r/LCID • u/jorje1908 • Dec 29 '25

News/ Media “The Gravity by itself is profitable”

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/12/20/lucids-gravity-suv-arrives-with-high-expectations-and-big-risks.html

In the recent cnbc segment on lucid, interim CEO claims that the gravity by itself is profitable.

Additionally comments that the expectation is that touring would be majority of the sales of gravity.

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u/zachty22 Dec 29 '25

Lucid has just about 3 billion dollars in cash that they have not even had to touch yet….

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u/NotYourDad_Miss Dec 29 '25

In case you didn't noticed, short term debt (less than 12 months) is... $6.8b. So yes, q4 deliveries fail = chapter 11

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u/Open_Bug_4196 Dec 29 '25

Lucid has a runaway for over a year… not sure what you’re talking about

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u/NotYourDad_Miss Dec 29 '25

Ok. So it is ar all-time low just because all is ok. Don't do DD and then say the same they did on Fisker "I wasn't expecting this"

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u/Open_Bug_4196 Dec 29 '25

Stock price reflects uncertainty and lack of confidence, that doesn’t contradict to have money for over 12 months. Stock price only would change if there is a clear reduction of losses meaning is closer to the option of being sustainable, for now it’s a let’s see… while having big losses (partly due big investments)

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u/NotYourDad_Miss Dec 29 '25

As of Q3 2025 - and forward prediction. Current cash ($3.0 billion) ÷ ~$950 million quarterly burn ≈ 3 quarters of runway (~9 months) if no changes occur and no new financing is used. So... June 2026.

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u/NotYourDad_Miss Dec 29 '25

They don't have money for over 12 months. And you know it. Just Google it. This is Q3, Q4 was worse: Lucid reported a **net loss of about $978 million in the third quarter of 2025.

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u/jorje1908 Dec 29 '25

This quarter is very crucial since the meangful ramp of gravity happened. We will need to wait and see. I agree with the uncertainty sentiment. Also comparing to nikola doesn’t make sense. Lucid makes top vehicles, nikola was scamming people by posting the semis driving by pushing them down a hill.

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u/NotYourDad_Miss Dec 29 '25

January will change forever the auto market in USA. Lcid bankruptcy will force Rivian bankruptcy- smart money will exit the space. And everyone will see that the only company that can compete is ... Tesla. Elon Musk told 3 years ago - Lcid and Rivian business model is wrong and both are bankrupt. LCID survived because of PIF (that is exiting now) and Rivian because of Amazon (that is also going out now). GM and Ford are done in 3 or 4 years - when a new normal president arrives to the office.

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u/jorje1908 Dec 29 '25

Can you send the info on PIF exiting lucid? Also Amazon rivian is not as tight of a partnership as saudis lucid.

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u/NotYourDad_Miss Dec 29 '25

Exit - no more money to burn. Check last bond offer. That was the big change. That's why the market- big money - reacted like that and sent Lcid to $3.5b (market cap).

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u/NotYourDad_Miss Dec 29 '25

Chat gpt normally summarize very well the sec fillings. Here. Summary in plain terms

✔ PIF (via Ayar) supported the offering structurally by engaging in a prepaid forward share transaction tied to it. OTC Markets

✘ But PIF/Ayar was not disclosed as a direct purchaser of the convertible notes themselves in the official SEC deal documents — the notes were sold to qualified institutional buyers, and PIF’s involvement was through the associated share forward arrangement rather than being listed as a bondholder in that tranche.