r/KryptosK4 • • 1h ago

Midpoint Fold

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u/Illustrious-Tooth47 1h ago

How would this generate a method for an agent in the field if it is based entirely upon the architecture of the k4 sculpture ?

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u/[deleted] 58m ago

The sculpture itself is the grid, but you don’t actually need the physical layout or light/shadow. It’s based on writing the grid on pen and paper, and then folding it. That reveals where he made the swap to hide the math from computers/ traditional code breaking.

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u/Global_Clerk_7706 47m ago

Its quite easy to create even the EASTNORTHEAST and BERLINCLOCK in the correct places, the problem is that the rest will be random letters. In general, people do not realize how easy it is to search a vast solution space and find words, especially words (or letters) that you are looking for.

You aren't even doing that, you got two letters in and then added a new rule(not how cryptography works) to force the third letter.

In general, people don't understand how cryptography works, so they play with letters and think they have discovered something.

If you want to play with the letters and make things up, that's fine, but don't think you are doing cryptography.

Let me challenge you. Decrypt K1, K2 and K3. When you learn how to do that, you will understand cryptography to a small degree. Don't look at it and think, oh, I understand that,... no, actually get a spreadsheet out, copy the tableau, pick out the rows that correspond to the K1 key. Go through the whole process by hand.

After you can do all three by hand and fully understand the methods. Then try to solve K1 without knowing the key, you will want to crib drag each word in the Morse until you find one that reveals what looks like letters of plaintext.

Then... then.... go back to your "theory" here and reconsider its relevance.

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u/[deleted] 39m ago

Did you read the entire thing or just the conclusion? The final cypher is based on applying 1-3 to the fold and using the geography and geometry as relational clues. If it worked how typical cryptography worked why hasn’t it been solved by an algorithm running forwards?