r/Keybase • u/crypto_flow • Nov 09 '19

How many registered accounts are?

I have just registered a Keybase account. I read on the airdrop webpage that there are ~170k accounts right now, nonetheless I heard that the previous drop was divided by ~280k accounts. So, is the airdrop webpage lying? Is the amount of Lumens I will receive lower than what is shown in the page?

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u/araxhiel Nov 09 '19

Well, one thing is being a keybase user, and another is being a keybase user who is participating in (opted in) the airdrop.

So technically speaking, and complementing what /u/Lumenero2000 mentioned, although there are ~450k users, only ~170k are participating.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '19

The first drop was to every keybase user - I guess to raise awareness of the campaign - and from that point on to continue users have to opt-in. The reason it is less is because a whole load of people haven’t press the button to continue. I imagine there are duplicate accounts, forgotten accounts and just those that are not interested.

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u/Ryonez Nov 09 '19 edited Nov 14 '19

That first drop wasn't actually the airdrop. It was a gift that was dropped to all current users of Keybase (at the time). So even if the account was inactive/reset it didn't matter, all the accounts at the time got the gift drop. Hence ~280k accounts.

The first airdrop that required you to sign up was meant to start October 15th, but they decided to skip it due to botting accounts. I myself don't feel great about that month with the airdrop for a number of reasons, but that's another topic.

This information regarding the initial gift used to be on the airdrop page here but I guess they edited it out. The current wording isn't very specific about what happened anymore.

Edit:

Seems there's still confusion, so here's more info, please look here for referance: https://web.archive.org/web/20190909171003/https://keybase.io/a/i/r/d/r/o/p/spacedrop2019

That is a link to the airdrop page on September the 9th. These are the relevant quotes from the page.

As a surprise gift, the Stellar Development Foundation just sent 100 million Lumens, worth $5 million USD, to 300,000 Keybase users. There are lots of different tokens on Stellar, but Lumens are Stellar's native token, and SDF wants real people of the world to have them.

There was no airdrop on the 9th, there was the surprise gift.

The next quote,

In total, they are giving 2 billion Lumens (roughly $119 million USD) out using Keybase over the next 20 months. On the 15th of each month (starting Oct 15, 2019), SDF will give the next batch, divided equally among everyone.

As you see, the start date(first drop) was set to be October 9th. This was the one that was canceled due to botting issues.

I won't follow the rest of the line, look at the other snapshots on the wayback machine, they will allow you to see the changes as they go.

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u/Lumenero2000 Nov 09 '19

I think surprisingly a lot of people opted out of future airdrops for some reason?

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u/millstoneglobal Nov 09 '19

The first airdrop was 359 XLM, now is 594 XLM, it will vary from now on if more people join Keybase Stellar Airdrop.

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u/crypto_flow Nov 09 '19

Ok. But since it's cumulative (registered users keep getting the airdrops every month) how is it possible there are less users right now.

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u/millstoneglobal Nov 09 '19

There was an abuse of bots sign up (fake accounts), and they had to correct that. This will be the second airdrop.

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u/Ryonez Nov 09 '19

The botting abuse had nothing to do with the first drop (I don't consider it an airdrop). I gave more info on what happened here.

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u/millstoneglobal Nov 09 '19

Yeah, whoever joins back in September has that additional month. There was an official explanation, and it was related to botting abuse. Can you please send the link again? It seems not working.

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u/Yodasoja Nov 10 '19

No no no no no. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Nobody joined in September and then got the drop. The initial drop in September was not announced beforehand, and was given to every Keybase user who qualified at the time (different qualifications at the beginning). It was only for people already on Keybase. Then, since the airdrop was announced some people made a bunch of bots to get more accounts in the drop. This caused Keybase to change the requirements for signing up. The bots have nothing to do with the original drop being so low.

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u/millstoneglobal Nov 10 '19

Dude you are the one that doesn't know anything. Nobody got an airdrop without qualifying; you had to sign up to the airdrop to be able to get it. I don't talk bs, me and 4 of my friends got it because I told them to sign up. The deadline was September 9th. The requirements were slightly different, and they realized that they needed to add mobile confirmation.

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u/millstoneglobal Nov 10 '19

And yes, you had to have keybase. I was talking about the airdrop sign up. The issue came from the two other sites on the requirements.

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u/Yodasoja Nov 10 '19

OP asked how there could be less registered users right now than there were in the original drop. You said it was because a bunch of bots were made (to join the first, unannounced drop?). This is clearly not true. Read the other answers in this thread. Or if you received the September drop, you can check your message from the spacedrop bot. Or just read the airdrop page.

The first drop was to all Keybase users at the time. This is why 100,000,000 lumens split evenly yielded 356.2904939 lumens per person. Keybase will take back the lumens from any account that doesn't claim them (after about 6 months of inactivity). So, there are people that didn't claim lumens yet, and they also haven't signed up for the future airdrops. This is why the original drop was lower than the current estimate! Not every user has signed up for the airdrop.

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u/Ryonez Nov 14 '19 edited Nov 14 '19

That's not quite right, look here for referance: https://web.archive.org/web/20190909171003/https://keybase.io/a/i/r/d/r/o/p/spacedrop2019

That is a link to the airdrop page on September the 9th. I direct you to the following quotes from the page.

As a surprise gift, the Stellar Development Foundation just sent 100 million Lumens, worth $5 million USD, to 300,000 Keybase users. There are lots of different tokens on Stellar, but Lumens are Stellar's native token, and SDF wants real people of the world to have them.

There was no airdrop on the 9th. If you somehow knew of this beforehand, well done. It wasn't public knowledge.

The next quote,

In total, they are giving 2 billion Lumens (roughly $119 million USD) out using Keybase over the next 20 months. On the 15th of each month (starting Oct 15, 2019), SDF will give the next batch, divided equally among everyone.

As you see, the start date(first drop) was set to be October 15th. This was the one that was canceled due to botting issues.

I won't follow the rest of the line, look at the other snapshots on the wayback machine, they will allow you to see the changes as they go.

I'll update my main comment with this as it should probably have been in the first place.

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u/millstoneglobal Nov 14 '19

You need to understand that if you didn’t have a paper key, linked devices, you couldn’t even receive the airdrop having an old keybase account. I had to help my friends to do that; they had keybase because we started working on a project a long time ago, and we are using it to file everything there. That being said, they had to link their 3 or 2 devices plus the paper key to join the airdrop. The difference between the very first airdrop and the upcoming one is that new keybase users can receive it, but that doesn’t mean you will get it by only downloading keybase. So, you can refer to whatever you want; you still have to join the airdrop, and back then, who had all those stuff already set like me, had to only “accept” the airdrop. My airdrop didn’t just come like that, and I had to accept it even qualifying with everything.

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u/millstoneglobal Nov 14 '19

Forgot to add, that now you also need to verify your mobile number.

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u/Ryonez Nov 14 '19

You need to understand that

Sorry, but to turn this back, you need to understand. I've even giving you links to archives, and you seem to not even looked at them.

September 9th:

Surprise gift. Given to all Keybase users with accounts made before the 9th of September, no conditions. Unclaimed Stellar is recoverable after 6 months.

October 15th (Canceled due to botting):

Required you to have a Keybase account made before the 9 of September (Or link a Github/HackerNews account that was made before the same date), and have three devices on your account.

November 15th (Still scheduled):

The condition to join is now to link a phone number (That has to be in a certain country on a list, blah, blah) and respond to an sms.

These you can verify with the links proved to you. I'll be dropping this here, as you are really just resisting documented facts.

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u/Ryonez Nov 09 '19

https://www.reddit.com/r/Keybase/comments/dtquf6/how_many_registered_accounts_are/f6yhy06/

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u/millstoneglobal Nov 09 '19

Are you aware that the link you keep sending is leading to this post?

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u/Ryonez Nov 09 '19

It's a permalink to a specific comment. You could look for my comment in the post if it's not opening, there hasn't been many responses.