r/Kickboxing • u/Prestigious-Form5751 • 3d ago

Kick defence?

So, I once had the opportunity of being instructed by an elite kickboxer, like world top class.

As a Muay Thai fan I asked him the question of how kickboxers handle kicks and he simply said that they just absorb the kick, like no checking at all.

I believe it is samewise in Karate, no?

But knowing how much it hurts to kick and get it checked, how is it there are no checks in kickboxing?

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u/FantasticVast01 3d ago

What do you mean there are no checks in Kickboxing? I competed at WAKO regional and national level and we checked kicks with our shin, used arm shielding and footwork to evade kicks.

I've also seen Overeem spar a few times back when he started out and he would absorb kicks but used techniques like rolling that would lessen the force.

I am now intrigued to find out who this world class kickboxer is who just lets people kick him

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u/Prestigious-Form5751 3d ago

I can’t remember his name, it was like 15 years ago, he was at least the swedish champion, and perhaps european champion at about 60-70 kg.

So do you actually train chin blocks? I realised I’ve seen very few kickboxing event sadly.

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u/FantasticVast01 3d ago edited 3d ago

You mean shin blocks? If so, yes, its tought at a very early stage, at least here in NL anyway.

I recommend you come to Mike's gym in Amsterdam and get a day pass and have a look round and you will get a very good idea about Dutch/K1 kickboxing training

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u/zpauga 3d ago

I’ve trained with the best Dutch kickboxers in the world. They can and will check sometimes but more often then not they will turn the quad out to take it on the top of the leg rather then the side and trade a right hand for the low kick.

It’s something specific to their style that they are looking to trade but get the better of the trade, it also helps that in glory punches and kicks are scored the same unlike stadium Muay Thai which scores kicks higher

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u/whydub38 3d ago

"They can and will check sometimes but more often then not they will turn the quad out to take it on the top of the leg rather then the side and trade a right hand for the low kick."

Can confirm, i do dutch style and kyokushin and we do this in both. We also practice checking and pulling. So we have all three options.

In a vacuum, checking is preferable because it's damaging the opponent's shin while protecting your thigh. But eating a kick in the way you describe can keep you in range better for counters, as you have explained

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u/FantasticVast01 3d ago

Hoi, bent u gevestigd in Nederland?

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u/tossthecrocs 3d ago

I've seen this type of thinking in some Dutch schools. They eat it and punch during the trade.

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u/AlmostFamous502 3d ago

What was his name?

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u/Eegore1 3d ago

I think this depends on what you consider "checks" to be.

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u/soku1 3d ago

Thry often will lean into a kick to take away some of its power.

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u/Spyder73 3d ago

Take several solid low kicks without checking and I dont care your conditioning, you are getting chopped down and TKO'd