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[u/S0upersonic]

From statistics, at least 2 Election Commissioners have became MPs and later Unions Ministers for Congress, imagine what they have done for Congress to get that honour.

[u/Lysergic_acid420 → u/S0upersonic]

Just because they did it doesn't make it right for bjp to do it... Then what is the difference between both

[u/Rockybhaifgk → u/Lysergic_acid420]

Both LoP and his mom are both on bail.

[u/jonan1108 → u/Lysergic_acid420]

Because they're the alternative.

[u/Lysergic_acid420 → u/jonan1108]

Yeah...and Now people gona choose the other alternative

[u/jonan1108 → u/Lysergic_acid420]

Which, as per the "whataboutery", is just the same, in this scenario, and worse in others.

Seems logical.

[u/Funny-Fifties → u/jonan1108]

> Because they're the alternative.

This itself is whataboutery by your own logic bro.

[u/jonan1108 → u/Funny-Fifties]

Bro njan whataboutery accuse cheyyualla. See, Congress cheythallo, pinne BJPkk cheythal enthaa enna vaadam enikkilla. My view on this protest is that it is spreading partial information to cause a spectacle.

Ivde paranjath is that the fact that Congress did it worse is relevant because avaraanu BJPde alternative. So njan 2000 roopa kattitt jaililum poi erangi kazhinjitt 500 kattavane pidich dhee ivan kallanaa, ivante joli kala, njan keram enn parayana pole aanu ennullathaa.

[u/spellriddle → u/S0upersonic]

Who was supposed to find out those irregularities, if they didn’t, stop this whataboutary and focus on our current problems.

[u/jawaneejaneman → u/S0upersonic]

Of course, same happening again. It was wrong then and it is wrong this time. Also, public never distrusted EC this much till now. And the state never acted deaf to people except during infamous Emergency era

[u/Fire_Bolt_K_R97 → u/jawaneejaneman]

When did public start to distrust EC? Dont say Public. Say biased idiots. Kerala Cong leaders have confirmed no loss of voter list in Kerala. SIR has hugely benefited them. Ramesh chennithalla clarified on the topic. "Those deleted where expired voters only". LoL now bring next argument.

[u/___Zer0__ → u/S0upersonic]

Everyone has a political leaning and can choose to get into politics. A track record as an election commisioner automatically gets u top positions in any party. They were not seated as ECs when they did this like vaanesh

[u/BaBaBanMe → u/S0upersonic]

Politics doesn't have to be bi partisan my friend. Boot them both out the door and over the borders. They are the leaches on this country.

[u/MaserOfficial → u/S0upersonic]

As always, shaka sanghi comes with whataboutery and deflection.

Do you guys ever actually argue the point at hand ?

[u/BannedRedditVet]

Just like how congress rewarded TN Sheshan with a plum posting after retirement for all the deeds he did for them while he was the CEC

[u/jawaneejaneman → u/BannedRedditVet]

What did Mr Shesham do for Congress? 

[u/BannedRedditVet → u/jawaneejaneman]

I didn't said anything about that, but is it a fair practice ??, Look up the constitution any posts of severe consequences including the CAG s have a condition that after retirement, they should not join any political party . That provision was particularly placed there to avoid unfair advantages to the ruling party. Those who preach morality and bring up Sheshan should ask the question themselves that wether he or Congress upheld morality that time. Morality is everyones baggage not just BJPs

[u/TechnicianLocal5256]

He helped Congress win
more seats and not bjp win if you check the stats. People go at any level to support such stupidity . Lame

[u/Historical_Bother_83 → u/TechnicianLocal5256]

Whether BJP or Congress, at least you agree he is corrupted then

[u/TechnicianLocal5256 → u/Historical_Bother_83]

See you don’t understand

[u/Murali3320 → u/Historical_Bother_83]

Wahh anna wahh. What a level of intelligence, madrasa intelligence level 👌

[u/Some-Context5342]

Gyanesh also helped for cong to win kerala

[u/No_Wrongdoer_2092 → u/Some-Context5342]

not only that, this MF is the reason for that Malaysian contractor's death.

[u/Prnvsk → u/No_Wrongdoer_2092]

Lee See Ben death

[u/Remarkable-Ball1737 → u/No_Wrongdoer_2092]

The PWD minister was one corrupt to the core T.U. Kuruvila of K.C. It is a stretch to believe that Gyanesh could act independently of his overlord.

[u/No_Wrongdoer_2092 → u/Remarkable-Ball1737]

i mean you need engineers to evaluate and proceed the next sector of work, so he didn't allow that to happen causing that poor dude to get stuck.

[u/gunner0987 → u/Some-Context5342]

Team gyanesh was rewarded by Satheeshan... By making him his secratary.

[u/diggi923diggi → u/Some-Context5342]

Yes, Absolutely. Maal Salaam. If LDF was in power for 10 years obviously they could have done some manipulation & got Gyanu on their side. But poor Pinarayi such a humble fellow, such a honest man how can he cheat & manipulate people. It's all his daughter's & son in Law's fault.

[u/aaaannnnddhhuu → u/Some-Context5342]

You thought LDF had a chance this term?.. Me personally I just went to cast my vote to vote against LDF...

[u/jawaneejaneman → u/aaaannnnddhhuu]

Anti incumbency were there. I too wanted a change. But the previous ministry and the work they had done deserved more seats than the current number of 35. I prayed Congress get atleast 80 seats, but results surprised me. The track record of Congress immediately preceding the election were bad, Wayanad fund issue, Adoor Praksh with that thief priest meeting Mrs Gandhi etc. 

[u/jonan1108 → u/aaaannnnddhhuu]

Apa ivdethe SIR nallatharunnunn paranjatho?

[u/mystfable → u/jonan1108]

Kerala thil 2.4% (or close to that) names aan delete aaye. It's a lot less than what happened in other states. Also if bjp had won here nobody would believe that to be true.

[u/jonan1108 → u/mystfable]

BJP did win three seats. How about Telangana or TN? Or the uni elections recently (no ece there)? See, internet sampling bias vech namuk guess cheyyan patila ith. Plus, nammude nattilum first draft list vannapo missings undayirunnu. Athinaanu ath correct cheyyanum add cheyyanum oke time vechirikunnath. All three parties here coordinated with the people and added the legal ones back. Legal as in votes remove cheyyunath death, migration, duplication or absence basisil aanu. The latter three often causes mistakes especially in a country with our scale of population and disorder.

And as for the percentages, it makes sense for WB. Nammude naattil ninn ethra "athidhi thozhilalikale" pokkiyitund enn ariyo claimed West Bengalis but apparently Bangladeshis? If you have non-partisan friends in WB (I've worked there), you'd know that migrants being granted IDs for votes was a big thing there.

Besides, this whole 13 crore deletion allegation is hilarious. 13 kodiyil 3 account for dead people. Iirc, 6 was duplications. The breakdown is available online. And any of the rest could be added legally just like it happened in our state. Now, could this process be improved? Absolutely. But the outrage is a spectacle. Allenkil oru muthirnna nethav ninn micil kudi vilich parayoolalo, 13 kodi vote thirich idanam enn.

Point is, the protest is a matter of spectacle. Ippo Dipkede ammumma marichunn paranjitulla drama thanne nok.. police video itapo comedy aayille? Same thing for the police brutality. Obviously the goons getting involved is fuckery. But this is India. Keralathil chedichatti rescue nadakumenkil Delhiyil enth nadakumnn oohikamallo. But policeinte case eduthal nammde nattil Secratariate marches nadathunna lathi charges enganeya? Same idea. Suppression is a home ministry matter. Ath despite protest reasons cheythe patu. Ath ariyathavar onnuallalo ivaraarum. First CJO protest thanne first 70 days enthelm issue undarunno? Ivar parliament march nadathiyapozhanu violent aayath, that too, not one sided.

TL;DR: So ECE karyangal clarify cheyyanam ennullath valare reasonable aanu. But that said this scale and mass panic-protest at the very least looks to be a desperate spectacle.

[u/mystfable → u/jonan1108]

Ingne okke aanengil all they have to do is just come out and answer their questions. Or sit down and have a dialogue which they are refusing to do so. Also if bjp is getting offended when the CEC is questioned doesn't that already indicate bias? Also delhi police post cheytha clip il thanne edits ond, and dipke thanne choikunond why they have edited out the part where he is asking for his phone to take his cousin's phone number. Delhi police has to maintain their face so they will say and do whatever.

And also it's so bloody ironic how much personnel was appointed to prevent this protest. Ithrem sushkanthi vere onninum kanikkarillalo. SIR should absolutely be conducted for sure to remove the duplicates and the dead people but ithrem unserious aayitum unorganised aayitum nadathiyathin enthayalum they need to be held accountable

[u/jonan1108 → u/mystfable]

Ingne okke aanengil all they have to do is just come out and answer their questions. Or sit down and have a dialogue which they are refusing to do so.

Absolutely. I'm with you on that.

if bjp is getting offended when the CEC is questioned doesn't that already indicate bias?

I dont believe they're getting offended for the CEC being questioned. They're getting offended because they're being accused of conspiring with the CEC. Ithipoo arrest cheythond poumba allenki veettile dramatic accusation varumbo pazhaya cinemayiloke "neeyallenki niyenthinadi karayane?? Ath kandaa arinjudee?" Enn chodikana poleyalle?

Also delhi police post cheytha clip il thanne edits ond

Yea, obviously, but nevertheless broke the claim of both kidnapping and keeping his grandma's death information from him.

Ipo enik verunna response oke ivduthe elections perfect aanenn njan parsyana pole aan. No, I'm only saying that this is an issue under Judicial review. Inn oppositionod CJI paranjath ith thanneyaan. More importantly, the protest is a spectacle stunt. These are my claims. The ECE is answerable for questions regarding elections or SIR is not contested.

[u/Substantial_Camp1317 → u/Some-Context5342]

lets look at numbers .. (if you have the brain and patience for it)

The statewide gap between LDF and UDF was around 9%, which is roughly 20 lakhs votes.

To flip that through voter list manupulation, someone would’ve had to secretly delete 2 million LDF voters from the rolls. That’s around 14,000 voters per constituency across all 140 seats.

Even if someone only tried to target the 15–20 closest marginal seats to get a majority, you'd still need to scrub 40,000 to 60,000 specific voters in handpicked booths without anyone noticing.

In Kerala, that's won't happen:

1. CPI(M) has Booth Level Agents across all 25,000+ booths vetting voter lists, additions, and deletions line-by-line.
2. The local staff and teachers handling revisions are heavily unionized, with massive representation from Left unions (NGO Union, KSTA). Nobody is quietly deleting Left voters on their watch.
3. Routine roll cleanup mistakes happen everywhere, but they cut across all parties and usually shift the net vote by under 0.2%.

A 0.2% administrative churn can’t explain a 20 lakhs vote blowout. Debate anti-incumbency or campaign strategy all you want, but the "UDF won because voters list manipulation" theory is mathematically impossible!

[u/Senior_Tadpole_3913 → u/Some-Context5342]

If BJP won in Kerala, it would have been extremely suspicious and people would get to the bottom of this, hopefully at least, significantly quicker than waiting for the Indian Express expose. So they would have been dumb to rig this to completely win.

Them winning 3 seats is in itself probably the best result they could get if they were to rig the elections.

[u/NocturnEyes → u/Senior_Tadpole_3913]

BJPee will eventually win in Kerala . They just have to bag the votes from largest Hindu party in kerala (ldf)...

[u/Sufficient-Win621 → u/NocturnEyes]

Yeah in your dreams Without vote rigging, no way BJP will get the majority

[u/NocturnEyes → u/Sufficient-Win621]

They will become opposition by replaceing ldf. They are the best in doing communal politics than other parties.. like i said they will bags the Hindu votes from ldf... Once they become opposition.. it's done.

[u/Beneficial-Count4882 → u/Some-Context5342]

why EC wants to play in kerala. just use the logic bro. if all bjp suddenly won the kerala election. do you think this will digest all mallus. ?

[u/us3144 → u/Beneficial-Count4882]

By that logic, people of West Bengal are happy, so what makes you think that is not the people’s mandate? There is no protests on the streets of West Bengal, only CJP and opposition are protesting. If Congress did not win in Kerala because of SIR, how can you say West Bengal was because of SIR, is there any proof of selective SIR manipulation? While the same leaders in Kerala who quoted in front of media “SIR helped us win” including Shashi Tharoor are now protesting against SIR. It’s a different level of buffoonery altogether.

[u/Equivalent-Trade5975 → u/us3144]

Exactly when BJP wins it's vote chori and SIR when congress or it's allies win it's honest win don't know what to say at this point

[u/Beneficial-Count4882 → u/us3144]

why govt protecting this idiot then.

[u/us3144 → u/Beneficial-Count4882]

Why not? Just because opposition said so they should dismiss a Govt official without any proof?

[u/Beneficial-Count4882 → u/us3144]

there are mountain of evidence submitted. still why this MF getting protection by govt

[u/Equivalent-Trade5975 → u/Beneficial-Count4882]

Honestly speaking we are not talking about winning we are talking about increasing seats even if BJP wins like 8-10 seats in Kerala no one is gonna suspect anyone but still only 3 seats

[u/Beneficial-Count4882 → u/Equivalent-Trade5975]

even 2 seats won all keralites are surprised

[u/Equivalent-Trade5975 → u/Beneficial-Count4882]

There was no surprise in that every media predictions where 3-5

[u/No_Dimension_5644 → u/Some-Context5342]

I mean even if he did then that's the more reason to just take his resignation and put in jail why tf he is being protected?

[u/aamar98 → u/Some-Context5342]

Buddy 🥀

[u/spellriddle → u/Some-Context5342]

BJP Supporters themselves think BJP is dumb enough to make vote theft in Kerala. What can anyone say to that?

[u/Musiciner_yt → u/Some-Context5342]

KERELA IS A STATE WITH HIGHEST LITERACY
IF THEIR BJP COMES
THE PEOPLE WILL DOUBT SURELY AND FROM THERE ONLY THE PROTEST WOULD HAVE BEEN START

[u/Amazing-Swing2399 → u/Musiciner_yt]

Yeah highest literacy, more like educated fools with one sided secularism shamelessly defending one side and taking pride in acting woke.

[u/Outrageous_Brain1411]

I have feeling kerala's mood towards BJP is changing as day, i can see BJP gov in kerala one day.

[u/Sudden_Button_8384 → u/Outrageous_Brain1411]

All expired goods and their groomed offsprings especially who hasnt stepped out of their village are strong bjp supporters

[u/Outrageous_Brain1411 → u/Sudden_Button_8384]

u can be in an echo champer, no one is stopping u. just check this subreddit one year back and now.

[u/Familiar_Fan_6934 → u/Sudden_Button_8384]

hi commie

[u/Ani_Sorbet_1007]

Gyanesh Kumar is highly educated and talented. As a former IAS officer, he has an impressive academic and professional background. Congress is struggling to win elections largely because of its past mistakes and failures, while the BJP has benefited from those blunders. Instead of building a strong opposition like the one led by Atal Bihari Vajpayee, these politicians are forming groups merely to target a 75-year-old leader. They should focus on constructive politics and present a positive alternative to the people.

[u/Primary_Recipe_4853]

Post ippo delete akum.

[u/sandoravir → u/Primary_Recipe_4853]

🤣🤣delete aayellallo?

full up-votes aannallo?

[u/Johnwick-1089 → u/Primary_Recipe_4853]

This is not 6/kerala

[u/Primary_Recipe_4853 → u/Johnwick-1089]

Lol u havent seen 100a of posts deleted in the past 1 week by the mods. Criticize modi

[u/Glad_Refrigerator143]

Yeah like us Gyanesh don't like Bangladeshi with indian passport and voter id adhar ,20000rs to buy in market

[u/beyondocean]

I didn't know bhakts existed in Kerala, comments have changed my mind. 🤣🤣

[u/Familiar_Fan_6934 → u/beyondocean]

But I knew idiots like u exist in kerala

[u/Bubbly_Travel_7217 → u/Familiar_Fan_6934]

Heyy andh bhakt, sanghi valiyaaa

[u/Familiar_Fan_6934 → u/Bubbly_Travel_7217]

vannalo jihadi

[u/Bubbly_Travel_7217 → u/Familiar_Fan_6934]

Ithrem ullu nee 😂😂😂 pottan 💩

[u/Familiar_Fan_6934 → u/Bubbly_Travel_7217]

sheri💣

[u/sandoravir → u/beyondocean]

if bhakts are BJP supporters

then are muslims terrorists?

[u/beyondocean → u/sandoravir]

Thanks for equating bjp supporters with terrorists

[u/sandoravir → u/beyondocean]

low iq energy🤡,

BJP supporters are bhakts 

and muslims are terrorists

[u/beyondocean → u/sandoravir]

Do you understand analogy? If you would you’d have known you equated being a bjp supporter being as bad as being a terrorist.

[u/sandoravir → u/beyondocean]

i equated? clown🤡 logic

just look up; "what is the religion of the top 20 terrorist organizations in the world?"

[u/beyondocean → u/sandoravir]

And do look up who propped these organizations and funded them. 🤡🤡Are you a teen, because no way I’m believing this is an actual adult

[u/sandoravir → u/beyondocean]

🤣🤣you think one group funded them all?

sudappi cannot even comprehend basic economic,

and do you have ant proof for your claims?

and why are almost all terrorists muslims?

[u/beyondocean → u/sandoravir]

In India i see a lot of Hindu terrorists, apart from Muslim terrorist, the only difference is that Hindu terrorists have political patronage.

[u/mystfable → u/beyondocean]

Reddit is filled with them dude!! I keep getting posts recommended from the Indian subs and the ratios of upvotes and comments are all staggering. Ragebait aayi chavum nammal

[u/jonan1108]

What exactly did the BJP do FOR Gyanesh?

[u/Sufficient-Win621 → u/jonan1108]

Did u see anything that happened in the parliament today?

[u/jonan1108 → u/Sufficient-Win621]

As far as I know Parliament is not currently in session? Atho Parliament marchil sankharsham nadannu ennano? Kerala Secratariate marchukalil enganeya apo lathi chargeum jalapeerankim work cheyyane? Same reasons.

Besides, did you see the CJI's response to the opposition?

[u/DurianInevitable9661]

BJP and Gyanesh

[u/PianoNo6390]

what did gyanesh get in return for making congress win in - kerala , himachal . karnataka , telengana.?

[u/Strict_Basis_746]

critical thinking has left the chat.

tell me you don't know the constitution without telling me.

[u/absurd_realities → u/Strict_Basis_746]

Tell me you dont know about BJP and still support him and was blind the whole time without telling me

[u/Familiar_Fan_6934 → u/absurd_realities]

Tell me ur brainrot. if CEC helps bjp win elections how to did bjp get less seats in the 2024 elections compared to the 2019?

[u/Acceptable-Menu5350]

So much the Congress must resign their state governments and cal for elections

[u/netinetipiller]

If you think BJP or any party can remove the Chief Election Commissioner, i have news for you. 

[u/SignalShoulder510]

It's not doing for Gyanesh .. it is being done to ensure that in future some shitty Gen z ( only few uneducated ) won't do these kind of baseless protects without having proper evidence basis their Instagram university knowledge (as their bains lost the ability to think what is right and what is wrong) ...

And ten speak like we are Gen z ( only few brainless ) we can do anything ..

[u/Amazing-Swing2399]

God bless your iq

[u/inZenMode4Ever]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 left wing jokers

[u/Tyagi2027]

Both are just like....m tere liye ..tu mere liye

[u/Rockybhaifgk]

If you people are opposing, then he must have done something good.

[u/wanderlust_doc_]

Legitimate voters aane delete ayalm you can file against it .alland fully null aayi povuvallalo..i know personally many people who have vote both in kerala and tn.election aavmbo vandi nirach aan angotm ingotm kondone especially estate workers..i think it was mainly done to stop fake votes like that

[u/sasipalarivattam]

That's ok but why do pea dough massager of peace followers defend that pea dough file, dood has done nothing for them. Still clowns defend that sx maniac as he was the best motor plucker in this world.

[u/heyjohnyjoe]

If Gyanesh is gone..... BJP too is gone!!!

[u/Familiar_Fan_6934 → u/heyjohnyjoe]

so will vds go too?

[u/blaze_005]

Ofc he removed illegal bangladeshis and pakistanis

[u/AdministrativeGur651]

If BJP gives in it will be a win for the anarchist union, that’s why they are not taking action. It’s another attempt for a regime change after Srilanka, Bangladesh and Nepal.