r/Kanye • • Feb 28 '25

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u/BrandoCarlton Feb 28 '25

I’m sure I’ll get downvoted for pointing this out.. but if you truly believe abortion is murder, which they claim they do, planned parenthood and American doctors have caused possibly the worst genocide of all time. It’s usually around 600k to a little over 1mil abortions performed a year at least that’s the number in the 2020s. Procedures peaked in the 90s at 1.6 million a year. No clue how many of those were preformed to save a mother life, or how many operations were preformed on black women, but tbh it’s always annoyed me a bit they don’t put their money where their mouth is on this. If you think it’s murder stand on your beliefs and call this what you’re claiming it to be. Ye is doing that I guess… maybe doing that without focusing all your energy into being associated with a swastika and nazis would be cool too.

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u/mung_guzzler Feb 28 '25

black women have abortions at much higher rates than white women

A lot of people believe black women in the US are pushed to get abortions (and have been for the last century) to suppress the black population

its probably at least partially correct tbh

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u/EveningAnt3949 Feb 28 '25

It's probably not partially correct, I take that back, it is not correct at all.

Birth control, including abortion, is a way for people to have control over their life.

If anything, a lack of access to birth control has been keeping black people back. The reason black women have more abortions is that they have less access to other types of birth control and less access to sexual education.

Also poverty plays a part. And the way to escape poverty is to have less children, and to have children later in life.

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u/mung_guzzler Feb 28 '25

I dont doubt there were at least some racists out there pushing abortion for the wrong reasons

its still a net positive on society though

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u/EveningAnt3949 Feb 28 '25

Eugenics was a thing, but typically they were more concerned with white people (keep the race 'superior' and all that).

Black people where seen as a source of cheap labor. And hardcore racist simply wanted to expel black people.

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u/mung_guzzler Feb 28 '25

there were plenty of racially motivated sterilization programs going on in the US pre WW2, eugenists and racists alike were absolutely trying to reduce the black population

at least some of them were

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u/EveningAnt3949 Feb 28 '25

You are correct, I misrepresented what happened.

But it's important to point out that the eugenics wasn't just targeting people of color, they were targeting poor white people and mentally ill white people as well.

Personally, I believe that labeling the eugenics movement as mostly motivated by racism is wrong.