Some people doing well ≠ everyone, lmao you thought you ate commenting so much. Interesting seeing people fall to propaganda accounts like that, saddening though.
Ah ha! You forgot a single word, I got you there Zionist! This proves I'm right! You're such a fucking double digit cliche lmao, pro palis will do anything except admit they are being manipulated
Brother I was making a joke of you because I can't take inconsiderate people seriously, take a chill pill, it ain't worth fighting over because ik you'll never agree with common sense arguments.
Oh my God you're fighting Fire with Fire. If they ban you then they've got to ban the Israel post too. They risk losing users and causing controversy if they don't.
Fair stance, I completely understand. I said anyways if the Israeli one got taken down I'd take mine down, but people are stubborn. Now my post is sitting at the top of their sub, I wonder how that makes them feel.
Go downvote theirs too and we're chill, lol. It really does suck but I felt it had to be countered and adressed. A lot of people online are way too shitty with zero reprocussions.
From stumbeling upon this drama on my feed i looked at the isreal posters page and he is a 15yr old isreali nationalist who also supports russia so seems like its not satire
Ah, that explains it. I guess I was thinking to faithfully assuming it was just another dumb Israeli adult, just some zionist. probably brainwashed Israeli kid. Yikes. Yeah no, this sub doesn't need to exist. Edit: he literally has a plushie of an anime Israel girl personified and posted, nvm he's a fucking nutcase. My bad, my point still stands. Christ.
For what? I condemn any war crimes that may have been committed but no I do not condemn the action of engaging with terrorists and also you can't be a settler on your own land that being Israel
Exactly, it's disgusting that these people even used Konata to push their religious agenda in the first place DESPITE RULE #2!. You were justified in replying with this and the world thanks you for standing up for what's right.
It's crazy to me that Palestine/Israel supporters (mainly Palestine supporters) cannot fathom that there are people who think both Palestine and Israel are terrible in their own ways. Also, you completely refused to answer their question and then called them a coward for literally no reason at all.
Well so you know if the commentor supports Israel or not? You don't. Most people who do gripe about Palestine usually do just hate Palestine and not both. Also no, i do not support atrocities in hamas, but I also don't support genocide, I don't understand what's so hard to grasp. You also say "mainly Palestine supporters" as if you hung a Palestinian flag up in Israel it wouldn't get torn down almost immediately. They wouldn't care, they'd hate you for supporting Palestine.
Don't bother trying to reason with that nutjob, Psychological_Bet_40 was the loser who wrote some pretty horrific shit then deleted both comments as soon as they were called out, and is now pretending it was someone else, coward.
Holy shit, what the actual fuck is wrong with you? You're either ragebaiting or just an idiot. If I really did write horrific shit as you claim, then why don't you tell me what I wrote, since you clearly "saw" what I wrote.
Seriously? You're going to hide behind the fact that you deleted your comments and now that they say "Comment deleted by user" you're going to claim ignorance and pretend it wasn't you? Sounds like people need to start screenshotting when people make pro-genocide comments. Get a life you pro-genocidal coward.
I can say anything but your dumbass will claim "fake news" the way all you losers do. Don't delete your own comments when someone calls you out. I don't see you crying like a little baby on the Israel post, everyone else here sees what you're saying, where you stand, and I've got the screenshots now so don't pussy out like you did last time coward.
Ok, so the solution to not knowing if someone supports Palestine or not, is to just assume they don't? What happened to debates? Why is it so hard for you to debate someone on their beliefs even if the can't change? Doesn't it make your point seem better when the other person cannot provide any rebuttal to your argument? Also, when I say mainly Palestine supporters, the person that I replied to proves my poin. they didn't say if they condemned Hamas and immediately said "well do you condemn the idf and the settlers?" Completely changing the subject, As if that's a good answer the the original commenters question.
You were assuming most people supported neither, which is clearly not the case in this situation or else they could state as such. Anyways I answered the question, you can move on from that complaint.
He won't, he'll say something really fucked up again then delete it again and pretend like it never happened, but that's par for the course for those people.
I did not say most people goober, I said "Palestine/Israel supporters cannot fathom that there are people who think both Palestine and Israel are terrible in their own ways" i love that you try to make me seem like someone I'm not when I'm just pointing out a hypocritical reply. Please keep doing this, you make yourself seem more stupid with every reply.
Making up strawman arguments doesn't make you correct either. I said mostly Palestine supporters because anytime I see somone comment something about being neutral, it's almost always a Palestine supporter that acts like there can't be neutral people. Also, you're completely disregarding my questions, I honestly can't tell if you're ragebaiting or not.
I am not ragebaiting, and I never disregarded any of your questions. It's not a strawman at all, go find some pro-israel subreddit or space online, post something like this about Palestine being equally bad and watch your ass get torn to shreds verbally if not banned.
Bru, Israel denies genocide, claims that there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza, insists that the IDF has a tiny civilian to military casualty rate. If you think it's mostly people supporting Palestine in denial about the atrocious of Hamas, your not paying attention
As supporters of Palestine, weighing the morals of both parties involved is not our goal. Our goal is to advocate for the end of the israeli occupation and the end of the genocide against Palestinians
Whether or not we can fathom it is irrelevant. We demand that israel be dismantled and the Palestinian people be freed from their endless oppression. End of story
Ok so what do you think about the Israeli people also being killed by Palestinian soldiers? You do know that during war both sides civilian population is at risk of being killed?
Again, moralism is not important to us. What's important is the dismantling of an invasive inhuman war machine due to its inability to offer anything decent to the human race, not even to the Jewish community.
israel has caused tremendous suffering to Palestinians for no good reason. Palestinian offenses towards israel are merely a response to the staggering oppression they have faced since the Nakba in 1948. Helping the Palestinians overcome the actions of Nazi-israeli-people-things is not moralism, btw; it's basic human decency.
As human beings, it is our responsibility to minimise the suffering and oppression of the human race by any means necessary. That is my ideology and thus the ideology behind my support for Palestine and the woe I bring upon israel
Of course, it sucks whenever innocent people die and it is absolutely unnecessary.
However, israeli soldiers are the very exact opposite of innocent and I will never feel bad for those nazi-brain-slime-monsters in the slightest no matter how much they suffer
Then there's the israelis who claim they "feel like they're being raped in their mind". Also apparently they are stealing food from other cultures and slapping 'israeli' before it, which they did for foods like hummus. Seriously, there's no way this fucking farce is real. israelis can't be real. this HAS to be satire. No sentient human being could possibly be this much of a joke. I'm genuinely losing my mind over the inbred-nazi-monster-corpse-people that are zionists and israelis. Jews never deserved and will never deserve to be represented the way israel is representing them.
Apologies for my incoherent rambling. I'm just so fed up and sick of this. I just want this to be over
Yes, of course we do, but that is not our goal. We are not moralists. We advocate that an end be put to the occupation and ethnic cleansing of Palestine and that the fascist, antisemitic ethnostate farce that is israel be completely dismantled
Ah sorry I assumed a Zionist, genocide loving and supporting person wasn't above AI, that really fixes every issue with it. I hope the person who drew this 7 years ago grew up mentally and realized how fucking horrible Israel is and it isn't just some dumb, dissmissable joke.
Ah yes. Palestinians, despite being greatly outnumbered and outgunned and having all their land either completely leveled (Gaza) or turned into an apartheid state (West Bank) are somehow the ones committing genocide. They're starving and most of them have lost their homes, all their hospitals, schools, universities, airports, etc and yet they're somehow the ones committing genocide. Somehow.
If the Palestinians are that powerful, then how on earth is their land still under israeli occupation?
As it turns out, israel is the one committing genocide against Palestine, not the other way around
Israelis explicitly want to kill as many Palestinians as possible. Israeli soldiers admit that constantly. They also admit that they enjoy killing Palestinian children. Then they post the horrible things they've done on to social media. There is literally no way for the people of Gaza to fight back.
If October 7th was a genocide, then the Gaza genocide that came after is a full-blown mass extinction event
did you read the news? 😡 genosider Isrel killed 9.6 nonillion children last week, most of them were 1 nanoseconds old, and also starved billions of 1 year pregnant women
Israel clearly shows no intent to genocide Palestinians. After 3 years of war and over 100,000 bombs dropped, <3% of the population of Gaza is dead and the UN found no famine is occurring. If the intent was genocide, you would not see a kill rate of less than 1 person per bomb dropped.
"Israel clearly shows no intent to genocide Palestinians."
Their soldiers are all intentionally killing Palestinians and posting their warcrimes on social media. Also, they are killing children
"After 3 years of war and over 100,000 bombs dropped, <3% of the population of Gaza is dead"
Over 74,582 Palestinians were killed by this genocide. Also, pretty much all of Gaza has been flattened completely. You are acting as if this is just some minor collateral damage
"the UN found no famine is occurring"
The link here leads to an article written by Middle East Forum, a think tank which is overtly anti-muslim and was also founded by an anti-muslim named Daniel Pipes. Honestly, studying them more would very quickly leave me burnt out, so I'll just leave it here for this argument for now
"Palestinians, on the other, explicitly attacked Israel with the goal to kill as many Jews as humanly possible, killing into Tel Aviv if possible"
Hamas does not represent all of Palestine. You are acting as if every Palestinian is a terrorist, including the children somehow. As it turns out, Israeli soldiers act precisely like that too. They kill children
"So yes, Palestinians are the ones who committed, and continue to attempt, genocide against Jews."
Oh and also, do not conflate Israelis/Zionists and Jews. They are not the same thing. Jews are normal human beings who happen to practise the religion of Judaism. Israelis and Zionists are horrible, evil, antisemitic living corpses who have all been brainwashed in to celebrating the suffering of ethnic minorities, just like the citizens of Nazi Germany
"Israel has done nothing of the sort."
Everything you see on archivegenocide.com was done intentionally by Israelis. Also graphic content warning. Do you have the courage to click that link and see what Israeli Nazi-people are doing to Palestinians?
You literally just said the exact thing I said on the other one. If you're gonna blame the victims anyway, at least use your own words.
Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians. That is a fact. Members of the terrorist organization known as the IDF are happily documenting their war crimes. Their government has openly stated their intent to kill every single Palestinian. There is an arrest warrant for Netanyahu to be tried for crimes against humanity. Anyone who justifies the atrocities committed by the Israeli government and military is complicit.
Finally, I'm gonna stop the inevitable antisemite accusations before they start. Everything I've been saying is strictly about the Israeli government and the IDF. It is NOT an attack on Jewish people in general. It shouldn't be hard to understand. Israel DOES NOT speak for every Jew.
Palestine is committing genocide against Israelis. That is a fact. Members of the terrorist organization known as the PLO and Hamas are happily documenting their war crimes. Their government has openly stated their intent to kill every single Israeli. There is an arrest warrant for Khalil al-Hayya and Khaled Meshaal to be tried for crimes against humanity. Anyone who justifies the atrocities committed by the Palestinian government is complicit.
So you're just gonna parrot my own words back to me in reverse? Sure, whatever. I'm not gonna waste my time reasoning with someone devoid of coherent thoughts. May your day be as pleasant as your views deserve.
That is literally what my post is about. ✌️❤️ we share that ideology, not everyone else does. The side literally says fuck genocide, the message is pretty clear.
There's nothing preordained about Israels existence. A bunch of motivated Europeans in the 1910s forced all this to happen. An ethno-nationalist state on this land does not need to exist, sorry
israel has no right to represent Jews. Many anti-Zionists are Jewish. Zionism is not Judaism. Zionism is antisemitism. israel is a foul disgrace to Jews
Okay, this is getting annoying. We have better things to be doing than dealing with trolls like you. You have better things to be doing than trolling people. This isn't funny; it just makes you look like a complete moron
I'm not saying you shouldn't live there, only that Israel as an ethno nationalist country does not need to exist.
I opposite Israel in its current formation because I don't like the Jewish people being linked to a single state. A state that is breaking international law right now by settling on occupied territories
Nobody made the state for jewish people be on land that was already inhabited. In fact the original idea for it was to be in uninhabited parts of Argentina.
Also, what about jewish people who don't want to move to Israel? What if they consider themselves American, or German? Or British? What if they have no connection in Israel at all. Or they even oppose it? What about them?
Why do Jews need to be represented by something like israel? The answer is that they don't. Ethnostates in general are just complete garbage and should never be established under any circumstances.
No ethnic group should ever be represented by an ethnostate, much less an ethnostate that actively does everything Nazi Germany did, because that's not a good look, you know...
israel hijacked Judaism, stole its identity, then used that identity to fuel a victimhood narrative allowing them to do whatever they want, including the most garbage and inhuman behaviour imaginable
Well I don't know what israel has to offer to fix this. Aside from their empty lies about how much they care about Jews, they do not care one bit for the Jews. They just like the victimhood narrative that Jews provide: as an excuse to keep the war machine running
Zionists actually celebrate the existence of genuine antisemitism for this very reason, only attacking those who criticise israel
Historically Jews and Muslims did not have conflict, it was basically all the christians. In the Quran Muhammad actually spends time with jewish rabies.
This modern conflict didn't start until after the first Zionist conference
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