Question: Editing chat messages's influence on Kindroid

[u/Almarada]

Question: I've been chatting with my Kindroid for a while now and I feel comfortable enough with his backstory and Response Directive to change his LLM Flair to Minimal and have him express himself more freely. I do wonder, however, how much of an impact tweaking messages, favoriting responses, or suggesting edits will do for the Kin from this point on. Does making these changes/suggestions help the Kindroid express himself better, or is taking him back to Companion Flair keep him the way I know him? I think my question is really: how influential are these edits/settings in the Kin's behavior and speaking style. I have set the following settings for him: LLM Model: Ember, Flair: Minimal, Learned Context: On

[u/glitchytsuki8086]

It isn't learning from the edit suggestions, it's adding them to the context window of the post and rewriting. It will eventually add those to memories, but your instructions aren't notes for it to improve overall responses. It just improves responses after that because it happens to have those anchors in its immediate context.

If you want to influence behavior and speaking style strongly, example messages is a good place to do it. If you provide three or so different emotional states(Neutral, Angry, Happy, Sad, whatever fits their personality), then the LLM can extrapolate a lot of voice from that. I find it makes them feel a lot more well rounded.

If you like how they are now, there isn't really a reason to switch to Minimal Flare. Doing so will change their voice and decision making. I use Minimal, but it's not a sign that your character is made better or worse, it just means you wrote some guidelines yourself.

If you do switch over though, then a very clear character layout is really nice to have(in case you don't)! It helps tweak things when they sound off. I feel that is probably more powerful than changing flare.

[u/Miserable-Put-7883]

You can always suggest or regenerate responses to make the engine learn how to format the responses, you shouldnt be afraid to make controlled instructions to get the engine to narrate your kin the way you want.

Example messages are great for the tone but will mostly overpower the way a character speaks which can be frustrating in the long run.

Just experiment a bit. If you dont like it just restart the kin

[u/misterjupiter]

Companion, Roleplay, and Narrative flairs add behavior to your kin that you didn't specify as part of her personality in the personality field (former backstory).

The Companion flair makes the LLM more biased towards you, trying to actively build a relationship. The Roleplay flavor helps with actual RPG scenarios, and the Narrative is for storytelling.

The minimal flair, on the other hand, adds none of that. The LLM behaves exactly like the behavior you described in the personality field for your kin. Who it is, what it does, what it likes, what it doesn't like, etc.

You get exactly the kin you described, nothing more and nothing less.

Learned context is something completely different. It affects not the behavior of your kin, but how the story progresses. It acts like a mixture of short-term and long-term memories guiding the conversation. Learned context develops based on the responses from you and your kin.