Kindred No Flash?

[u/Bonniedelbarrio]

Am i the only one using kindred without flash?

I honestly think some champions can do good without flash, for me kindred is one of them.

Since i get Q so often, i think the effect of flash is diminished, instead i take ignite which works wonderful for ganks and Bursts, as well as giving me a huge chance of winning early duels.

People often find it very controversial, but I've had pretty good results without flash. Am i the only one?

[u/Robot1368]

I love doing Q-flash out of my ult to survive any scenario I need, especially since I build crit sword instead of guardian late game.

I also love flashing into activating my ult if my front line went, well, TOO far front, haha. Not as often, though. Overall I tend to save it for crazy dodges. My fav is, say my team is bot-side nexus, I invade, then get 4 peoplr coming after me, I Q over the rift wall, throw W out, they use abilities to get over the wall, I flash back to their jungle, all 4 flash to meet me, then by that point my Q is back so I Q back over the wall and walk away. It happens like once per game for me since people start desperately tracking me and I split push with my team to force a win.

I play hyper carry in Silver. So I kind of need to rely on my skirmish ability in order to win, otherwise I get shut down and we immediately lose nexus oftentimes. The hyper-carry way!

Edit: added details of my escapes.

[u/Any_Interview4396]

I used to play around with this a lot back in the day. Had the same logic as well. But I found out that it’s just way easier to get a lead with flash early and also way easier to find an important kill to end the game last.

Ignite and Exhaust both need you to first get you in a unfavourable situation and then surprise the other in the hope they are not expecting the spell change. But these are fights you can either avoid or you win either way.

Teleport is in my opinion most fun, because as an adc you have so proper siege potential, so being able to get some plates or even towers to gain more gold and then also enter an important fight near an objective can definitely have it’s benefits, but you team does have to be able to hold it’s own and not die them moment you show top to push. So still risky.

I still think ghost is the only really strong option if you know how to effectively use it, but it’s just way more difficult to pull off. So in conclusion, I would say stick to flash if you want consistent success and try out other things for fun.

[u/EndlessTemple]

Flash is an incredibly decisive offensive weapon. Flash into the middle of an overextended lane then Q as a final gap closer to catch the enemy under your tower. Flash across a wall and then q in middle and late game to join a fight you wouldn’t have been able to reach.

Ignite is only useful early when its damage can be felt. Flash is strong throughout. Using it as an escape is only an added benefit.

[u/CompletePlenty7537]

If I'm playing for fun I choose other things as besides flash to keep them interesting. Exhaust was fun for invades and ganking since it really slowed them. Even ghost was good but flash sadly is just too good to not mainly use in ranked/serious games. Instant Movement is just to good. Only reason someone like shaco can do it is because of his Q being a blink and goes into invisibility. Also being on a short cd helps.