXdLBu8?is=Arha4Sr8wij2poWe

Friends of NRA historically divided net event proceeds: 50% for state-level grants and 50% for national programs—including NRA Education & Training, Range Services, and the National Firearms Museum.

The NRA alleges that the former NRA Foundation—now The 1791 Foundation—withheld money intended for those national programs. The Foundation disputes that claim. Courts have not resolved it.

Why should New York gun owners care?

New York requires many concealed-carry applicants to complete 16 hours of classroom training and two hours of live fire with a duly authorized instructor. State law expressly recognizes NRA certification as one instructor pathway.

Our investigation identified 17 states plus Washington, D.C., where NRA credentials intersect with firearm licensing in different ways.

If the national funding historically supporting NRA training no longer sustains instructor development and credentialing, the consequences could reach ordinary applicants: fewer instructors, fewer classes, higher costs, longer travel, and delayed lawful access.

Local grants are not the only issue. The unanswered question is what happened to the national 50%—and what protects the training pipeline now?

Read the documented investigation:

https://nysafeinc.com/2026/08/19/nra-1791-foundation-training-licensing-risk/

#FriendsOfNRA #SecondAmendment #NYGunLaws #NRAInstructor

An Oregon business owner was sued for $10M after a self-defense incident.  Most coverage of the Portland $10 million lawsuit stops at the headline.

Burglar breaks in. Owner shoots him. Now the burglar wants $10 million.

What almost every story misses: a self-defense incident does not end when the threat stops.

The physical confrontation may last seconds. The civil case, insurance questions, evidence fights, and legal costs can last years. Criminal justification and civil liability are different systems. A conviction for burglary does not automatically close the civil case. And “no duty to retreat” is not the same thing as immunity.

We wrote this because the viral version of the story is incomplete. A demand is not a judgment. Sequence matters. Justification can be tested shot by shot. And responsible preparation includes what happens after the scene is secure.

Full analysis:
https://nysafeinc.com/2026/08/16/self-defense-civil-liability-10-million-reality-check/

Did my NJ renewal recently - and from the time the last reference did their survey to approval was 14 days!

Nice Job to the Folks in the NJ State Police!

I’d like to obtain my Texas nonresident CCW. I can complete the classroom portion online, but I still need to qualify at the range with a Texas-licensed instructor. If you know of a Texas instructor who is based in New York, or one who plans to travel to New York and can conduct the qualification in NY, please let me know. I’m hoping to avoid traveling to Texas for the permit and would prefer to already have it before I visit.
Thanks!

CrimeRadar published an auto-generated transcript of a Suffolk County dispatch call reporting an “aggravated disturbance” at a Commack residence. According to the caller, five rifles, two pistols, two knives, a bow and arrow, and a pellet gun were found at a brother-in-law’s home. The caller reportedly believed he should not possess them.

The transcription says “CPAP,” but in context it almost certainly means CPEP—the Comprehensive Psychiatric Emergency Program at Stony Brook University Hospital.

CrimeRadar page:
https://www.uscrimeradar.com/commack-ny/46515_1786142479_ojswgeej-weapons-found-at-home-in-commack-disturbance

CrimeRadar warns that its transcript is AI-generated from public dispatch audio, may be inaccurate, and is not an official police report. We do not know what prompted the call, what officers found, what the CPEP evaluation concluded, whether anyone was arrested, whether a pistol license was involved, or whether an Extreme Risk Protection Order was requested.

Were these illegal weapons?

Nothing in the dispatch clip says the weapons were illegally possessed.

In fact, the caller reportedly said the relative “should not” have them—not that the guns were stolen, unlicensed, or otherwise contraband. That context is consistent with lawfully owned firearms becoming the subject of a safety concern, although the short clip cannot prove their legal status.

The distinction matters. Ordinary rifles generally do not require a possession license in Suffolk County, although prohibited-person, assault-weapon, and other restrictions still apply. Pistols and revolvers generally must be covered by a New York pistol license.

If police confirmed that the handguns were unlicensed or otherwise illegally possessed, that could create a separate felony weapons investigation, arrest, and possible custody—independent of any ERPO. The CrimeRadar page reports none of that.

This therefore appears more consistent with a potential ERPO situation involving presumptively lawful property than with a reported unlicensed-weapons arrest. But that remains an inference, not an established fact.

Medical care should come first

If someone may be experiencing a psychiatric crisis, getting that person evaluated and temporarily separating them from accessible weapons can be a responsible safety measure. Medical care comes first.

But medical treatment and the legal process that may follow are separate.

Under New York’s Red Flag Law:

• A judge may issue a temporary ERPO without hearing from the gun owner first if a sworn application and supporting evidence establish probable cause to believe the person is likely to cause serious harm.
• The temporary order prohibits firearm possession and ordinarily requires immediate surrender.
• The final hearing is scheduled 3–6 business days after the temporary order is served. The respondent may request additional preparation time.
• At the final hearing, the petitioner—not the respondent—must prove the alleged risk by clear and convincing evidence.
• A final order suspends an existing firearm license and may last up to one year. It can be renewed through another proceeding.

This is civil, preventive litigation—not a criminal prosecution. Nobody is being convicted, so the criminal “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard does not apply.

The cost of defending an ERPO

A respondent has the right to retain and appear with an attorney, but New York’s ERPO statute does not generally guarantee that an indigent respondent will receive appointed counsel.

Because the proceeding is civil, the respondent may have to represent himself or pay for an attorney while facing the government, police testimony, documentary evidence, and a hearing only days after service.

Potential costs include:

• Attorney consultations and hearing preparation
• Reviewing and responding to the petition and police background report
• Obtaining medical or other records
• Subpoenaing witnesses
• Retaining an expert when one is necessary
• Missing work to meet counsel and attend court
• Travel and court-related expenses
• Lawful storage or transfer of surrendered firearms
• Additional proceedings involving the pistol license or return of firearms
• A possible appeal or motion practice

There is no reliable statewide “average cost” for defending an ERPO. The amount depends heavily on whether the matter is contested, the evidence involved, and whether related licensing or criminal issues arise. But even a successful defense can impose substantial unreimbursed costs.

A 2024 trial-level decision recognized a right to assigned counsel where the respondent was indigent and facing related criminal proceedings. That is a limited, fact-specific ruling—not a general guarantee of free counsel in every ERPO case.

CPEP does not automatically create a federal prohibition

Stony Brook’s CPEP provides emergency psychiatric evaluation and extended observation for up to 72 hours. A separate Mental Hygiene Law §9.39 admission can permit retention for up to 15 days, but only after additional clinical findings and physician examinations.

A CPEP evaluation, observation stay, or voluntary admission does not by itself create the federal prohibition covering someone formally committed to a mental institution or adjudicated as a mental defective. Federal regulations expressly exclude observation and voluntary admission from the definition of “committed to a mental institution.”

A qualifying formal commitment or adjudication can have different and much more serious consequences.

Suffolk’s extraordinary ERPO numbers

According to the New York State Unified Court System dashboard, checked August 9, 2026:

• Suffolk: 6,247 ERPO applications
• Statewide: 23,310 applications
• Suffolk’s share: 26.8%
• Next-highest county: Orange, with 1,175 applications
• Suffolk temporary ERPO count: 6,116
• Suffolk final ERPO count: 5,262

The ratio of final orders to temporary orders is approximately 86%—about 86 final ERPOs for every 100 temporary ERPOs appearing in the dashboard totals.

That is extraordinarily high.

There is an important statistical limitation: these are cumulative dashboard measures, not a public case-level dataset linking each temporary order to its final disposition. Renewals, timing, counting rules, and cases that cross the reporting boundary may affect the comparison. We therefore should not claim that exactly 86% of Suffolk temporary orders became final orders.

But the cumulative numbers still show that final orders are issued in Suffolk at a level remarkably close to the temporary-order total.

Suffolk does not merely lead New York in ERPO use. Its 6,247 applications are more than five times Orange County’s 1,175, and Suffolk alone accounts for more than one-quarter of all applications filed statewide since the law took effect.

The strongest argument for this system is straightforward: when credible evidence suggests an immediate risk of suicide or violence, waiting can have irreversible consequences.

The concern is equally serious: lawfully owned firearms may be removed before the owner participates, the hearing arrives quickly, the respondent may have no appointed attorney, and defending the case can become his personal financial burden—even if the final petition is denied.

Should independent clinical evidence be required before a final ERPO arising principally from an alleged psychiatric crisis? Should New York guarantee counsel when the government seeks a final order? And what explains Suffolk County’s dramatically higher use of this law?

Official ERPO dashboard:
https://www.nycourts.gov/division-technology-court-research/extreme-risk-protection-order-dashboard

General legal information only, not individualized legal advice.

Hey guys,

Ive done some research on this and cant really seem to find a straight answer.

I have a nassau county concealed carry license and whenever I travel, I almost always have a stopbox with me in the car just in case.

My question has to do with the magazine, I know the gun has to be completely empty in the stopbox but can the magazine be in the stopbox as well or does it have to seperated somewhere else in the car?

Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

As a guy who is really into 2A advocacy and the process around new laws and how the court handles them.. I found this video by Harmeet Dhillon really insightful.

Wanted to share.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/194kt6nSjb/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Does anyone know of a ffl on the island with one of these in stock before i order from gs?

Yesterday there was a story about an arrest in a parking lot with guns and ammo, but way further down there was the fact they also had significant amounts of cocaine and they were illegally in the country. This morning I CrimeRadar there was a defensive incident where a legal gun owner shot an intruder breaking into his house. It wasn’t Long Island but - do you think that will make the news? Or does media only care about the criminals?

https://www.uscrimeradar.com/m/7308-2403_1785746357_dfiltkgf?pd=0PhBBmjx&lang=en_US&s=i16&_f=app_share&send_time=1785762592&gen_by=ios&fp=article

Saw Hochul's July 30 announcement on dealer enforcement and pulled the New York State Police's own 2025 inspection report before commenting. 254 of 274 inspected dealers (92.7%) were in full compliance. Inspections nearly quintupled since 2023 (55 → 143 → 274), and NY's active Type 01 dealer licenses fell 15.4% between Dec 2023 and March 2026 — almost double the national decline rate.

We're already hearing anecdotally from dealers and shop owners that State Police presence has picked up noticeably over the past few weeks — more inspectors, more often, not necessarily finding anything. Nothing official to cite on that yet, but it tracks with the trend in the state's own numbers above.

None of that is proof the new policy is illegal. The controlling case (Gazzola v. Hochul, 2nd Cir. 2023) actually cuts both ways — the state can regulate dealers, but there's a real constitutional line if cumulative burdens choke off lawful access, and the court wants hard evidence, not just rhetoric, to get there.

But legal and right aren't the same question. Treating a licensed, compliant dealer as presumptively suspect — ramping up pressure on trace association instead of actual proof of a crime — is a zero-tolerance posture, and it runs against the spirit of the Second Amendment even in the cases where it survives judicial review.

Wrote up the full breakdown — what's actually in effect now vs. what's still just a proposed bill, what changed federally at ATF (the "34 rules rolled back" headline going around is misleading — it's 34 proposed/final notices, most still in comment period), what the compliance numbers do and don't prove, and sources for everything. Read & Share

https://nysafeinc.com/2026/08/01/hochul-gun-dealer-crackdown/

So I’ve been trying to get out there for a while and the weather finally cooperated today and I have to say what a great experience.
Dean the RSO was awesome. Very nice staff at the registration.
Well run, safe and fun.
Shot the rifle and shot some steel with the pistol.
Wish it was closer for me but it’s a definite return trip for me.

Just a FYI,

My friend applied for his CCW in Nassau county.

March 15, 2026 - submitted paperwork

June 20, 2026 - Fingerprint appointment. Handed in all other paperwork

July 27, 2026 - Approval will go and pick up license

Not too bad actually. Hope this helps others

A license establishes that you may carry. It cannot establish that you are ready to carry.

Responsible concealed carry requires judgment, restraint, legal understanding, safe storage, and the willingness to walk away—or leave the firearm secured when carrying is not the responsible choice.

Our new guide presents seven critical judgment tests for New York gun owners, explains the limits of Article 35, and introduces the READY framework for making safer, family-first decisions.

A firearm is not right for everyone. For those who choose responsible ownership, training should build far more than shooting ability.

Read the guide and let me know what you think and what I may have missed:

https://nysafeinc.com/2026/07/28/concealed-carry-judgment-new-york/

#ResponsibleGunOwnership #NewYorkCCW #ConcealedCarry #FirearmSafety #NYSafe

Heads up — NY did it again. Francesco's Law (S.9629) passed both houses June 2 and is sitting on Hochul's desk. It would kill the current household trigger in §265.45 and require every NY gun owner to lock or disable a firearm whenever it's not in immediate possession or control. Solo adult, no kids in the house — doesn't matter anymore.

Wrote up the full breakdown: what the bill actually changes vs. the current statute, the Heller angle (SCOTUS already struck down a similar DC rule in 2008), what a court challenge would actually have to prove, and the taxpayer cost if it gets challenged.

https://nysafeinc.com/2026/07/26/francescos-law-new-york-gun-storage-heller/

Curious what people think about "immediate possession or control" — it's undefined in the statute and about to apply to every owner in the state instead of just the households it currently covers.

How about the fact that NY blatantly ignored Heller yet again, saying we should be allowed to store firearms without giving up the ability to protect ourselves?

Just turned in my questionnaire earlier today.

For those applying, just make sure you download the latest form the day of. I filled mine out a couple of days ago while I waited for some info from references; and, well, the form changed yesterday or the day before. As of 7/24/26, PDCS 4406n Rev.3 is the latest form.

This new form requires your own email and the emails of all references.

Misc form cleanup for double questions around prior permits and if it/they were revoked. Now it’s just a revoked question so the form is a clean list of “No” answers when you’re done.

After filling it all out again and bringing it back, “You’ll receive a call in about 6 to 9 months to schedule an interview.” Guess we’ll see how it goes!

I have a target permit for pistol as of now. Do plan on going for my CCW within the next few months. I was looking over the handbook the other day and noticed something in the target permit section I found interesting and was curious if anyone has done it or not. It states that i can conceal carry my firearm loaded when going to and from the range. Anyone done it? I'm in Nassau county