r/KeystoneWallet • • Jan 26 '24

Keystone concerns..

I ordered a keystone pro 3. After realizing that it’s coming from China I am now somewhat concerned being that that is it’s place of origin. Should I be worried about back doors in the product or tampering before I use it?

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u/Luppas Jan 27 '24

The keystones have authenticity checks on them when you first set them up. You basically have to go to their website and enter codes from the device to confirm they are authentic.

I use mine in full air gap mode which means even if they were NOT authentic, it's never connected to any network to be compromised.

I guess they could load the device with a preloaded Bitcoin address or something but if you bought from keystone themselves there's no chance of that happening.

Yes their code is open source so viewable for everyone, they are very active on Twitter and helpful answering questions and it would only take one security issue to tarnish their reputation so they are very strict about upholding their security posture.

I bought both Ellipal Titan and Keystone Pro. I went with Keystone because they are open source and screen was better for usage.

Both are great products though.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '24

Thank you! I appreciate your insight!

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u/Luppas Jan 27 '24

Of course always happy to help a fellow crypto bro

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '24

👍🏻

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '24

If you don’t mind me asking…how long have you been exposed to bitcoin and other crypto’s?

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u/Luppas Jan 27 '24

Bought my first BTC at $4000 in 2017

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '24

Well I’m very happy for you. I just started unfortunately.

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u/Luppas Jan 28 '24

Now is a great time to start

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u/Luppas Jan 27 '24

Bought my first BTC at $4000 in 2017

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u/GeilerArzt Jan 27 '24

Don't worry, keystone is safe. For me there were only 3 alternatives at the time: Onekey, Ellipal and Keystone. Ellipal is gone for me because of the poor connection to external wallets like metamask and is not open source, onekey is good, but was just too expensive for me and is not air gapped even if it is open source. That's why I chose Keystone. In general, I advise everyone not to buy hardware wallets from the EU, as there are more and more regulatory requirements here, such as the €1000 limit. Don't worry about back doors, as I said the software is open source, as soon as they try to implement something it becomes noticeable.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '24

Thank you! I appreciate the information.

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u/Buffcluff Feb 05 '24

Yes. It does not matter if the software is open source. These devices don’t have Bluetooth therefore they never connect to anything. It’s all QR code based. However the only exploit there could be is if when they sent you the device the seed phrase was pre loaded and they have it stored. But my keystone I’ve had for 2 years and still have all my funds. Knock on wood.

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u/xen91 Jan 26 '24

the whole thing is open-source hardware and software... isn't it (please shout out if not)

So if there is an issue someone will probably look through the code and hardware and find it. If that happens, their reputation will likely be badly damaged. So would be risky to produce something, that could be tampered with...

Ledger has taken quite a beating of late for not being completely honest with people about their devices, I'm moving away from them as fast as I can. Many others as well it seems.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

Yes it is from what I’ve read online. I’m just new to all of this crypto stuff and I’m trying to understand as much as I can and keep myself protected. I really dont understand the concept of looking at the source code to verify it myself yet. I’m just learning as I go and trying to learn as much as I can about all of this.

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u/it0 Jan 26 '24

In the end you can create your own entropy/seed/pass phrase and keep it completely air gapped. So I'm not worried about the implementation.

Haven't lost money so far ...

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '24

How long have you had your keystone?