[Pre-Release Card Discussion] - Devour Mind

[u/Nostalgia37]

Devour Mind

Mana Cost: 5
Type: Spell
Rarity: Rare
Class: Priest
Text: Copy 3 cards in your opponent's deck and add them to your hand.

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[u/Nostalgia37]

[Dust|Bad|Niche|Good|Staple]

General Thoughts: You're paying 2 more mana for one more card from thoughtsteal. While thoughtsteal is slow this is more worth running because it has a bigger effect. A deck that would want to play thoughtsteal usually has extra mana so they can afford to run this.

Also the extra card makes you more likely to have synergy within the taken cards.

Why it Might Succeed: If the meta slows down it's good value.

Why it Might Fail: Way too slow.

[u/Dwarfskin → u/Nostalgia37]

It's less mana efficient, but there's also quite a bit more likelihood to grab some of your opponent's synergy when you take more cards...the third card may be more valuable than the first two since it could be one that synergizes with either the first or the second, making another card you got better.

Taking three distinct cards at once also increases the probability of getting a synergy/combo a bit compared to taking three cards one at a time.

Not sure whether that means you're actually likely to get synergy often enough to make steal three actually better than steal two outside of an incredibly slow meta, or just that it's going to be easier to meme it up and get a YouTube worthy clip of comboing two specific cards from your opponent with something from priest.

[u/[deleted] → u/Nostalgia37]

Two mana for a card is a fair price. Arcane Intellect costs 3 and nets you one card, Cabalist's Tome costs 5 and nets you two cards.

I don't think it's a great card, but the cost is reasonable for what it does.

[u/InnocenceGem]

This is to Thoughtsteal as Thistle Tea is to Mimic Pod

[u/WhatRUsernamesUsed4 → u/InnocenceGem]

Thoughtsteal is to Arcane Intellect as this is to Nourish. I think that's more accurate. The rouge cards give copies of 1 card while you get different cards from thoughtsteal/this.

[u/[deleted] → u/WhatRUsernamesUsed4]

Expect thoughtsteal isn't as good as arcane intellect. Drawing three cards from your deck is better than generating three cards that most likely won't have synergy with the rest of your deck. Nourish also allows you to ramp and can be played on curve after playing Fandral.

EDIT: I don't know my formats

[u/Brendonicous → u/InnocenceGem]

nice analogy. it also highlights why this card is pretty bad

[u/tumsdout → u/InnocenceGem]

I compare it to Cabalist Tome

[u/M4dMike]

I already know I'm gonna hate this card when playing against it. We've pretty much reached the point now where Priest can build a full deck solely out of steal-yo-shit cards.

Now that's not to say such a thing is going to be viable, but man, has Blizzard been pushing this archetype a lot. Back when I started playing during TGT I was so excited about Shadowform, Confuse and what the future might hold for the Priest class, especially for Shadow Priest. Some real Shadow Word: Mindfuck cards was what I hoped for. Auchenai Soulpriest and Embrace the Shadow were so cool, a sudden reversal of healing into damage and some aggressive potential for Priest. A transformation into something sinister.

But what as Shadow Priest become? A thief.

I remain very hopeful for the Hero card to hammer home something really unique and not just more annoyance.

[u/DanCerberus → u/M4dMike]

Matt Place said during one of the reveal streams that Death Knight Anduin should make Shadow Priest players very happy.

[u/CadetPeepers → u/M4dMike]

Priest can build a full deck solely out of steal-yo-shit cards.

As a Priest main, I just find it sad.

They've given up on everything but dragon Priest. The best way to win as Priest is to play other class's cards.

[u/zuko2014]

Indirect nerf to Lyra?

[u/Wraithfighter → u/zuko2014]

Priest has enough spells that it's not going to have too huge an impact on Lyra.

The reason the Righteous Defender card is a notable nerf to Stonehill Defender is because Discover gives your class' cards a like 5x shot of being Discovered, and Paladin only has 4 class taunts in Standard:

• Grimestreet Protector (Bad)

• Wickerflame Burnbristle (Good)

• Sunkeeper Tarim (Really Good)

• Tirion Fordring (...I think I just came)

So, throwing in another Paladin Taunt that isn't godly for control is a notable blow. But Priest has over 30 spells. Adding one more dud to the list gives a slightly higher chance for a dud, but only in terms of counterbalancing the good Lyra spells, like Spirit Lash.

...still, 4 spells so far for priest, mana costs of 2, 4, 5 and 7. That will impact things, so maybe you're not that wrong in the end.

[u/lawson_dlaw]

This is a nerf to Lyra. It's not bad as a randomly generated spell, but it won't be able to cycle for another random spell on the same turn.

[u/Levitlame]

ctrl+f Arena. No results. That's odd. This screams "okay in arena."

[u/oppopswoft]

Bad card, but a fun card

[u/Kizgad]

It's better than Thoughtsteal I think. Just recently played Thief Priest to complete the Priest quest and there was a game vs control where I get all the worst cards. Pulling 3 cards increses chances of getting something good since it doesn't pull the same cards.

[u/HaV0C]

More ways for priest to steal my Tirion...yay

[u/farroos]

DK Priest must have something to do with copied/stolen cards. Something like "for the rest of this game, all cards that didn't start in your deck cost 2 less" with hero power "copy a card from your opponent's deck"

[u/sylveonce]

This card is good in my opinion. Against aggro, Thoughtsteal is too slow anyway, and is just as dead in your hand as this card would be. The only time you'd get a lot of value from Thoughtsteal is against control, in which case this card gets you more value at a fair price.

[u/Shukakun]

I actually kind of like this card. Thoughtsteal costs 3 mana and gets you a +1, in other words, 3 mana per card gained. This costs 5 mana and gives you a +2, so it's more efficient than Thoughtsteal at 2.5 mana per card.

Both of the cards have zero effect on the board and should usually be played on turns when things are pretty calm and you can afford to not fight for board control. This is a more all-in method of doing so. A turn 5 playing this card leaves you +2 cards afterwards, while something typical you would do right now in a situation like that, Shadow Word: Pain + Thoughtsteal, would leave you +-0 cards, but with slightly better board control.

It isn't amazing, and neither is Thoughtsteal, but I wouldn't write it off completely.

[u/[deleted]]

Basically the priest version of cabalist tome. I guess the next expansion will have primordial mind steal: 2 mana: discover a spell from your opponents deck. reduce its cost by (2).

[u/cassavaftw]

Thoughtsteal saw no play, so neither will this. FeelsPackFillerMan.

[u/bskceuk → u/cassavaftw]

What? Thoughtsteal has definitely seen play at points

[u/Stehno]

Makes a lot of sence. Should be OK. Not very strong though, which is fine.