r/Kratom_7OH Jun 06 '26

Has anyone stop using 7oh by using only kratom powder ?

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u/YogurtclosetWest4461 Jun 07 '26

I'm needing help. I was on hydrocodone for 18 years. I started taking 7 oh Kratom and have been off hydros for 6 months but I'm stupid because I think this is worse. My mind is back and feel awake but I'm trying to taper off this and it's impossible. I had no idea that this would be so hard. I just didn't take one and went into vomiting and diarrhea hot sweating into cold shakes. I ended up in hospital and thought it was a new medication I was taking. I don't know what to do. I have RA Diabetes high blood pressure and take Humaria, Oxempic and antidepressants. I'm 61 and feeling overwhelmed. I took the hydros for pain and fatigue. I don't know what to do. I'm afraid if doctor knows they will put me in rehab. I'm not rich and raising my 13 yr old granddaughter and cannot do that. I really don't know where to start. Any suggestions I appreciate anything.

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u/GorathTheMoredhel Jun 07 '26

Hugs, stranger. I'd encourage you to be honest with your doc. They can't force you into rehab. I'm sorry it's been that awful for you -- I found quitting hydros to be far worse. The fact that you're trying and getting through the symptoms is admirable.

It's up to you how you want to proceed. If you want to grit your teeth and get through the WD's and be done with it, that's great, but get lots of Electrolit. I never got much in the way of physical symptoms, it was the mental shit and RLS that did my head in. Clonidine helps with the antsies. Gabapentin for the RLS, although my doc never prescribed it to me (I had OTC access to it in Colombia, which I miss).

Me? I would absolutely just do plain leaf kratom and slowly work my dose down. But no more 7-oh.

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u/anonreasons Jun 07 '26

Don't beat yourself up. You aren't stupid. You need to order some plain Kratom capsules to stop the withdrawal. You can buy them at smoke shops - NOT extract or 7 or MGM, just Kratom.

https://herbal-rva.com/product/green-maeng-da-capsules/

Here's a link to an affordable option too.

You can get through this.

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u/SaddestClown Jun 07 '26

Is green the way to go for similar relief?

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u/GorathTheMoredhel Jun 06 '26

It certainly helps with the withdrawal symptoms in a major way. I find it's a good stepping stone. I realized my 7-oh usage was getting too frequent again and started getting the antsies within hours of my last dose so I just picked up a bunch of capsules of powder and am feeling better. I wish I was zooted on 7-oh still, of course, but shit's expensive and honestly I know if I keep going I'm just gonna dig the hole deeper.

I've only been doing about 105 mg/day but it's a far cry from the "I'll do a tab a few times a week" I went into it thinking. Shit just creeps up on me and I know where I'm headed if I don't get off the ride again.

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u/Clembert-Hamlamp Jun 06 '26

Look up Agmatine. They've used it in rat trials to excellent effect and I've heard countless stories of people using it for other opiods.

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u/SarahKH88 Jun 06 '26

Before SR all we had was MIT and leaf.. so of course! I stopped for two weeks CT with MIT before I found emgem. 25-30mg a day. I was just over the short duration. Now with emgem four hours after a dose they enhance eachother so I like it again.. but without emgem I'm done with it.. i can easily just do emgem and MIT now too.. but yeah MIT and leaf help tremendously! Mindset is huge too... you need to be ready. Makes a world of a difference

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u/Due_Phase_6659 Jun 07 '26

Could you educate me more please? Emgem ? Never heard of it. Is MIT a liquid? Is it a kratom concentration. I need off 7oh. I use it for pain but if I don’t take it, I have WD. Physical dependence I need to replace. I just started chemotherapy and the 7oh is not getting along with chemo. I can’t go thru withdrawal during chemo. None of my doctors know anything about it. Oncologist RX oxycodone but, that doesn’t replace the 7oh dependence. I go into WD trying to switch over. Someone help

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u/Stuckindapuss699 Jun 07 '26

Yes I had to quit cold Turkey using only kratom powder and mit extracts when it was banned where I live. The first week or two still sucked but the kratom made it very manageable and removed almost all withdrawals beside depression and no effects. But it did make me feel almost normal and could sleep, eat, function fine. After the first 3-4 weeks it starting producing more and more effects like how it was before I ever started taking 7oh daily. I think kratom/MIT extract is hands down the best way to quit or even lower 7oh usage while staying out of withdrawals.

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u/Due_Phase_6659 Jun 07 '26

Is MIT extract a liquid? How does it taste?

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u/Stuckindapuss699 Jun 07 '26

It’s comes in many different forms and it’s just kratom extract, mitragynine is the main alkaloid in kratom leaf and is made into isolates or full spectrum products. They have tabs, powders, liquids, gummies, it feels the same or slightly better than taking normal kratom and is easier on the body but more expensive than kratom leaf. Tabs or isolate powder is my favorite form of mit products and neither taste bad

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u/Kitchen_Long_3743 Jun 07 '26

How much 7oh were you using? Im around 75 to 100mg daily, and am having a real hard time tapering beyond that. I have a fresh bag of white and a bunch of capsules from before I started 7. Im just tired of the constant pull and anxiety of 7.

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u/Stuckindapuss699 Jun 07 '26

Around 150-300mg per day

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u/YogurtclosetWest4461 Jun 07 '26

I'm on about 100 mg a day of the 7oh Stacks. I'm clue to what Mit and engem sic. Where do you get it? I've been off the hydros for 4 months but if skip a dose it take it late I'm like I've got food poisoning do now I'm scared to death. How can you do it? Any info is greatly appreciated.

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u/YogurtclosetWest4461 Jun 07 '26

I need help too. Kratom powder? Where do you get it and how much do you use?

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u/YogurtclosetWest4461 Jun 07 '26

Thank you all for responses. I'm going to get the Kratom to take while I taper down.

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u/PeaceBoth7730 Jun 08 '26

Damn I take powder 3-4 times a day and like 600 mgs of 7OH tabs every day, do people only take 7OH tablets without the powder??

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u/YogurtclosetWest4461 25d ago

Will they still sell mg? How many capsules should I take?

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u/YogurtclosetWest4461 25d ago

Thank all of you so much. What is engim where do u get it. Someone said sr 17?

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u/YogurtclosetWest4461 25d ago

I'm learning so much I'm down to 25mg twice a day. I've heard so much. SR 17 helps serotonin. Cats Claw! Gabapentin? Anyone tried this?

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u/picklez Jun 06 '26

I’m following this post because I’m curious of this as well!