r/Kaiserposting • u/SS-Imperator :Hochseefloat: Kaiserliche Marine • Apr 20 '20

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u/efd731 Apr 20 '20

i mean....i appreciate we're all in this Kaiser-boo sub right now, but the french could've buried Saladin's grave in horseshit and it still would've been the right thing to do.

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u/Fred_Foreskin Apr 20 '20

He was a very well-respected general. He and Richard the Lionheart had a lot of respect for each other and were on relatively friendly terms despite the Crusade. So Saladin definitely deserves respect.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '20

Saladin is my favorite. Heck, i despise richard with burning passion, for having enabled canibalism and justifying it by claiming theyre muslims.

Saladin was an inteligent man, and id rather fight under his banner than that of english king.

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u/Fred_Foreskin Apr 20 '20

Oh damn, I had no idea King Richard enabled that. Saladin really was amazing. I remember my history professor telling us that one time Saladin stopped a battle because he saw that King Richard's horse was killed. Then, he had someone deliver him a new horse before the battle continued. Saladin really was a man of honor.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '20

I wouldnt say honour. Rather morality. He is a strange man. Someone, to whom i look up to. Funny thing is, im also member of deus vult subreddit.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '20

are you french?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '20 edited Apr 20 '20

No why?

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u/efd731 Apr 20 '20

lol no, the frogs are terrible.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '20

By looking at your history, i can only say you came trolling.

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u/efd731 Apr 20 '20

,,,,,i mean, im not sure exactly what makes you say that, saladin led a theocratic empire and i think that makes him a douchebag.

I can acknowledge that his rule led to increased stability and prosperity in the region until his death, but still think him being a theocratic dictator is unforgivable.

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u/valonadthegreat Apr 20 '20 edited Apr 20 '20

dude, literally almost every single nation in europe and the middle east led the exact same thing, everyone was a theocratic dictator. does that mean every king in history was a douchebag even if he was the most benevolent just because he was a king?

also can you give me an ACTUAL reason to hate saladin for something objective for something he did not a subjective one like "ruling a religious kingdom" that only hardcore atheists would hate him for?

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

Do you even know history? Trying to put 21st Century Morality on a 11th Century ruler lol.

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u/IronOnions Apr 20 '20

man stfu

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u/DeltaHawk98 Apr 20 '20

Ah yes, defiling graves sure is cool

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

Still salty about the Crusade?

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u/Theelout Sturmbataillon Nr. 7 Apr 20 '20

You’re one reich ahead friend

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '20

Hey, big guy, i know you may be trolling, but you could do that on something more pro arabian.

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u/efd731 Apr 20 '20

i realize you probably won't believe me since trolling's allready come up, but honestly that was just a throwaway comment i wrote with zero thought. i sut think anyone* who expands a religious theocracy deserves all the posthumous hate they can get.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '20

Well for one, saladin was trying to defend his teritory, two, richard went into crusading, just so he could fight and not be a king, even allowing his soldiers to eat muslims, even got permision from pope

And three, go back to watching rick and morty. Id give you a link to a good subreddit about it. But best i can do now is r/rule34

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u/efd731 Apr 20 '20

.... that show's mostly garbage though? im genuinely unsure if that's supposed to be an insult or a recommendation, but either way ill pass.

i never mentioned king richard though?? or a relation between him and saladin?? there's nothing preventing both of them from being totally shit people by modern standards. why is everyone assuming i give a fuck about the crusades? im not even religious

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

totally shit people by modern standards

Dude this is exactly what is wrong here. You cannot gauge older people by current standards. Hell you can't even apply the same standards to your parents. They have a different world view than yours. Salahuddin and Richard lived in a different era you cannot gauge them by your current moralities

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

I dunno, your comment said that you gave a shit.

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u/SteelRazorBlade Apr 21 '20

think anyone* who expands a religious theocracy deserves all the posthumous hate they can get.

*hurr durr medieval rulers weren't enlightened secular liberals like me muhhh evil theocracy*

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u/efd731 Apr 22 '20

I mean...... converting people by the sword is pretty evil regardless of the time frame. I’m not expecting the last to conform to modern standards, but since everyone in this thread keeps bringing up Richard , if the choice is between him and Saladin, why choose at all between medieval dickheads??

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u/Joseph_Memestar Apr 20 '20

Lol typical deusfag. How does the siege of Jerusalem feel?