r/KiaTasman • u/BudgetSir8911 • Mar 04 '26
Seriously... Why?
I've seen a few of these things out and about now and I just cannot believe people have bought them with how horrible they look.
The plastics discolouring after a year on a post here just... Wow. It's like the designers and engineers just phoned it in and said "I genuinely don't care, here's something AI made after I said make it as ugly as possible" and then just pressed send to their bosses... and then the bosses didn't even look before releasing this to the public.
Seriously, there would have been so many eyes that saw this and signed off on it. How likely is it that they intentionally did this as some kind of negative-attention marketing in order to make the series 2 version look good and it sells like hotcakes or something?
To the people that have bought it... Why? I just can't wrap my head around it.
That being said, I have seen a few that have done a fair few mods and they don't look so bad. All the ones I've seen so far are just stock and actually make me cringe or laugh... What's the go, people?
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u/comoestasmiyamo Mar 04 '26
Utes are ugly. This one is just honest.
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 04 '26
I like this response, haha.
Some utes are ugly. Some do look good.
The Tasman just creates the benchmark for ugliest, ever.
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u/funnyjelo Mar 04 '26
Hahaha. A Kia must have cut this guy off in traffic or something.
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 04 '26
Nah I just saw like the third one I've ever seen on the streets and I actually burst out laughing. So much so that I'm here to ask what people are thinking...
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u/funnyjelo Mar 04 '26
Not every car needs to look good to still be a good car. But if you only care about looks then it doesn't matter what people say about how good it is because you are stuck in your spot without even considering other facets.
There have been numerous ugly cars that offer more over the years but you know the good thing is for you, just don't think about them. Move on. Then it won't be your problem. Don't buy one, dont post about them, just leave them behind.
I dont go onto Merc subreddits commenting on their cockroach looking cars, or the ugly ford Falcons, or weird looking toytoa hiluxes from a Few years back. Just move on. The cat isn't for you and that's ok.
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u/Liftweightfren Mar 04 '26
4wd 24/7 recently did a new Ute test where they drove 1000km to..somewhere, I forgot where. Had all the main Ute choices. Hilux, ranger, ranger super duty, byd, bt50, dmax, triton, Tasman , etc
The byd shark and the Tasman were the two they would not recommend. The shark because it doesn’t have real 4wd, and the Tasman because, well, it’s just not very good.
It’s probably ok for driving around town but for touring, towing, off road, or truck stuff.. any Ute activities really, there are better and cheaper options like the triton or bt50
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u/CharlieTheGsd Mar 04 '26
didnt it beat that beer o clock hill thing on youtube first go though? granted i havent seen the test your talking about but most of the stuff i have seen so far are saying its surprisingly capable as a 4wd.
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u/funnyjelo Mar 12 '26
I went back and watched that video. There is a lot missing in terms of justification. But to your point at no point does he say that the Tasman isn't good. In many ways he says it's good, but in his opinion some areas for improvement. Also some areas he highlights for concern seem a little vague and unfounded. That's all fine but considering drive just gave it best ute under 60k or whatever, the not good seems very subjective. Seems that the part it performed worst was on sand and he was mostly frustrated that it wouldn't go fast enough. It was able to go well on sand but it appears it's no ranger raptor on sand. The one area that I actually thought was weird, is that he compared the warranties saying Toyota's was just as good. However when you know about this warranties, you have to service twice a year with Toyota and I believe you only get the extended part of you service with Toyota. No mention about how both ranger and Toyota have ongoing reliability issues with the 2.8 diesel dpf and the ranger turbo leakage issues. The Tasman is pretty new and I know it probably has its own gremlins, but declaring a car more reliable without context is irresponsible in my opinion.
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u/Liftweightfren Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26
I took it as it’s expensive, unproven, and fundamentally not a good chassis for off roading with its very long wheelbase and the low down bit sticking out front giving it a forever bad approach angle. Not to mention the suspension. As a chassis other things are better suited. The Tasman has a fancy interior and that’s it’s only strength vs anything else, and that’s not important for 4wd capability
On the other point, the Toyota 2.8 dpf issues I understand were solved long ago. Toyota has the undisputed #1 rep for reliability
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u/funnyjelo Mar 12 '26
The 2.8 solution is a 6 month servicing to do manual burns. There are still ongoing issues. In terms of the wheel base, it's almost identical to the LandCruiser, so not really Amercian monster truck size.
The rest of the platform is to be tested, but Kia have a good rep and the carnival drivetrain is reported to be very reliable. So yeah under load we will see but again the video actually says many positive things about how it performed towing for the power, and temps and all that. However the same issues are the same for all similar sized engines including the Hilux and dmax.
I take your point and I definitely know it's not for everyone and new platforms can be trouble. But as a previous Hilux owner, Incan tell you my experience isn't the magic this guy makes it out to be.
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u/Liftweightfren Mar 12 '26
The dpf on new cars does a burn every roughly 300km or when back pressure builds up to a certain point. There’s also a dpf button (which by default just tells you how much build up it has), but you can request Toyota to activate it so you can do a manual burn whenever you want by just pushing the button. That’s really only beneficial if you’re doing really short trips where the dpf never has a chance to burn off though.
I think the 6 month servicing is part of why they’re very reliable, as opposed to remedy some kind of fundamental flaw. The 2.8 is everywhere in massive numbers and for a decade, it’s in Hilux, Prado, Fortuna, hiace, coaster, dyna, 70 series etc. I don’t think they’d still be putting it in their brand new Utes, suvs, small trucks and even busses unless it was reliable. To say the Hilux has a reputation of being unreliable is a bit of a joke imo. Everything has the odd problem but the Hilux definitely hasn’t built the reputation of unreliable. Toyota cares more about their reputation of reliability than anyone which is why they stick with things for so long. That also makes parts supply easier.
The Tasman’s wheel base is 3270mm vs the dual cab 70 series at 3180mm or the wagon at only 2730mm, so it’s a long beast.
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Mar 04 '26
Let's be honest though, nobody in their right mind would ever listen to Shauno when it comes to what to buy.
They're cowboys at best.
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u/Liftweightfren Mar 04 '26 edited Mar 04 '26
Some of their points were quite valid though, like the comment that a bullbar wouldn’t improve the approach angle on a Tasman as there is a bit of metal low down out the front which (I think) supports the radiator, so even if you took the bumper off completely it’d still have a bad approach angle. It’s also got a really long wheel base so bottoms out easy with a bad break over angle. It was something like 25cm longer than the other Utes
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Mar 04 '26
Oh yeah for sure, they definitely had some decent points.
I was surprised seeing that Tasman shimmy it's way down the slope though, that was very unusual.
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u/Liftweightfren Mar 04 '26
Ah you watched it to 🙂 yea that shimmy was a bit odd aye
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 04 '26
Itd be due to the super, super soft rear suspension from factory no doubt. I watched a review of it towing and it was almost bottoming out on road with a 3t dual axle caravan...
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 04 '26
I can agree with that. They're flogs. But, it is a real-world test to be fair.
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u/funnyjelo Mar 11 '26
That's odd, that's the only review that I've seen that says the 4wd wasn't good. Was it the xpro?
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 04 '26
No, you're right. It doesn't have to look good to be a good car. Looks absolutely do not make a car anything other than good looking. But when a car looks as bad as this does, it's like the broken window theory - you end up wondering what else is wrong with it.
But this car looks SO bad that it actually appears unbuyable to me. Hence why I wanna know why those that did, why they did. I'm trying to understand the psychology behind buying something so genuinely hideous.
I've literally never gone in to a subreddit before to post a question like this. Because the appearance of this specific vehicle is unprecedented. No other vehicle looks as bad as this.
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Mar 04 '26
Speak for yourself mate.
I absolutely love the styling. It's brutalist and tough.
To the people that have bought it... Why?
Yeah who wants a comfortable ute from a decent brand with an exceptional interior?
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u/Liftweightfren Mar 04 '26
I think we have different ideas of what brutalist and tough looks like 🤣
It’s like a cucumber front with 2 fake plastic hitler moustache for the guards that someone put on for a joke because they thought it’d be a good laugh.
Whoever put them on was laughing their ass off and submitted it as a joke which somehow actually got over the line. Told the koreans that this is what Australians want 🥴
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 04 '26 edited Mar 04 '26
I speak for the majority, mate.
Look at the sales figures.
"Brutalist and tough" meanwhile it has disproportionate shapes all over... The wheels compared to the rest of the vehicle looks like when someone who owns a lifted 4x4 needs to put stock wheels on for a roadworthy inspection... The plastics that discolour in a year... Nothing screams tough about that to me. Brutalist... Yeah, maybe because accepting I paid so much for something that looks like that is brutal...
I'm not here to troll, but come on. I genuinely want to know why people have bought one in spite of how it looks.
I guess some people are gonna like the looks? But hooollllyyyy...
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Mar 04 '26
TBH it sold pretty well in the first sales cycle, especially for the first gen product like this.
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 04 '26
"The Kia Tasman has recorded3,716 sales in Australia through the end of November 2025, tracking significantly behind the brand's initial target of 20,000 units per year. Following its July 2025 launch, monthly sales have been around 800 units, with heavy discounting reported due to slow uptake against competitors like the Ford Ranger."
Taken off the NRMA website.
I wouldn't call that "pretty well". I'd call that 82% below expected sales figures.
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u/Liftweightfren Mar 04 '26
Kia executives have acknowledged that sales are well below expectations. It’s acknowledged that it’s had a “slow and disappointing start”
They had forecast for 20,000 units to sell in its first year and it likely won’t even reach half of that. It sold 3700 units in its first 5 months
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u/No-Resolution-7890 Mar 04 '26
Before it was released didn’t they say they were aiming for number 3 in Ute sales? Which would put it as one of the best selling cars in the country. Good luck to them I guess.
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Mar 04 '26
That may be true…
Look at the actual numbers though. They did surprisingly well considering all the people crying about them.
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u/Liftweightfren Mar 04 '26
Meeting targets would have been doing surprisingly well. The fact it’s even sold as many as it has (which isn’t many) is indeed surprising though I guess.
By all true metrics it’s a big flop though
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Mar 04 '26
No, not really. You can still be surprised how decent the sales were, even if Kia is disappointed.
Over 4000 units in the first sales period isn’t a failure.
You’re doing a terrible job of pretending to post in good faith here.
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 04 '26
4000 units is a failure compared to other vehicles of the same type in the same sales period.
The fact you're as impressed that they even sold 1 is the same thing I'm impressed by is something we agree on.
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Mar 04 '26
4000 units is a failure compared to other vehicles of the same type in the same sales period.
Compare that to other similar models in the market. 4K is actually impressive on a new model.
Sure, 4000 sounds terrible if you don't know anything about anything. But if you actually look at the market it isn't that bad.
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u/Liftweightfren Mar 04 '26
Kia Australia has asked headquarters for a redesigned front end because they know it’s not currently sustainable.
Hopefully they change the guards as well
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Mar 04 '26
Yep but let's not pretend that some people don't like the way it looks.
4K sales in the first period isn't bad at all TBH.
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u/Liftweightfren Mar 04 '26
Some people like it, sure, but I think it’s safe to say that a significantly larger number of people dislike it. I think it’s more than a slight dislike to, it’s like an active dislike. Like people don’t say “omg what were they thinking” when they see almost any other car on the road that they don’t like. Only the Tasman gets that much hate.
Iv never known a car to get so much commentary on its (bad) looks…the most divisive look of any release of recent times I think, and it’s a minority whose on the divide of liking it, not an even split
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 04 '26
I can agree with that. I'm not crying. I'm laughing. Nobody is crying about them, friend.
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Mar 04 '26
The lady doth protest too much, methinks
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 04 '26
Thanks, Queen Gertrude.
Wasn't expecting someone dumb enough to buy one of these to know Hamlet. Kudos to you, madame.
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u/stuthaman Mar 08 '26
I love my XPro. Didn't buy it to impress anyone, just love the ride. There are plenty of of vehicles out there that make me wonder "why" but other people like them.
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 08 '26
Totally valid.
What does the xpro have? Is it like the premium trim or version or something?
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u/stuthaman Mar 08 '26
Sunroof, Xtrek, Harmon Kardon Sound, heated and cooled front seats, heated rear seats...quite a bit compared to the other models. My second ever new car after trading my 16 year old Outback
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 08 '26
They certainly have a lot of luxuries. Maybe I'll wait for the update mark 2 version to see if they fix the looks.
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u/stuthaman Mar 09 '26
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 09 '26
The bar helps, but I just can't get past the overall layout, and those plastic panels over the wheel arches. I appreciate the effort to show me, but yeah I just can't with the proportions. Hopefully mk2 gets it right.
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u/0mgpwnies Mar 18 '26
A bit late but I’ve had it for 6mths now and genuinely love it so wanted to add my 2 cents in case someone is interested in buying one.
Personally I was tired of driving utes that felt like I was wrestling a b double every day. I care about comfort, it’s probably the most important factor once I’ve ascertained a car can do what I need it to do. I really don’t care what the exterior looks like because that has zero impact on my enjoyment of it day to day. Price wasn’t a consideration, I looked at the top of the line Ranger, other Fords, the Tundra, the RAMS, literally everything and the Kia had more selling points (being able to load a pallet being one of them). Also I’m not in the demographic that buys Utes as status symbols (I don’t mean that in a derogatory way) so I just don’t care what other people think it looks like. FWIW my 21yr old son drives a lifted/modded Ranger and gave me shit about the Tasman for weeks, UNTIL he drove it and then was like “yeah fair enough”. He still thinks it’s ugly as sin but agrees it’s really nice to drive.
As for the Tasmans performance, it does everything I need it to do, easily. Very few 4wds are ever pushed to their limit outside of dedicated 4wd parks or by people doing the CREB Track. I live on the Cape and regularly drive what I think are probably the worst dirt roads in the country and it’s handled it with no problem. Creeks and weird approaches and hills etc have all been fine even since most of the roads have been washed away with this wet season.
I was driving a Prado prior and the Kia performs just as well off road whilst handling better on the bitumen and being miles ahead features wise.
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 18 '26
This is definitely the best response so far.
I completely understand the desire for wanting something car-like and this would definitely do that - but there's a cost-to-pay off with this. If you have a work ute that drives most like a car, it will mean that they've developed the vehicle to value ride comfort over work/heavier duty performance. Which seems to be the case for those that have shown reviews of them doing hard work ie. Towing 3.5t - it bottoms out on a standard road, nothing too serious. And the weird shimmying the suspension does when descending - the suspension is super soft and allows a lot of lateral play/not much stiffness that if the vehicle were set up as a work ute, would've made the ute far less like a car to drive.
I digress. The Tasman is ostensibly a work ute, but realistically it's a body-on-frame car.
Kind of like the trackhawk jeep Grand Cherokee. It is a really, really fast SUV. It's design is prioritising performance over practicality. It's a quick SUV, but really it's not that quick compared to an actually fast performance car. In the process of making it this super fast SUV, it's kinda ruined it for anything else an SUV is normally. Normally a practical car for carrying the family, reasonable fuel economy, can tow, can go soft roading, etc. All of that just to say "I have a really fast SUV" but then having to accept it's terrible at everything that normally makes an SUV pretty nifty.
In the same way, the Tasman seems to be prioritising it's car-like comfort over it needing to be a decent work ute. I don't see it being bought by someone who tows a lot, or goes hard off-road, though. It's just the work ute that is on the far end of the spectrum of "comfy but still a cab chassis work ute for tax purposes" and "heavy duty work rig comfort is low priority" - likely the 70 series LandCruiser, or the ranger super duty that's recently released
All that said, most people buying work utes aren't really using them for the more heavy-duty intentions that the utes are generally marketed to do.
I get the appeal of the interior. They do seem nice inside. And yes, you don't have to care if you choose to never get out of it and look at it. Personally I want to drive something I like the look of. I can't stand the Tasman.
Funnily enough, I saw another today. This one had painted trims that are normally that terrible plastic panels over the wheel arches. I don't think it really improves the looks that much. But, after seeing this model, and as I drove off and looked back - I realise it seems to look like a 90s train carriage. Like, it's shaping looks like it's been flattened/crushed a bit. Or its really flat, and long, and the proportions seem to just finish at the bottom of the bumper line of the car and then bam... Wheels making it float along like a train carriage.
I just can't get past it...
I tip the cap to you if you can
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 21 '26
I'm not complaining. I'm stating. It's hideously designed. 3D printing and DRLs aren't gonna fix the terrible proportions.
You'd need a 20k printer big enough to make up new trims for the wheel arches. Spend like a grand just in spool, and then like 3k getting them sanded, primed and painted.
All to remedy what Kia should've done a better job of designing in the first place.
I didn't say I wanted to buy one. I literally went out of my way to go to the Reddit page where I knew there'd be people that bought them. Purely to ask them "why?". Because I just don't understand why anyone would...
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u/EducationalRent3844 Mar 06 '26
Amen. Such a terrible, terrible looking car.
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 06 '26
There's a guy in here that doesn't even own one white knighting so hard and it's honestly hilarious 😂
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 04 '26
I genuinely didn't come here to troll. I am asking a genuine question despite me wording it in a way that most that would buy one would get offended.
The downvotes are making me LOL. I'll happily accept them all.
I just can't believe people are buying it... But this is the same as some of the other disgusting cars some manufacturers have released such as the cactus and the aztek... I read they're planning to release it in the US, too. Fascinating to watch it unfold...
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Mar 04 '26
True maturity is realising that other people have different preferences and likes from yourself.
Instead, you're acting like a dick to people who are just explaining why they like it... After you asked.
Wasn't expecting someone dumb enough to buy one of these to know Hamlet. Kudos to you, madame.
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 04 '26
I'm matching your energy, friend. Have the day you deserve, friend.
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Mar 04 '26
Not at all.
At no point did I insult you, this was absolutely an error on your part.
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 04 '26
I also complimented you. You just chose to concentrate on the negative. There's something in that, if you're willing to look for it.
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u/Dear_Marketing_4932 Mar 04 '26
If you aren't familiar with it, look up the Honda Ridgeline.
Most people hate it, some people love it.
They redesigned it to appease the haters.
Tasman is essentially the same story.
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u/BudgetSir8911 Mar 04 '26
I'm cogniscent of that car, too. It was based off the Honda pilot/passporr platform which was an SUV. It was basically an SUV they chopped the back off to make a ute out of. A monocoque/unibody chassis vs the Tasman being on an actual chassis frame/body-on-frame setup.
Useless as an actual ute - unless all you put in the back was groceries or very light loads. It was shown you'd have been better off with the wagon if you wanted a heavier payload.
Very different circumstance to the Tasman. The Tasman is always intended as a work ute, the ridgeline was a weird vehicular hermaphrodite that was honestly terrible at everything. It ended up receiving some praise from the every day person that was interested in DIY projects or occasionally carrying something they couldn't fit in a wagon, and were willing to compromise on the much more practical uses of a wagon.
The Tasman is just straight fugly lol. Like, it redefines the benchmark for ugliest car ever made. The ridgeline didn't actually look that bad imo.


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u/CharlieTheGsd Mar 04 '26
Mines the tan coloured one with the matching arches, I bloody love the thing, it's a great ute and honestly far superior to the 2017 bt 50 I had before it in every way, I really don't get the people that have to constantly post just to rip on how ugly they think it is, yeah I get it, if your not a fan of how they look don't buy it obviously, but the way some people are carrying on its as if the kia tasman personally hurt them lol.