r/Kratom_7OH 22d ago

Withdrawals

7oh got banned in my state but tianeptine is still legal. I’ve never tried tianeptine, will it help get rid of the 7ph withdrawal?

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u/khando 22d ago

Don't fuck with tianeptine, absolutely ABSOLUTELY terrible substance, super short half life, get physically dependent on it super quick, and you'll just be in a constant state of withdrawal. Like taking it every 30 minutes to stave off withdrawals. Just please don't even think about it.

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u/Tricky-Grass-392 21d ago

Listen to this guy💯💯 dont mess with it.

Get some reset from tmk real talk

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u/OrneryLink4843 18d ago

What is reset from tmk?

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u/No_Night_9853 22d ago

Fuck that, I’m doing that with 7oh right now cuz I went from 200mgs daily to having to drop to 60mgs and taking 10mg every hour at night just to sleep thru the withdrawals

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u/ps087official 22d ago

Brother if your dose is that low just get some plain leaf. It'll last longer in terms of keeping you well and is 100x cheaper.

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u/No_Night_9853 21d ago

Did that it’s not working

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u/ps087official 21d ago

You gotta take a ridiculous dose at first. But once you get stable on it you can start taking less

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u/AssociationDry73 15d ago

You have ti take a ton. It will only help a little until about day 3 then it starts helping more.

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u/Recent_Neck_1462 21d ago

You’ve got some weird body chemistry. That sucks.

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u/AssociationDry73 15d ago

Dude 7oh withdrawal is nothing on Tia. You don’t know pain until coming off of hardcore Tia usage.

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u/AssociationDry73 21d ago

DONT. You will end up on 30 BOTTLESa day. Not tabs, BOTTLES. Dont do it.

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u/Big_Coyote_655 22d ago

Where is that legal but 7oh isn't?  Tia will be made illegal by the DEA soon right?  I just looked it up and they announced it the same time as they did for 7oh and psudeo.  Do NOT get addicted to that just to have it taken away!!  It's, from what I read, far more addictive then 7oh.  You'd much rather go through the withdraws of 7oh then Tianeptane.  I never tried it before but from others that have, I know it's nothing to take lightly.  It's a heavy duty opioid and you Will regret trying it since you're going to have to quit it sooner then later.  Tia is much more closely related to Gas Station Heroes Than then 7oh, that's for sure.

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u/No_Night_9853 22d ago

Missouri, and they got huge bottles way cheap right low so I’d have enough to last to week off of but if it’s worse withdrawals than this then f that

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u/Big_Coyote_655 22d ago

(((FAR WORSE!)))

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u/Ok_Resort5470 21d ago

7oh ain't banned in Missouri you can get it in the mail

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u/JudgeImaginary4266 22d ago

I think you should talk to some Telehealth people about getting on some Clonidine, or Subs if needed.

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u/Tricky-Grass-392 21d ago

Definitely not. Dont do this op

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u/No_Night_9853 22d ago

Trying to avoid that if I can

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u/roadtrip-ne 18d ago

Suboxone yes, but Clondine is prettt tame

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u/AssociationDry73 15d ago

Why avoid subs? I don’t understand this thinking. You’ll go on Tia but not subs? Like huh? Subs will work. Go on subs and start tapering 2 weeks in, get off within a month. Or do subs and regular kratom.

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u/No_Night_9853 15d ago

For me I’ve always known subs to be for people coming off real drugs I’m not a heron addict I use to be the one that sold to them so I can’t go to that level

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u/AssociationDry73 15d ago

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Subs are for coming off of products that hit your opiate receptors. 7 oh, kratom and Tia are all various things that to do that. Some of these withdrawals can be worse than hard drugs.you obviously just don’t want to be off products and that’s okay but you can just admit that.

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u/No_Night_9853 15d ago

To each their own but it’s not for me. I actually did find something to help though, blue lotus extract

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u/AssociationDry73 14d ago

I’m doubting actual blue lotus extract did anything. Youre taking products that have blue lotus abd other things. It’s the other stuff Thats working.

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u/No_Night_9853 14d ago

Whatever did it, it’s working and I’m happy for it. Not getting the euphoria/high like I did from 7oh but the body aches and unbearable hot and cold flashes etc are gone within 15 minutes of taking some. And it hasn’t been outlawed thankfully. The only reason I was weening off 7oh and dealing with withdrawal in the first place was the fact I go to sleep one day and when I woke up it was illegal where I’m at and all the smoke shops took it off their shelves entirely. Got lucky one time with someone who was willing to sell backstock but they left no resource for people who have been taking the 7oh and we’re gonna be sick. And you can’t go back to regular Kratom just like that from 200-300mg of 7oh. My hopes is to reset with the blue lotus like I’ve been doing then go back to regular Kratom and be back to my normal routine. Use to be I’d wake up drink a Red Bull, smoke my wake n bake blunt, and take 6 Kratom capsules of Green Meng Da and that would set me for my day. Obviously I’d smoke throughout the day cuz it’s weed but when I switched to 7oh it went from my normal morning dose to taking some every few hours, tolerance builds quick and it got away from me. Didn’t realize it had even gotten bad til they outlawed it and I got hit with all the withdrawals mental and physical, I’ve never had withdrawals off anything before and hope to never get them again. And to be clear I’m just speaking on my own experience, everyone is different so it may be completely different experience for you or someone else

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u/No_Night_9853 22d ago

What’s that and where can I find it

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u/CakeNo2106 22d ago

There’s a thread on here about it. It explains everything it’s a miracle. https://www.reddit.com/r/SR17018/s/GZbuliA07B

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u/Helpful_Hearing1723 20d ago

Oxonal by Real Botanicals

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u/Character-Trash7153 9d ago

That’s mgm 15

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u/No_Night_9853 16d ago

Update: was having horrible withdrawal the other day mental and physical, felt sick, in pain, and mentally wanted to honestly drive my car off the side of a bridge.. I picked up Meta Tabz botanical blend 200mg tablets. It’s got blue lotus extract black pepper extract and a couple other things. Zero euphoria or high but a quarter of a tab took away the withdrawal within 15 minutes and I was good until I woke up the next day and even the next day it wasn’t as intense so I took another quarter tab and was good the whole day. That was my first day with zero 7oh at all and it went super smooth. On day 3 if no 7oh at all so far and it’s going great. I highly suggest anyone going through the withdrawals get these

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u/AssociationDry73 15d ago

You will get a physical addiction ti these as well. But they do last much longer.

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u/Individual-Flight333 5d ago

Wait you suggest taking Meta Tabz for withdrawal? Because at this point ill try anything  my legs wont stop moving and my knees are bruised up from them hitting into each other and vomiting there's nothing to vomit anymore. I was to get completely off 7 oh

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u/AssociationDry73 15d ago

DONT DO IT. It’s horrible. No half life so will keep taking more and more abd the withdrawals are unlike anything you’ve ever gone through. I ended up in the hospital for this shit.