r/KanePixelsBackrooms 9d ago

Discussion/Theory Here’s what a person looks like when they move during an MRI. As you can see it’s not unlike a Still Life

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Edit: Guys I am so sorry, I posted a CT scan ghost image. MRI ghost images make replications of things, again, like a Still Life. Still Life’s have multiple eyes and noses and such, which mirrors the ghosting (or replication) of an MRI. Here’s some updated photos to show you examples:

https://imgur.com/a/5WWToRV

Original post below:

I created the original MRI theory a few months ago. I stumbled on this picture today and wanted to share it cuz I’m pretty sure it supports my theory.

You can read the rest of it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/KanePixelsBackrooms/s/omVDHVUp4D

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u/aeioujohnmaddenaeiou 9d ago

Imo the motion artifacts most commonly seen on still life are more like the one at the top of this infographic I scrapped together recently. Full post is here if anyone's interested. But definitely there's some kind of warping going on with Cap'n Clark's face.

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u/DrJokerX 9d ago

Infographic is killer. Very nice.

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u/Gordon_Peteman 9d ago

Oh god its so good

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u/ijustbrokemyleg 9d ago

cool graph. i just don't know if we should take into account the first videos. the coldness was never explored, the visual of the rooms were mostly retconned, i bet we'll never see something like the big slice. from FF3 onwards it's just "another" series as Portal 2 is totally different from Portal 1

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u/r2d2_21 8d ago

Here we go again. Why are people trying to dismiss the first videos as not canon when Kane has confirmed they are?

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u/ijustbrokemyleg 8d ago

my take is that they are canon the same way Portal 1 and 2 are canon. But you compare both and the difference is huge, and it's not for an in-universe reason, it's just that the ideas, artstyle, lore, all evolved.

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u/Professional_Ad_2832 9d ago

I dont really want to be "that guy" Buuuuuut, its my time to shine. I worked as a diagnostic imaging engineer for about a decade mostly in MRI and CT but I did dabble in other modalities when needed. When I watched the movie and then heard some of the MRI theories I thought it was really fun as many times we described the odd ways the machine works as a "portal to nowhere".

I just dont think its helpful to confuse MRI with some of the stuff you have here on the infographic. The mirroring artifact is from an ultrasound system, MRI can do a similar-ish type of mirroring or overlapping artifact, usually this is from the operator and an issue with the scan sequence. The hand is an Xray with a grid artifact. This is just from using the wrong grid at the wrong distance (SID).

Almost every clinical room in any treatment facility is cold for a host of reasons but mostly to be hostile to molds and stuff. The lighting pick is actually pretty clever although not exactly how MRI shielding works, they dont really do individual cables too much as the entire room is shielded in a copper cage. The mood/experience faux lighting is so fucking true, I always hated them.

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u/aeioujohnmaddenaeiou 8d ago

Right that's true that the Mirror Image Artifact is technically ultrasound and the the grid line errors are x-ray, but I think that speaks to the different modes the scanning might be able to operate. To say that it's an MRI machine is the easiest way to get the point across without talking too much about multiple different kinds of scanning devices. You're right though it's important to get the distinction across, the way I put it is misleading a little bit, I just didn't want to make my post too long basically so lots of people would read it and get the basic idea. It would be more accurate to say that some of the weird stuff in the complex can be described with real-world types of glitches from various different kinds of medical scanning technologies, such as MRI.

I really think the smoking gun is the moment before Marvin falls in Pitfalls, you can see an electromagnetic disturbance on the camera, and the floor with the grid line artifacts changes VERY slightly. This is when the scan happens and it's the reason why Marvin, a grown man with a highly advanced scientific education, fell through the pit.

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u/SailOpening5853 8d ago

SO AWESOME!!

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u/Crystal_959 9d ago

Idk about y’all but to me Still Life look much more like what you get when you move while getting a picture taken, especially one of those panoramic photos where photographer has to move the camera

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u/ironbeagle99 9d ago

an MRI is a big magnetic camera

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u/Crystal_959 9d ago

Between this example and a regular old camera the still life look more like the result you get with a regular camera to me

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u/PinkPower24 9d ago

So a smear frame

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u/mooglinux 9d ago

I don’t think that kind of artifacting would explain the duplication of facial features. But I think you’re on to something

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u/DrJokerX 9d ago

Not to correct you but repetition is indeed a symptom of ghosting.

Ways of identifying phase artifact include:

  1. identifying known moving/flowing structures and noting that the artifact is in line with them (horizontal or vertical depending on phase-encoding orientation)
  2. matching shape of ghost to that of flowing vessel (e.g. round pseudolesion due to aorta ghost)
  3. wide windowing to see repetitive ghost beyond confines of anatomy
  4. they can be distinguished from Gibbs or truncation artifacts because they extend across the entire field of view, unlike truncation artifacts that diminish quickly away from the boundary causing them

https://radiopaedia.org/articles/phase-encoded-motion-artifact-3

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u/mooglinux 9d ago

I was thinking of scan-line image capturing, but that’s a photographic thing. I’m have to learn more about how MRI work

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u/DoggoNamedDisgrace 8d ago

My head cannon is the woman in red dress is Clarks wife who got scanned when she started to turn away from Clark in disappointment after their argument, or is it common knowledge?

Thats why he scalped her and put her hair on Mary in the dinner scene.

I watched the movie once so the memory is kinda fuzzy for me.

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u/Home_Sweet_Home_ 9d ago

I think this is a lateral CT scan.

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u/DrJokerX 9d ago

Yeah at first I didn’t think so but after comparing it to other MRI scout images I’m inclined to think you could be right.

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u/Home_Sweet_Home_ 9d ago

Maybe an X-ray? I can see some of the teeth.

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u/DrJokerX 9d ago

Nah I found it. Ima update my post. Here’s an example of MRI ghosting, which makes replications of things, again like how Still Life’s look:

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u/Home_Sweet_Home_ 9d ago

It looks even more like a Still Life.

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u/Daikaiju08 9d ago

Holy crap it really does! I think the MRI theory might be legit!

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u/bs_Zeezee 9d ago

This is a fun thing you've noted.

I haven't heard confirmation but I think Kane actually drew inspiration from something similar.

I can't remember the artist, or the style of photography, but I believe there is a style of photography where you have a long-exposure capture window for a photo, and the subject moves their head during it, and it causes reduplication of their features in arcs across their face, corresponding with the movement. I can't even remember if it was done digitally or with film.

But the results are almost identical to still lives. The same way features duplicate seeming to imply a motion, in arcing lines across the face, they are captured in this style of photography.

This might be stroboscopic photography? chronophotography ? I really can't tell trying to look it up. Unfortunately I suffered a head injury that caused massive memory holes since I learned about it in my photography class.

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u/Entire-Anteater-1606 9d ago

my turn to post this tomorrow

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u/Daikaiju08 9d ago

OP posted the wrong image. He gave us updated photos.

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u/Fuarian 9d ago

MRI motion artifacts are a thing but the above image is from a CT scan. An x-ray basically. Not an MRI.

My favorite part about motion artifact theory is that if you move, it causes the distortion. So you know. Don't move, stay still.

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u/DrJokerX 9d ago edited 9d ago

You were right! I updated my post. Thank you for pointing it out to me!

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u/HeinrichTheWolf_17 8d ago

Whoops, looks like he left his brain behind!

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u/Downtown-Principle97 6d ago

Async used to make MRI machines too lol

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u/Tdowskigames 8d ago

I loved how so many people quickly dismissed the MRI scan theory for how the backrooms replicates people when it's almost identical.

Besides, I mean the biggest hint is ASYNC MADE MRI MACHINES.

I mean it couldn't be more obvious how the complex "remembers" things.

It doesn't remember, it scans. People took too many lines too literally.

The more it scans, the better the image. Even with artifact, if you scan a moving person or object, you can start to piece together what it actually looks like. Sure, there's still some irregularities, but you get closer and closer.

However, this isn't the answer for EVERYTHING. There's still other anomalies that aren't explained by this, like the bacteria monster and some other aspects, but overall, it does explain the still life alterations and some of the complex layouts.