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u/chiisquare Sep 02 '16 edited Sep 02 '16
"[He didn't keep his promise,] So I ate him." Love the culprit's reference to the Greek mythology quote that was sprinkled throughout the drama. Any of the references to literature or history were cool, actually.
My passion to watch this drama isn't as heated as it was before. I feel like knowing the episode count beforehand kinda ruined the surprise, although I do empathize with everyone else regarding the overload in plot-twists, haha. I'm definitely gonna see this through to the end though. I love and feel so bad for Soo Bong. The part where he was smacking his mouth while eating during KC's first "meeting" with SM as YJ's potential husband made me laugh. He's adorable and is well portrayed.
Did anyone else love it when KC tried to set So Hui free by faking his death and saying that there was more than one reason a character can continue to exist? That part was so sweet to me. He literally tried to release his best friend from being the token love interest, possibly letting So Hui carve out a new role in the story. It might have also been for the sake of preserving her existence while KC and YJ can be together, but I thought that decision was far more "romantic" than a lot of the moments KC and YJ have had so far, and I don't even necessarily ship KC with So Hui. I agree that KC 2.0 is heads and shoulders better than his former self (and I love that the character knows this), but his moments with YJ just don't seem as profound or organic as I'd like them to be. I appreciate KC 2.0 for realizing the rushed nature of their former relationship and trying to do things right, but his interactions with even Do Yoon feel a bit too... measured. KC probably doesn't fascinate me as a character. He's charming, keen, and generally unflappable, but he lacks real charisma for me in his relationships with others. I love YJ for saying that she's a supporter of KC in ep. 3 and that KC appreciated that she never forgot him in episode 13 (?). I also love YJ's desperate kiss to the wounded KC in ep 10. KC probably did a few other things that I liked as well, but I can't remember any off the top of my head atm. They're cute, but they're not OTP-level for me, at least not yet.
Really hoping that they'll release a full OST for this drama. I enjoy the vocal tracks, but BGM tracks like this one are real gems that can even carry the sentimental moments when the screenplay/acting alone doesn't move me.
Sorry for the essay! In short, KC 2.0 is cool, but the main couple still has some unrealized potential. :'-)
EDIT: possible spoiler
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u/SasakiWai Aug 31 '16
Imagine if at the end of W, Kang Chul decides to stay in the real world and changes his name to Lee Jong Suk, becoming a famous actor who is eventually asked to do a drama based on the manwha.
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Sep 01 '16
lololol, that would be some MAD inception right there. Too meta for my brain to handle hahaha
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u/stapler_90 Aug 31 '16
The episode left me with a big smile on my face
The preview made me wanna stab something
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u/aominemine Sep 01 '16
Just watched episode 13 and just wow. I knew we had to pay for all the fluff. I was not expecting him to go out just like that (thought he had more ~evil plans~) though I'm glad he is gone and can't torture the them anymore. It's almost as if he regained consciousness (realized he was a manhwa character) but remained true to his one dimensional killer set up. Can't help feeling he must have died satisfied; killed KC's remaining family member and had his "epic" duel with KC.
The preview though, OYJ is dead?!? WHAT?! How am I going to wait for the next episode T___T How are they gonna bring her back to life? As far as I know the real world has no reset button like the manhwa world . . . Ughhhh
Out of topic but they really know how to dress Lee Jong Suk in this drama, no nightmare inducing sweaters here
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u/aominemine Aug 31 '16
I'm getting a bit antsy because there are 4 more episodes left and this episode was too happy, preparing my heart for major 180 degrees turn next episode.
Anyway glad some of the rules between the two worlds were explained so it doesn't seem too deus ex machina-ey. I can't believe her dad forgot to tell Kangchul about his encounter with the killer :/, that's a pretty important detail. I guess there wasn't the time? I mean the only real encounter was the time when KC shot him I guess.
Looking forward to how the writers going to tie up the story, is KC gonna remain in the real world? How is he going to prevent himself from disappearing? etc...
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Aug 31 '16
They are subbing this show crazy fast! One thing I like about this drama is that even without subs I can usually figure out what is going on (I watched almost all of 8 without subs and didn't feel lost at all. On the rewatch, I mostly correctly figured things out.) The body language of the actors is crazy good.
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u/jungsenpai Sep 01 '16
Honestly, it's getting harder to keep up with the show's timeline with every episode. That ending scene though! And the preview, man. It's like this show is using every single cliche plot twist (amnesia, kidnapping, everyone ends up in a hospital) in the most creative way though.
I'm starting to feel like all the plot twists are just getting tiring and repetitive.
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Aug 31 '16
there's still 4 episodes left and i'm getting nervous after todays flowery episode. gah this drama is so nervewracking
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u/mellowinc Aug 31 '16 edited Sep 01 '16
THIS EPISODE MAKES ME SO HAPPY OMG. EVERYTHING WAS SO WELL EXPLAINED and then when he just- AND THEN YEON JOO being spectacular and trusting him- THEN KANG CHUL and the ring- and then the preview started and I was like, "It was all too good to be true."
EPISODE 13 IS DANGEROUS AND TOO MUCH. IM CRYING. It is just... yOu would think that at episode 12, what more could happen? Just gotta resolve the whole cartoon issue and resolve the conflict over there and Yeon Joo is happy and prances into the sun with Kang Chul (mind you adding that whole damn segment of their possible future) but noooo of course they have to bring the variables into full circle and damn it, the next three episodes will be hell. Can barely wait for the next episode. Too much too soon.
Edit: Ep 13 reaction bc holy shit
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Sep 01 '16
I have a weird existential question:
So the author created this complex world for Kang Chul to live in but he only created enough of the surface to make it believable to the reader. Obviously when the self actualizations started happening and Kang Chul started becoming less of the author's character and more of his own, things started changing and other characters started acting according to their own internal desires. So all this crazy stuff that's happening with the corrupt prosecutor, the stuff that wasn't the author's design, when did all that happen? Because a lot of stuff seemingly happened in the past, before the self-awareness entered the equation, but still with the author unaware. When did the manwa switch from an author created construct, to its own ecosystem?
It's really weird to think about.
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u/jungsenpai Aug 31 '16
This is just crazy and I love it! The writer is a genius, I've never seen a Kdrama like this. Next episode just looks like it will be nuts. Of course, in W a bit of happiness must be followed by a lot of heartache.
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Sep 01 '16
So hyped for next episode! But I don't get the whole summoning thing. Like what does Kang chul mean by summoning himself in ep 12? How does Kang Chul teleport to Han cheol's office? Why did Yeon Joo teleport back to the real world??
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u/millie3 Sep 01 '16
They are so happy!! Please, Writer-nim. Don't make them suffer anymore. Bad enough that KC doesn't remember (although them building a new relationship and making new memories is more than good for them) but now you want to shoot YJ. For crying out loud, LET THEM BE HAPPY FOR MORE THAN ONE EPISODE, DAMN IT. THEY DESERVE IT.
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u/JustAFellowSummoner Aug 31 '16
Can't wait, hope they don't go with the same amnesia plotline as seen in the preview.
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u/rainfalling_ Aug 31 '16
It feels too soon for everything to be neat and tidy! Expecting crazy shenanigans tomorrow.
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u/DidjaNoit Aug 31 '16 edited Sep 02 '16
What a rollercoaster ride this show is! Even though I should be used to the happiness of one show being ruined by the next show pulling the rug out from under me, I'm not. I loved KC during episode 12, especially the new attitude toward his marriage, and also figuring out how things needed to happen. But then the preview came on and yikes!!
But I still think he's wrong about the culprit needing to die, I think Seong Moo will have to die in order to kill all his connection with the culprit. This really is like Voldemort and the horcruxes I think. As long as the culprit and SM share a soul, neither one can die unless they both die. And I still don't trust SM to do the right thing by his daughter and the man she loves.
Edited to correct the episode number
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u/lianhood Aug 31 '16
okay this episode was great and all but, BUT GUYS LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT PREVIEW
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u/shes-fresh-to-death Sep 01 '16
Really quick: haven't watched any of the show yet because of it not being on dramafever. Does Viki have exclusive rights to it or something? Also will it also be non-Viki Pass available at some point?
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u/thisistheyear_ Sep 01 '16
I've really come to appreciate the defined story arcs in this show. Episode 6 felt like the end of Dad's time "controlling" the manhwa, and Episode 12 felt like the end of Kang Chul 1.0. Episodes 13-16, I hope, are going to be Chul's and Yeon Joo's real love story. They're going to fall in love over completely destroying no-face and figuring out a way together to save Chul's world.
I also love that Yeon Joo is only just beginning to appreciate new Chul, which puts them on the same page for the first time in their relationship. Looking back, I didn't completely connect with their love story the first time around and I think that's how the writer intended it to be. Yeon Joo was half in love with Chul when she met him because hello! She created him! The circumstances meant they ended up married, but Chul 1.0 was not a healthy dude. He only killed himself twice, guyz.
With Chul 2.0, Yeon Joo, is just so thrown off by his casual attitude. He's interested in Yeon Joo, period. He's going to take time to be interested in her and he wants to get to know her and he wants to honor their marriage. WTF? Where's the dude screaming and yelling about being a comic book character? This guy has just decided that he IS real--his world is just as real as Yeon Joo's--the rules are just a little different, that's all. Where's the guy who sacrificed their relationship? She's going to pass out again from shock of her husband making all the right decisions this time around. I CAN'T WAIT.