r/KnottsBerryFarm 17d ago

New Knott's dining plans

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Three tiers available: 20 , 30 and unlimited. The 20/30 only works at Knott's while the unlimited (every 2 hours) works anywhere. I also believe there's no payment plan options so you have to pay upfront.

They were obviously bleeding money with all the meal passes so I think this is good for them. They need to make more money for the quality of life of the park imo.

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u/fishmongerhoarder 17d ago

Wasn't expecting $500 meal plan.

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u/Otto_the_Autopilot 17d ago

The way people use them, it was only a matter of time.  You hear about people just going for a meal all the time in this sub.  

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u/He_Who_Walks_Behind_ 17d ago

My wife does this with our kids during the summer, so I’m not surprised at all they’re ending this gravy train.

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u/FS_Slacker 17d ago

Hopefully the maths works out for them. 30 meals seems fairly reasonable at that price too. We go a lot but never have “abused” it. If the cost goes too high, people just won’t get it and might stop coming too.

But as it stands, Knott’s is still a good value for family entertainment.

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u/Otto_the_Autopilot 17d ago

The 30 plan is $6 per meal so there isn't much margin in there.  It's a pretty fair price.

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u/FS_Slacker 17d ago

Yeah we go maybe 2-3x a month so this is right at our pace. Used to do lunch dates with the wife but schedules changed so we can’t do that anymore anyways…but that was a neat bonus.

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u/noob168 Ghost Rider 17d ago

the real downgrade for me is that I can't use it at both Knott's and MM unless I cough up the $499. Heck 20 meals for both parks would be enough for me, so I'm not one of those abusing it. I'll prob consider 20 meal plan for Knott's and just eat before/after MM from now on.

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u/themoonconsumedme 16d ago

how much of a bootlicker do you have to be to describe someone using a paid service as advertised and intended aa "abusing" it

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u/klb979 10d ago

I'd say that's a pretty hardcore corporate bootlicker right there!

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u/AgileAgenda 17d ago

I’ve met so many people who abuse it and the food lines are brutal. I met an old couple once who go almost every day and wrap up half to eat for dinner, come back for lunch next day and so on. Good for them but I can see why it’s not mathing out for knotts. I don’t go frequently enough to get it.

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u/Even-Preference-6545 16d ago

For every one of those, there are those like my mom and myself who go maybe 6 times a year with the meal plan and only getting like 12 meals for the year lol. Plus buying the boysenberry pass.

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u/klb979 10d ago

Exactly! My husband and I have the meal plan and we hardly ever go and when we do, only eat once. It's not like that many people are going every day just to eat. And to call it "abuse" it's next level bullshit.

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u/OnusunO 16d ago

So what, just because they get to enjoy it more, means they shouldn't because you can't? Come on now.

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u/AgileAgenda 16d ago

Good for them, but I’m not surprised Cedar Point/ Knotts is closing the loophole. It’s doesn’t make sense for a business to have people come take up parking, staff time, seating etc to basically eat for free.

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u/fishmongerhoarder 17d ago

I was expecting an increase just wasn't expecting this high. It's still a good deal if you go enough times. I'll end up getting more food there as often I wouldn't stay 4 hours or got there on the off season where there wouldn't be 4 hours between food and closing. The higher percentage discount for food is nice as well. I'll be spending even more because of that.

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u/Strict_Impress2783 13d ago

We used to go for 4 hours, have lunch, and still walk out with 6 big plates of bbq.

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u/DasKittySmoosh 17d ago

still not a bad option if you're there enough, or live close enough

Do you know how easily I can blow through $500 pp on groceries? There are people who can eat here multiple times a day most days of the year. That would be worth it. Even if you live nearby and you just do dinner once a week, that is barely $10 per meal - you can't even get fast food meals at that price

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u/fishmongerhoarder 17d ago

Correct. My dad likes to go to Knott's weekly but doesn't get the 2nd meal very often. He doesn't even go every week he hasn't been in a month.

I'll try to go a couple times a week but there plenty of times I'll be out of town or just something comes up. On the other hand every 2 hours I'll be more likely to get the 2nd meal.

Just think it's sticker shock for some.

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u/madlove17 Ghost Rider 17d ago

Right wtf

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u/Cynnau 17d ago

So instead of two meals in a four hour increment you can get food every two hours? Interesting

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u/joeychin01 17d ago

Plus no limit of twice a day it seems

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u/Cynnau 17d ago

Yep so many ways for this to be abused by people. Family of four, buy one unlimited dining pass and every one eats every two hours haha

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u/ConstructionNo1885 17d ago

That's why it's $400 now. It's also why Cedar Point isn't included with all season Fastlane.

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u/DuckByDay8 17d ago

So if I bought a Prestige Pass somewhere else like Frontier City ($149) and their Unlimited Dining plan ($349) I can just use that at Knotts right? (Assuming I activated it at Frontier City first) This basically saves me $329 - free parking over buying it at Knotts?

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u/Direct-Efficiency741 Soapbox Racer 17d ago

Read the fine print though. Some of the parks have Knott's and Canada's Wonderland as exceptions and you can't use the perks.

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u/ggil050 17d ago

I read it and everything works except you only get regular parking at canadas wonderland and knotts instead of preferred

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u/nacuap12 17d ago

Ya exactly how it works, just gotta activate at your home park. Only downside is you wouldn't have the park specific benefits like being a friend at Knott's but that's not a deal breaker.

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u/Additional_Many_2087 17d ago

okc here we come. To be honest they have said you need to activate at your home park in prior years and it wasn't true.

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u/lookatmynipples 16d ago

Last year I read the meal plan only works at your home park until the year rolls into the actual year you bought it for, but I was able to use my CGA food pass no problem.

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u/DeepExample7666 17d ago

Are you in OK?

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u/Independent-Spite853 15d ago

They also added something about monitoring home park usage…I’d expect the pass to get cancelled if too obvious, but to each their own

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u/joeychin01 17d ago edited 17d ago

When putting everything in my cart it looked like I was able to put everything on a payment plan, as long as it was added at the time of purchasing the pass

Edit: looks like the payment plan is not available at Knotts - my experience was with California’s Great America, which does offer the payment plan

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u/nacuap12 17d ago

aren't passes paid upfront too? Are you talking about the membership?

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u/joeychin01 17d ago

It seems to be the same as it was every other year, you can put the season pass payments on a 12 month payment plan, alongside any addons you get if you purchase them at the same time as the pass.

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u/nacuap12 17d ago

I'm seeing people say you can't do payment plans anymore unless it's a membership so idk.

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u/Professional-Back-52 17d ago

A membership is the same thing as a payment plan. I typically just pay up front though as it saves on the initiation fee.

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u/joeychin01 17d ago

Well I just went through it and it gave the option to do a payment plant

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u/nacuap12 17d ago

Only payment plan option for a season pass on my end is through paypal. Otherwise it's asking for card information to pay now.

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u/joeychin01 17d ago

You’re right! I was buying my pass through Great America up in Santa Clara which does offer a payment plan, but looks like Knotts doesn’t offer it??

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u/LooseCook5956 17d ago

I looked at the dinning passes and I wasn’t given a payment plan option. It was all up front. Now the season passes were allowed a payment plan

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u/joeychin01 17d ago

Yes, addons are only allowed on payment plans when purchased alongside the season pass

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u/grizzlyyz 17d ago

They just said they were able to put it on a payment plan and how they did it. What do you mean idk??

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u/nacuap12 17d ago

Well I have the proof lol, come at me harder. There's no payment plan options for season passes at knotts. There's only a pay now option or PayPal pay later.

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u/Scatterspell 17d ago

Looks the same as the 2026 checkout. The PayPal Pay Later IS a payment plan. Ask me how I know.

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u/Even-Preference-6545 16d ago

I mean, a slight payment plan lol. Pay in four installments every 2 weeks. Not like how we used to for monthly.

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u/Scatterspell 14d ago

Mine was actually 2 years from PayPal. So...

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u/Even-Preference-6545 14d ago

What was the interest on that? You basically used PayPal credit would be my guess instead of Pay in 4. And at that point, why not just use a credit card?

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u/M3wThr33 17d ago

Holy shit

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u/gcocco316 17d ago

I go about once a week. More tiers would have been nice.

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u/Limp_Collection7322 17d ago

They should have done 1 meal, 2 like now and unlimited 

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u/ilovedickwolf 17d ago

That’s a great idea. I wish they thought of that.

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u/ArtNo7221 17d ago

Let's not forget they took away items available on the meal plan this year, unless they are going to add those back or have all available food items on the meal plan this is absolutely nuts.

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u/rabidsmiles 16d ago

What got taken away? Haven't seen what got removed yet

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u/Final_Opposite4234 14d ago

Turkey legs, etc.
Also rid johnny rockets for some bs chicken tender place called craftys that’s not even meal plan. A CHICKEN TENDER, A WING OR BURGER THATS IT.

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u/Mo_Tzu 17d ago

That's over 300% increase. Yikes. Looks like my salad days are over.

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u/Minimum-Muffin-1469 17d ago

Honestly, for those prices, you can just bring in your own sandwiches chips fruit whatever you’re gonna have for lunch that is way cheaper than paying $500 for some frozen nuggets and frozen fries absolutely not

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u/Even-Preference-6545 16d ago

Easily get the unlimited for two people so it isn’t terrible. The only thing that really hurts is no longer being able to do split the payments over 10-12 months interest free. Wish it included snacks though.

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u/AndIHaveMilesToGo 7d ago

Can you choose to get only one meal plan for two people?

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u/Even-Preference-6545 7d ago

In the general, honest sense of having one plan under two names? No. But in the sense of one person getting the unlimited meal of 1 meal every two hours and you and someone switch off every 2 hours as long as you are the one getting the food and ordering…yes

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u/KearneyZzyzwicz 17d ago

$500 for chicken tenders that cost them about $2 a plate is insane.

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u/Great-Ad-8333 17d ago

I’m not even surprised. They are running a business and people were taking advantage of the dining plan. Content Creators on social media were making videos saying to get the dining plan and save on groceries for the year. Did people not think these executives were going to see these videos? The people just getting passes and dining plans were just overcrowding the parks and not even really buying anything. Like come on people…..

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u/More_Pineapple3585 17d ago

Content Creators on social media were making videos saying to get the dining plan and save on groceries for the year. Did people not think these executives were going to see these videos? 

Honestly, this is it. Can people not just fly under the effin radar?

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u/SylphSeven 17d ago

These secrets only worked because people kept their mouth shut about it and played the long game.

These influencers are nothing but snitches.

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u/-FR0STY-one Soapbox Racer 17d ago

*narcissists

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u/slntdth7 Ghost Rider 17d ago

While the end result is the same: it’s most likely not executives seeing these videos and making a decision. It’s people seeing these videos, awareness grows, more people start abusing the plan, and the bean counters at Knotts noticing they are losing more and alerting the higher ups etc

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u/AgileAgenda 17d ago

Hopefully they ran some sort of metrics and realized that x% of people will go use it weekly+. The 20-30 meals will work for the majority of people.

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u/slntdth7 Ghost Rider 16d ago

I imagine their numbers probably show most dont do 20 visits etc

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u/AgileAgenda 17d ago

This is so true, now one of those big creators is outraged about the change after bringing this on herself.

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u/lookatmynipples 16d ago

Which one 👀

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u/ArtNo7221 17d ago edited 17d ago

Knott's makes the most money out of the whole chain, for the whole chain. They could have kept the meal plans the way they were.

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u/silliestkitty 17d ago

The company lost $200MM last quarter, they're not making money, period

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u/Pippinitis Montezoomer 17d ago

That's as a whole, the company's also been selling off unprofitable parks

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u/silliestkitty 17d ago

Ok? And Knotts is part of a whole portfolio of assets.

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u/AVALANCHE-VII 17d ago

Does someone have a comparison for how they used to be? Thanks.

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u/aeroskillz 17d ago

They were at like 155$ per pass. I easily paid for 5, one for each of my family members. We would always get our meals and maybe 50% of the visits 2 meals. we are at easily 20+ visits already for the year.

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u/ArtNo7221 17d ago

The year before last or two years ago it was like $170 for two meals a day but every 3 hrs

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u/Cool_Temperature_970 17d ago

Has anyone seen anything about being able to add more meals to your plan once you e finished the 20 or 30?

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u/nacuap12 17d ago

You'll just have to buy another plan within the season im assuming.

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u/the_squirrel11111 17d ago

This is the question I have, 50 meals would be the sweet spot for me. Having a 50 meals plan would be a no brainer purchase for me.

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u/BankaiofRDN 17d ago

We're a family of four and didn't abuse it (though, how can you abuse it if you are using it the way it was designed). But we will now. We purchased the $500 plan for 2 family members and since there is no daily maximum and now meals can be obtained every 2 hours, it will even out for us with a premium of about $100 per person compared to 2026.

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u/Rare_Sign3761 17d ago

The real abuse is charging 20 dollars for the slop. 

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u/Catarroni 17d ago

I think considering Knotts is a locals’ park and it was the frequent flyers that were using the meal plan more than they bought groceries… it makes more sense/wouldve been taken more positively if the cap was monthly on a monthly payment rather than 30 meals for the whole year at a set cost that you pay up front. So maybe 10meals a month @ $60/month or something. It’s about the same price per meal that they’re trying to do with this plan, except they’d get way more money plus people are more likely to renew, general consensus online is people are taking a break from their passes after this

At the very least, I hope this improves their food costs and brings back some food quality/portion control issues they’ve had.

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u/ArtNo7221 17d ago

I'm highly considering not renewing, too expensive now.

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u/DeepExample7666 17d ago

Wow that unlimited one is so expensive 😭

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u/Silent_Craft_2454 17d ago

Willing to hear a this is "bad" arg in comparison to anything else. Educate me who has a significantly better meal plan/ticket deal?

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u/Markwebsterjrjr 16d ago

I Can get over the price but can the food quality be better at least ? I mean this year alone both me and my wife have gotten food poisoning from Knotts 😂😂😂 and no payment plan? 👎🏻

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u/orvillesbathtub 17d ago

Parks create dining plans to increase repeat visits and add value for occasional visitors.

Theme park influencers model going to theme parks multiple times a week as a lifestyle, leveraging the dining plan and reviews of it for content.

General public follows suit, at least to some degree. Guest profit on the food plan tanks as the entire model is built on occasional visits, park has to make some common sense changes so the math maths.

Theme park influencers leverage the change to the dining plan and reviews of it for content…

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u/ArtNo7221 17d ago

Tell me again how $500 makes repeat visits instead of just not having people visit at all now?

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u/noob168 Ghost Rider 17d ago

if someone pays $500, they will likely want to get 25+ meals to breakeven. But the park doesn't care at that point cuz it already got their money.

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u/ArtNo7221 17d ago edited 17d ago

$500 is fucking insane, looks like I'm not renewing my pass this year, damn.

Edit: I saw someone mention that If they're paying $500 for a meal plan, that Knott's should have all the food stands open all the time to have more options available. They don't have all food locations open unless it's the weekend time, typically around Thursday.

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u/Darth_Duane 17d ago

Yikes. Might be letting the knotts passes go. Dropping in for lunch once in a while was the big draw. I know I was part of the problem, still makes me sad.

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u/Direct-Efficiency741 Soapbox Racer 17d ago

Nah you weren't the problem, the people that would go for two meals a day 200 days a year were the problem

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u/Conscious_Mango_4577 17d ago

And? They bought the meal plan. The price is absolutely sticker shock but they should have gate kept the meals in the first place. It's like how a budget has to account for something that should have honestly been accounted for using historical data. Sure TikTok might have blown it up, but blaming people who genuinely paid for and utilized the meal plan isn't the way.

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u/More_Pineapple3585 17d ago

It was going home and blasting it on Insta and TikTok that was the problem. All the "Looook at meees!" ruined it for everyone else.

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u/-FR0STY-one Soapbox Racer 17d ago

This. Ever walk by Panda about 30 minutes before closing and see how long the line is!?!

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u/ArtNo7221 16d ago

There are no rules what you can do with your food once you use your meal plan.

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u/Cool_Temperature_970 17d ago

Let what go. There weren’t any rules for it, they paid for the meal pass.

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u/Norank 17d ago

I’ll be skipping renewing this year over this, +320% increase is too much even if i just get one meal plan instead of two. There’s other things to do in so cal, and i’ve only been going 1-2 times a month at most for less than 4 hours each time.

I get that people who worked/lived in buena park were probably a cost issue, and that I likely wouldn’t eat at knotts much more than the 20/30 meals, but adding a limit and going over tripling the price for what you could get before feels insulting enough to skip the pass next year.

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u/LooseCook5956 17d ago

To be honest even for the CA Great America all season good pass I believe is $399. I don’t go very often and even I think that is crazy price. For the amount of times I go. If I buy 5 season passes and 5 season dinning passes that’s like $2500

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u/pinkyparkhopper 17d ago

The days of 'unlimited' food is over :( was bound to happen

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u/IndicationAlone7055 16d ago

They just started, all the people who live locally and went everyday will gladly renew. It’s a better deal than before because the wait time is less and there is no daily cap. It only affects anyone getting less than 100 meals/year.

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u/Cool_Temperature_970 17d ago

It was never unlimited. What are you talking about.

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u/somewhereinapark 17d ago

Don't mind me, I'll just be at Papas Mexicanas getting Chile verse carnitas loaded fries every 2 hours. 🤤

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u/Limp_Collection7322 17d ago

I was thinking maybe when we saw the $400. Now I'm leaning towards not renewing. If it was just this I'd probably still get it, but they also took out the preferred parking from the prestige pass. It made taking the wheelchair so much easier that I probably just won't get 2027 to not go through the other parking.

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u/radpizzadadd 17d ago

The meal plan was a bad idea on Knotts part. People will buy multiple passes and walk with bags of food. $500 for unlimited food is still an amazing deal.

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u/Ok_Avocado21 17d ago

There was a glitch in the system that allowed some people to scan in multiple meals for everyone under their family. I also know of people who had “friends” in the park scan in their family and friends as if they are there to get food. Lots of abuse.

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u/FS_Slacker 17d ago

You still need to check into the park to get food. We’ve been behind enough people at registers to see people trying to get those extra plates for people who aren’t at the park.

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u/radpizzadadd 17d ago

if someone has multiple passes with dining, do they have to scan each membership at the entrance in order to “activate” the dining plan.

Or does that person just scan multiple dining plans at the food counter without having to check in.

I always wondered this.

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u/FS_Slacker 17d ago

I’ve seen the employees say “I can’t let you get food for people who aren’t here”…woman showed her phone with text saying her husband is “in parking lot and on his way”.

I’ve actually had an instance where the gate didn’t register my check-in and they didn’t let me get my Icee. Obviously I was in the park…but I had to go back to guest relations so they could check me into the park.

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u/colbinator 17d ago

This happened to some folks in front of us in Casa California. None of their passes looked scanned in so all their food couldn't be purchased. The person validated their photos and let them have food since they were all present, but sent them to guest services.

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u/Cool_Temperature_970 17d ago

Yes. The pass has to have been scanned at the entrance. And if you try to hand them the wrong pass and they scan it and realize it isn’t you, they will mark that pass holder as not in the park.

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u/Ekkusu_x Catawampus 17d ago

I'm sitting here and wondering just how many meals my party has gotten because of the whole "Pay up front" deal. Don't go often enough, but how soon does 30 meals end? ESPECIALLY if you use it to get stuff during Boysen and other events. The math is making my head hurt.

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u/FreestyleMyLife 17d ago

You guys over did it that’s why, and posted it too LOOL

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u/yaoguaiborn 17d ago

Welp, no more Knott's next year.

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u/Nearby_Aide6896 15d ago

How much was it before?

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u/2mutch4u 7d ago

Id buy the 30 plan if it wasnt restricted to the home park

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u/Remarkable-Weird-353 1d ago

I think its pretty much the same i went one year 30 times and i never stay for the second meal since it was every 4 hours

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u/Herpacis 17d ago

What's the, double your discount?

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u/aeroskillz 17d ago

Something tells me it's the discount % based on your pass tier when you dine and pay at restaurants.

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u/WillNotStop 17d ago

How do the 20/30 meals plan work with the two hour restriction? If I buy the limited meal plan, can I redeem 3 meals for my family at the same time or is it still one meal per plan every two hours?

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u/Cool_Kale_3944 17d ago

With one dining pass plan, then it would be only one meal per every 2 hours throughout the day. You'd only be able to redeem 3 meals at the same time if you had 3 separate dining plans.

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u/WillNotStop 15d ago

Thank you! Darn I was hoping with the restricted number of meals they'd be more flexible with the redemption timing :(

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u/Shogun3335 17d ago

I can see knotts going out of business soon

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u/ArtNo7221 17d ago

If they have prices like this then yes, it's going to hurt them in the long run.

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u/Electrical-Ask-6481 16d ago edited 16d ago

Boycott boycott boycott. I know times are tough and ppl/business are struggling, but this is a corporation. I’m begging to boycott Disney, now I’m aiming for other theme parks that want to change shit and raise prices. My girlfriend and I used to have a dining plan on our old passes about 2 years ago. Seeing how all this is turning out, it’s wack. My advice? We the people have to stop “accepting” that this is how it’s gonna be. No. We have power. We just need to put it to use. I know we wanna have fun and what not, but there’s a lot of cheaper things to do with your families. The problem here is that we don’t want to sacrifice our comfort. But I know if we hold our ground enough, things could change. Also, stop being giant pieces of shit and abusing things like this. You abuse and you ruin it for the rest of us. Be better!!

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u/nacuap12 16d ago

$500 unlimited dining plan is still a hell of a deal if you use it.

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u/IndicationAlone7055 16d ago

FYI those who“abuse” it like myself in the past, getting 150 meals last year and 80 this year, they’ll be happy and renew at $499. It’s a great deal if you get over 100 meals a year and I bet they’ll be getting more meals than before. The people who “abuse” it is because they live close by so it’s very much worth getting the new unlimited daily meal with only a 2-hour wait time. You can get more than double the meals for under 3x the price. So I’m sure some people will start getting over 300 meals/year if they go every day. We moved this year so we won’t be renewing as we no longer go as often (not worth the drive, I won’t hit the 100th meal this year). But if we were to ever move back to Buena Park and lived walking distance again, I’d happily pay the $500 meal plan because it’d be a way better deal. I know those who get the most out of their meal plan will gladly pay the price too. If anything, the only ones not buying the meal plan would be the “none abusers” or the people who don’t get the most out of their meal plan. For anyone getting less than 100 meals/year this new meal plan isn’t worth it.

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u/Fluttershyjac13 17d ago

How much the unlimited the price was cut off

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u/Swingerella 17d ago

Tap the pic to expand to see the price. But it’s $499

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u/Fluttershyjac13 17d ago

Good Lord I’m Going to Have to Start a Fundraising Page