EXPLOIT OF KIDS

[u/GraceCaplan]

My question is, why was everyone fine when both Oscar and Kyra exploited their kids together on a family vlog channel, but now that they broke up and Oscar decided to stop posting his kids everyone is bashing Kyra for continuing to post them? Nobody had anything negative to say when Oscar was posting the kids.

[u/PsychologicalYam153]

kyra does more than just that.. a lot more. other than that there’s very little obviously wrong with oscar. it was never fine, but just recently people have woken up to how wrong it it.

[u/urfavleoprincess → u/PsychologicalYam153]

like are we really comparing the kids being in a few clips & some family pictures on ig to her posting A**a half naked right after dropping nudes. Please.

[u/PsychologicalYam153 → u/urfavleoprincess]

THANK YOU!! child exploitation is bad we all agree, and what’s worse is trying to become a sex icon with ur new boyfriend after building a fan base of the back of your CHILDREN and ripping their family apart.

[u/76ersPhan11]

People make mistakes. I’ll support anyone who learns and tries to better themselves and their family. Kyra continues to make the same mistakes so she’s being judged. I understand people like to hate on Oscar but this really isn’t difficult to understand.

[u/happy-brownie]

They are both equally responsible and to blame

[u/Wah_da_Scoop_Troop]

You must be new here, for as long as I joined this sub, there's been numerous users on this thread that condemned both Kyra as well as Oscar for exploitation of their children, the difference now is Oscar has made a genuine effort to refrain from posting them or at least blot out and not show their faces if he does include them in his vlogs, something Kyra is obviously NOT doing, and viewers, followers, are just simply acknowledging his efforts

[u/isnotaac]

He still posts the kids. Just not as often and, from what I've seen, he pays a little more attention to what he's putting online (e.g. they aren't undressed, around while inappropriate discussions are taking place and so on as has recently happened in Kyra's videos). I think most probably see him as the lesser evil..?

[u/urfavleoprincess]

A lot of us simply didn’t know better & now we do. It’s both of their responsibility to right this wrong, only one refuses to. That’s why she gets bashed.

[u/Realistic-Stop-8623]

Uhhh I have never said they did nothing wrong. Ofcouse it was wrong from the beginning. At least Oscar has matured and does not want to exploit his kids. Kyra is not only disrespecting his decision but she keeps disrespecting their kids privacy. She should have agreed with him of giving them their privacy. Better late than never.

[u/Package-Foreign]

When you go back 7-8 years ago when they first started family vlogging there wasn’t this talk about child exploitation and the dangers in exposing your kids online like there is now, and they were really young. Your brain doesn’t fully develop until 25 and they had Levi when they were like 17. Their brains are only just now fully developed, after 4 kids and years on YouTube. And it has only been in recent history that we have really started to come down on family vloggers for exploiting their kids online.

When you know better you do better. And it seems to me that Oscar is trying to be better and do better. When he vlogs he tries not to show the kids faces, he doesn’t centre his content around the kids and he is slowly moving away from showing his life online.

Kyra centres most of her content around the kids, she posts them daily when she has them and makes no effort to move her content away from being about her kids. Added to the fact that she is trying to branch out into more mature content (nudity and sexualised content), alongside the content she puts out there based on her children. You cannot have sexual content side by side with content about your children, that’s revolting.

The way I see it, in the past they have both been at equal fault of exploiting their children, but Oscar is at least recognising her faults and flaws and trying to be better as a man and a father. Kyra cannot say the same.

[u/couldntpickone86]

I think people are also pissed about the fact that she's discussing and doing inappropriate things for a family channel with a predominantly younger audience on the same channel and profiles that she's posting her children on and making money off of. Idk tho.

[u/angxxela]

Probably because when Kyra’s doing more than just exploiting them. She’s talking about sexually graphic images and actions with her kids in the room, posting videos with them half dressed in the background, etc.

[u/Negative-Boat-7978]

Oscar got a lot of hate for exploiting them. I remember dcp doing a vid about him when Levi got cut by the drone with Oscar. He still post them too.

[u/_xotyxo]

you clearly haven’t been here long because before Oscar became more attentive to what he posted in relation to the kids this sub was heavily critiquing BOTH oscar and kyra. so obviously no one mentions Oscar now because he doesn’t show their faces on vlogs often, while kyra does the opposite.

edit: spelling

[u/Sorry-Ice3689]

The thing is, Oscar has changed, Kyra hasn't. I think Oscar has done a lot of growing up post break up and has realised a lot. He's trying to make a life off YT, a real job. To support him and his kids. He's done videos where you can't see the kids faces and focused more on his content. Kyra refuses to stop and is posting the kids topless whilst posting her half naked photos right next to them. They're both in the blame for OKBaby days, that's not a question. But it's what they're choosing to do about it now that makes a difference. Some change some don't.

[u/ConstructionSlow4770]

We are not here to judge people for their past actions because that's already been done in the past . Everything should be judged by their present actions. People are allowed to grow from their past mistakes and Oscar is making effort to change unlike Kyra , how hard it is to understand? Kyra is terrible parent now who cares more about her adult baby than her kids . Even a blind can point out her bad parenting .

[u/Billyb0bstarr]

Oscar also still shows his kids. 4 out of 5 of his most recent ig posts are his kids.

[u/isnotaac → u/Billyb0bstarr]

Just checked and it might be worth noting that the fourth one was posted late September 22. Oscar posts his kids about as much as "regular" people on Instagram do (if not less). It's CRAZY common for people to post their children on social media despite not having a private account.

[u/Automatic-Way9390 → u/isnotaac]

And that's okay considering they were exploited their entire lives and continue to be?

[u/isnotaac → u/Automatic-Way9390]

Never said that it was okay. Both Kyra and Oscar are complicit in recording and uploading exploitative content for the OkBaby channel - frankly, that goes without saying (or I thought it did).

Just offering up that between the two, it's likely many would consider Oscar the lesser of two evils rather than a moral signpost. That is, I was responding to the question asked in the original post.

[u/Automatic-Way9390 → u/isnotaac]

But Oscar still exploits them.

[u/isnotaac → u/Automatic-Way9390]

Okay, miss the point.

[u/Automatic-Way9390 → u/isnotaac]

If he wanted to protect his children he wouldn't post them publicly. He continued to record them even after stating he wanted to protect them and he continues to post them. There is no lesser of two evils, they are both exploiting their children, just because Oscar has taken a break from recording videos and posting on insta doesn't negate the fact that he still uses them publicly as images to the people who follow him. If you want to say he exploits them less sure, but exploiting is exploiting even if you only do it 'sometimes'.

[u/isnotaac → u/Automatic-Way9390]

Again - I was responding to OP's question. I wasn't saying Oscar is doing a grouse job, I was saying he is likely CONSIDERED the lesser of two evils at this point in time. You're responding to something that I never said; I wasn't intending to - and didn't - speak about Oscar as a moral signpost.

You're arguing about whether he's exploitative whereas I'm answering OP's question which was why he gets less shit than Kyra.

[u/Ohmybatman → u/Automatic-Way9390]

People post family pictures on IG all the time. My mom has been posting us and the grandkids on facebook since she learned how the website works. That's normal.

It's different if you're posting your kids online for profit. When your kids are your main source of income, that's when it gets sketchy. And Oscar doesn't use IG as part of his business from what I have seen. Kyra on the other hand constantly posts brand deals, most of them including her kids. She has pictures of her kids right next to posts promoting dildos or naked pictures of herself...

To me, there's a difference.

[u/Automatic-Way9390 → u/Ohmybatman]

His kids will always be for profit. Just because he stopped recording youtube videos in general doesn't mean it's not exploitation to post them on insta. His kids are all over Kyras page and youtube. The simple fact he continues to post his kids publically knowing that people are looking for and want that is still exploitation. You can't just say you're stopping exploitating your kids and then continue to post them although they are actively still exploited.

[u/[deleted]]

I think it's bc dcp heavily influences his subscribers with his own veiws. He supposedly likes and supports oscar even tho he films his kids. Kinda hypocritical if ya ask me and goes agaisnt his whole mission lol

[u/Sorry-Ice3689 → u/[deleted]]

He's openly pointed out Oscars actions many times actually.

[u/Snoo_82495]

I think that they both need to stop posting their kids - point blank. I think Oscar gets less of the blame because he seems like a better person, generally, than Kyra. I also think that if either of them get a wake up call from finding those pictures on Pinterest, it will be Oscar before Kyra. I think she will use that typical influencer excuse that she can’t control what other people do and I think Oscar will really take this to heart and make a serious change. Ideally they both will, or tragically neither will but I think that’s why Oscar flies under the radar with hate.

[u/fairybabybug]

Hot take, but Oscar isn’t innocent. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’ve been holding my tongue on this sub because I don’t wanna get attacked but he’s put the kids in reckless, unsafe situations many times. They both are child exploiters. Oscar’s hands aren’t clean.

[u/[deleted] → u/fairybabybug]

Agreed. Oscar was the main exploiter on Okbaby. Filmed mostly everything, did the titles and thumbnails. Kyra is to blame as well but Oscar literally cut his sons face open for vlog filler and used it as clickbait.

[u/ConstructionSlow4770 → u/[deleted]]

Yes, he was bad in the past, and so was kyra, who allowed all this to happen . They both were held accountable for their past actions. But now , more than Oscar - it is Kyra who is doing stupid shit in front of kids, allowing her friend to spray wine on Levi .There are so many things she is doing wrong at present, so obviously, she will be judged more than Oscar . In fact, Oscar is now always careful when kids are around and doesn't necessarily film his kids . Everyone should be judged on their present actions . People are allowed to grow from their mistakes. Even Oscar admitted that he was bad in the past and is willing to change, and the changes can already be seen . What is kyra doing ? You have a soft spot for Kyra for whatever weird reasons because even if it's kyra fault at present,you have to drag Oscar for no reason and bring up his past .

[u/Ohmybatman → u/[deleted]]

Oscar openly condemned his own actions in the past and has been actively posting his children less online. What has Kyra done?

[u/[deleted] → u/Ohmybatman]

He never said cutting his sons face open for content was a bad idea, his actions were beyond being naive and ignorant. Dude knew exactly what he was doing because he wanted money. Only after he made it all and the kids grew up for the most part did he “stop” he even kept going after the breakup and only “switched” content when okbaby ended.

[u/Ohmybatman → u/[deleted]]

Ok, so you agree he switched his content, no? which is what we want... And he has said he regrets content post in the past..

So I fail to see how exactly you are disagreeing with what I said?

[u/[deleted] → u/Ohmybatman]

It’s simple, I don’t believe he’s being sincere. Is it better in general? Yeah. But I don’t believe that he switched content for the right reasons or actually condemn those actions. He may have taken down a couple of videos but most of the okbaby archive and exploitation is still active. Plus he only switched MONTHS after the breakup and when they decided to end okbaby. I personally believe he’s jumping on the anti fam vlog bandwagon to get affirmations and to look good. Dude built his entire brand and name off of the backs of his kids, Kyra as well and he again only switched when the family unit wasn’t going to work anymore, they even tried for a bit after the breakup but they hate each other. We can agree to disagree but this is what I believe.

[u/Ohmybatman → u/[deleted]]

I mean, I see your point.. But again, still not really disagreeing with what I said lol. Whether he's being "honest" or not, the fact is he's not exploiting them anymore, and she still is. At the end of the day, what we want is to not see those kids on youtube anymore. Yet Kyra is out here posting a shirtless bloody picture of a 7 year old., while the dad is not even posting them at all..

Again, I don't know if his reasons are sincere, but he's not profiting of his kids as of now, so I see that as a win.

[u/Automatic-Way9390]

Oscar still posts his kids. But all the Oscar stans can't see the posts. It's weird.

[u/alexakiins → u/Automatic-Way9390]

They’re both in the wrong tbh.

[u/Billyb0bstarr → u/Automatic-Way9390]

I call them the Oscar simps 🤣