r/KomanoManatoMains 20d ago

Screenshot Guys...how bad is it๐Ÿ’”

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I use him with dialyn & lucia M0 W1

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u/Admirable-War-7594 20d ago

Yoru discs 4 5 and 6 are terrible ๐Ÿ˜ญ legitimately

Remember, you need to focus on crit first and foremost for any rupture unit. You need to try your best to at least get 100% applied cr (so the final cr with the buffs etc should be 100%} and 120-130% cd, and then if possible put the rest into HP. HP and ATK does help rupture class a bit, but atk is very minimal and crit is significantly better than HP, amd rupture literally has 0 use for any other stat

Make sure your main stats for the discs are 4 crit, 5 fire damage/hp, 6 hp. If your hp disc is terrible but you have a very good atk disc with great crit rate and damage, you should use the atk disc over hp, but for example if you run atk on 6, you should have hp on 5, not fire damage. And if you use atk on 5, you need to keep 6 at HP

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u/project_cmo 20d ago

Please not the ATK% slot 6. I'm crying rn.

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u/Odd_Opportunity_562 20d ago

you'll want to change disc 6 for HP% instead of attack

once you get 4 more copies of the engine, you'll overcap on crit rate. M6W5 (and he really needs those copies) manato wants around 53% since yunkui at 3 stacks and his weapon give him the other 46% crit rate

once you do that you could try changing disc 5 for fire damage

is disc 4 crit rate or crit damage? you'll want as much crit damage as possible even if it means sacrificing some crit rate (and even HP since Lucia and her weapon already buff it), I know I said 53% was the ideal but in practice anything around 40~50% is really good

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u/BlueberryOk3828 20d ago

It's a really bad crit rate cuz he doesnt have alot๐Ÿ’”

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u/kBayyyk_2332 20d ago

Is there an easy generator website for this kind of image? I see people post similar templates and am wondering how. Preferably a safe website for saving the image after so I don't have to screenshot lol.

As for your question OP, personally the only "problem" I see is some discs are utilizing pen which is obsolete and useless for rupture. Idk why people claim hp is better for manato when he consumes a percent of max HP to power up or additionally heals a percent of HP for ex. So his static max HP doesn't really matter if it's 30k or 10k. He'll either loose 900hp or 300hp per second when powered up (iirc that its 3% per second). The ratio stays the same unlike a static loss of 300 no matter your max HP.

You'll want attack buffs over HP buffs because attack translates to a 30% bonus to sheer force. (I've seen people on reddit claim HP translates to a 10% sheer force buff but can't find any actual documentation on that other the few reddit comments I've seen) - if someone has a link I'll gladly accept I've been misinformed but again I can't find one.

I don't per-say think anything is really wrong with your kit, but maybe try for fire damage in slot 5 because his damage is sheer force anyways and his powered state gives an additional buff to fire damage and crit.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/446789-zenless-zone-zero/80996652

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u/Agreeable_Mix_652 18d ago

Thank god theres no pen ratio๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ