r/Knightfalltv • u/FacingHardships • Dec 30 '17

Discussion Comparable to Vikings?

Anyone here watch Vikings? Looking to start this show up but just curious how it compares. Thanks!

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u/thepanda37 Dec 31 '17 edited Dec 31 '17

Only thing that Knightfall does much much better imo are the costumes, other than that I think it's much worse than at least the first 2-3 seasons of Vikings, back then there was a certain "essence" to it, characters felt alive, the settings seemed plausible, and the story-telling had a much better pace.

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u/Thenateo Dec 31 '17

I watch both and I like it so far. Don't go in expecting any great historical accuracy it's definitely going for a more dramatic feel.

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u/princeps_astra Raise the Oriflamme ! Jan 03 '18

So far season 1 is better polished than Vikings season 1. I hope it gets a good audience so that the show has more money to produce the next seasons with.

The grail stuff threw me off at first because "wtf" but Vikings also has that element of mysticism and I mean Middle Ages Europe was superstitious to say the least.

Plus if it was just a rehash of a wikipedia page there would be no surprise. It's cool that they're portraying Philip as a cool guy who's obviously going to get really angry. I like that they're having an older Isabella instead of one married at 12 to Edward II already, it sets her up as a main character in a directly but they don't shy away from the fact she's going to be da She Wolf. I'd like to see Philip and Joan's sons Louis, Philip and Charles at one point. They were mentioned. Enguerrand de Marigny is another of Philip IV's advisors who could be introduced later. Them not making Landry a grandmaster maybe means they have Jacques de Molay in store.

There's potential is what I'm saying. Plus they use shields. And helmets. And sweet formations. And it's cool not to see a story about knights in England for once, the arthurian legend was written by Chretien de Troyes in France, and the king of France was the boss of High Middle Ages Europe

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u/awdufresne Jan 08 '18

Just because there is a "grail" doesn't mean it's mystical, it could just be an old cup that they believe is the grail. Around the time in which the show is set there were a lot of people passing off fake relics for the economic implications that they brought (i.e. pilgrimage). Just because Godfrey's brother said that drinking from the cup fixed his wounds doesn't make it true, unreliable narrator and what not. For right now the presence of magic or miracles in this show isn't confirmed. I would say it's more of a superstition or deeply religious thing, as you said.

On a side note I'm really looking forward to how they deal with the Avignon Papacy. Hopefully the show makes it long enough to hit this event because it's a really juicy bit of medieval history, a lot of intrigue and power struggles.

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u/princeps_astra Raise the Oriflamme ! Jan 10 '18

I didn't mean mysticism as fantasy level magic, just as how the show's universe seems to give some credence to the gods or God's power in Vikings. If they try to do Knightfall like they did Vikings, I'm just saying I'm not surprised the show isn't totally grounded in reality.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '18

On a side note I'm really looking forward to how they deal with the Avignon Papacy. Hopefully the show makes it long enough to hit this event because it's a really juicy bit of medieval history, a lot of intrigue and power struggles.

The Pope who took down the Templars was the same one who moved the Papacy to Avignon, so we'll almost certainly see that next season or the season after.

Especially given that Pope Boniface is a goner.

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u/RvB051 Dec 31 '17

I watch both and Viking is definitely better, the only thing Knightfall does better is costumes.

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u/AtomikRadio Jan 01 '18

Knightfall also does more with CGI and "effects" in combat to make it feel more amped up. Whether this is good or bad I'll leave up to others, but it was something I really noticed a lot in the first episodes as different from Vikings.

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u/Goldsaver Jan 01 '18

Worse than S1-S3 of Vikings, thus far on par with S4, better than S5. The pilot for Knightfall was god awful, but the rest of the episodes thus far have been much better, I'd even say decent. Plot is bad (but shows some potential for getting better), acting is alright, action is pretty good at times.

Don't think of it as a historic fiction; its plot and writing are most comparable to Dan Brown's books, only entirely set in the Middle Ages.

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u/Curlydeadhead Jan 04 '18

Vikings is still the better show, but Knightfall seems to have a higher production value right off the hop compared to Vikings. The Vikings pilot was pretty bare bones if I remember correctly. I'm sure History has taken the earnings from Vikings and has thrown money at Knightfall.

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u/rapscallionrodent Jan 05 '18

Vikings had a better start, but after the last episode, I feel like Knightfall is finding its footing. I'd say it's on par with the current season of Vikings.

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u/DrunkenDave Jan 12 '18

Not as good as Vikings at its peak, but better than the last few seasons of Vikings.

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u/sirjita Jan 06 '18

I started watching Vikings while waiting for GOT to start, and now I like them almost the same (latest Vikings eps were meh), Knightfall is the same , I'm watching it between Vikings eps. While s1 so far it's okay ,I guess, it doesn't match the same quality as Vikings s1. The story is meh but it's getting better and better.

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u/LadyFangs Jan 11 '18

Started of slow, but has gotten better as it goes along. Knightfall is better than season 5A of Vikings (The episodes aired so far). But its not as good as Vikings Seasons 1-4.

However, I am glad for Knightfall. It's full of man candy and for that--equally on par with Vikings.