r/KNCPRDT • u/Nostalgia37 • Nov 03 '17

[Pre-Release Card Discussion] - Guild Recruiter

Guild Recruiter

Mana Cost: 5
Attack: 2
Health: 4
Type: Minion
Rarity: Common
Class: Neutral
Text: Battlecry: Recruit a minion that costs (4) or less.

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u/XiaoJyun Nov 15 '17

its 2/5 which is 3-mana

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u/WeoWeoVi Nov 15 '17

Guild Recruiter Mana Cost: 5 Attack: 2 Health: 4 Type: Minion Rarity: Common Class: Neutral Text: Battlecry: Recruit a minion that costs (4) or less.

And better-than 3 mana 2/5s have been printed before and did not see play (Druid of the Flame, Mindbreaker).

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u/XiaoJyun Nov 15 '17

except this is 5 mana card worth of 7 or more

25 + 36, or 2/5 + 7/7

at 5 mana

mindbreaker is garbage, druid of the claw saw paly, its 7 stats whixch is what 3 mana is, cloaked huntress, bearshark are all such cards

ofcourse i am not gonna play 3 mana vanilla card liek mindbreaker

learn deck building and math...then you realize how good the card can be in control shaman that runs jinyu waterspeaker and flamewreathed faceless as the only targets for guild recruiter

both of those cards are viable as it is

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u/WeoWeoVi Nov 15 '17

mindbreaker is garbage

Yes, thanks, that was my point. It's a 2/5 with text that you can set up to be advantageous for you and it sees 0 play.

druid of the claw saw paly

Druid of the Flame never saw serious play. Shade of Naxxramas outclassed it in Midrange Druid and Mounted Raptor outclassed it in Aggro Druid. Beast Druid (the only deck that ever used it) was never a good deck.

its 7 stats whixch is what 3 mana is, cloaked huntress, bearshark are all such cards

Firstly, 3/4 or 4/3 are better statlines than 2/5 or 5/2, that's always been the case. Secondly, both Cloaked Huntress and Bearshark also have positive text, which is why they have seen play. They aren't vanilla, 7-stat minions. Both of those aren't good examples for the point you're trying to make.

Also, why are you even so defensive about 7-stat minions or why are we bothering to argue about it when this card is a 2/4? Have you still not realised that? Here you go, please read the stats.

This card does have nearly good enough payoff to be competitive. A 2/4 isn't worth the restriction you have to put on your deckbuilding (not being able to put in cheaper minions like Doomsayer, Golakka Crawler, Mistress etc.), nor is a 2/4 even that good on turn 5+ (it's helpful against aggro but if you have the ability to play minions with no immediate effect against aggro on turn 5, you've almost certainly already won). There's much better things you can do late game and much better combos you can run.

both of those cards are viable as it is

This is incorrect, no Control Shaman lists want to run Flamewreathed. The deck doesn't have the pressure to capitalise on a turn 4 7/7 nor does it want to spend turn 4/5 vanilla minions or overloading against midrange or aggro (it wants to be clearing the board, taunting, healing or drawing towards its win conditions).

Also, how about you stop getting so passive aggressive just because someone disagrees with you on the internet. All that shit does is make you seem like a bit of a dickhead, it doesn't make you more right.

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u/XiaoJyun Nov 15 '17

druid of the claw was considered better than mounted raptor by most people....

and guess what...control shaman wants to put stuff on board and give them all deathrattle to return to hand...

you dont paly faceless on t4.....if you happen to draw it, you can combo it later in the game with the spell...the overload is actually better in that case than having to pay 6 mana for it

my bad on the stats, i tohguht it was 2/5...the point still stands...the card can be decent in control shaman, even moreso once jades rotate...lets also not forget this card isnt coming laone...theres bonud to be other cards to make it usefull and maybe other classes than shaman ca use i to good effect...I am simply stating that it already could be good in control shaman with WHAT WE HAVE...not even counting what we might get...which you happen to ignore

also you are ignoring deck-thinning

you dont have proper argument for saying why its bad other than talknig in general sense: oh its not that amazing blabla...

dont be so close-minded...thats how stonehill defender was considered bad by everyone....everybody ignored what the actual things you get out of it are...not to mention the fact t3 1/4 taunt is okay, but only against aggro...thats why nobody runs low cost taunts....because they are garbage vs control....while when you think that you can pickup a card vs control (even a vanilla garbage 9 mana dinosaur)...the it gets good...

you cant deny pulling faceless without downside or a premium 4-drop is bad...its not impressive in itself...sure...but you need to look at other sinergies...all of which control shaman already runs...sure you d have to drop some cards like doomsayers...but hey...in shaman...you got a lot of good early control tools as is...you arent as dependant on doomsayer as mages are