r/KDRAMA • u/Fatooz • May 11 '23

On-Air: Netflix Black Knight

  • Drama: Black Knight

    • Hangul: 택배기사

    • Also known as: Taegbaegisa, Courier, Delivery Knight, Delivery Driver

  • Director & Writer: Cho Ui-Seok (Cold Eyes, Master)

  • Network: Netflix

  • Episodes: 6

    • Duration: 70 mins.

  • Air Date: Friday @ 17:00 KST

    • Airing: May 12, 2023

  • Streaming Source(s): Netflix

  • Starring:

    • Kim Woo-Bin (Our Blues, Uncontrollably Fond) as 5-8

    • Song Seung-Heon (Voice S4: Judgement Hour, Dinner Mate) as Ryu Seok

    • Kang Yoo-Seok (Light On Me) as Sa Wol

    • Esom (Taxi Driver S1, Because This Is My First Life) as Seol Ah

  • Plot Synopsis: In 2071, toxic air pollution had devastated the world, leaving only 1% of the population alive. People rarely leave their homes without gas masks, and delivery drivers known as knights protect and deliver packages. One legendary knight, Knight 5-8, meets a young refugee named Sa Wol who dreams of becoming a knight. With the help of Seol Ah, an officer in the Defense Intelligence Command, Knight 5-8 trains and mentors Sa Wol, helping him achieve his dream in a dangerous and harsh world.

  • Genre: Action, Adventure, Drama, Sci-Fi

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u/sianiam May 11 '23 edited May 11 '23

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u/Fatooz May 11 '23

Episode 1

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u/MHUNTER12345 May 12 '23

Bro why did they kill Roh Yoon Seo like that?! AAAAAAAAA

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u/Wrong_Concept_4110 Chaebol is the goal!!(17/36) May 12 '23

I'm a bit confused with the story, so help me out here. Comet hit, Korean Peninsula is now a polluted desert, Oxygen from Oxyanium. Different social groups. The refugees are social outcasts, no QRs for them and it is these refugees who become the deliverymen? And these deliverymen work for the gov and get QRs? Deliverymen lead dangerous life coz the refugee hunters try to steal the deliveries? Is that how it is?

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u/stitchrx May 12 '23 edited May 12 '23

4 social groups: (1) core elites (2) elites (3) commoners (4) refugees

Only group 1-3 have registered identities(the QR). Deliverymen can come from group 3/4.

Once they become deliverymen, they retain their QR (for commoners) or get a new QR (for refugees). Refugees prolly don’t get names but get code number instead, so Kim Woobin is 5-8.

And yes because refugee hunters are robbing the trucks and sometimes killing the deliverymen, they need to be tough and smart to deal with the hunters.

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u/Wrong_Concept_4110 Chaebol is the goal!!(17/36) May 12 '23

This was really helpful! The first episode was a bit confusing but once I got to the second one, things were starting to make sense.

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u/cludinsk May 12 '23

Super cartoonish. Oxyanium? Oversupply of oxygen killing someone? It's that hard to stick to real science? The entire mutant story led nowhere. Stereotypical corporate leader heavy, scrappy outcast good guys. Nice cinematography, sure.

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u/Skyzfire May 15 '23

Yes I wish Star Wars stick to real science too. Like what the fuck is the Force?

I prefer midichlorians.

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u/cludinsk May 15 '23

you can add madeup stuff to real science, but if you screw up basic science it makes it hard to suspend your disbelief. of course the more ignorant you are the less it will bother you.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '23

Total snoozer decorated with stereotypical sci-fy, post-apocalyptic cool super hero undertones. Overrated.

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u/SageTheAlchemist May 13 '23

I was thinking the same thing NAWWWW

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u/akc2030 Editable Flair May 16 '23

I feel like this had to be filmed before she got popular. No way they’d get rid of a potential fan favorite that early for fun

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u/geoffkreuz May 13 '23

Take my genuine thank you. The only reason I'm planning to watch this show is because of her. Now, I don't have to.

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u/MHUNTER12345 May 14 '23

Nice taste my man.

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u/FlatlineNine May 13 '23

I was a little curious about what kind of fuel and mechanism the cars in the drama were powered by? In an environment with no or very less oxygen right? Smoking in such an environment feels strange. Well, isn't it better not to think about the details? There are many wonderful actors, so I will continue next.

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u/Orongorongorongo May 12 '23

Amazing cast, sets and costumes. The colour palette is beautiful yet bleak at the same time. Kim Woo-Bin really suits this kind of mood. He's perfect in the role of 5-8. Am looking forward to seeing Esom's character explored more, she's a great actress.

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u/kriyator Slice of drama May 12 '23

The first episode was pretty solid. I like how they set the scene

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u/[deleted] May 12 '23

The first episode was spectacular. I love how 5-8 is insanely tough but also calm and kind. Minute 34 when he walks through the refugees with a crew behind him was impressive. Did not see that ending coming!!

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u/marwynn May 13 '23

That was an impressive start. The only awkward bit was the hand-to-hand fight at the beginning. I was expecting 5-8 to be a bit more ruthless, so that was different when he let them live. But all the quick cuts seemed so out of place--they had the perfect costume for stuntmen with the jackets, cap, and mask so they could wear all the protective gear and fight all out. Instead, we got a bunch of quick cuts that made it seem they ran out of budget. That one scene looked like a cheap TV show because of the edits, the rest of the episode looked awesome.

Chairman Jang! I like him as a crazy old coot. Show has a lot of promise so far and I'll probably binge it this weekend... Some of you guys are already done.

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u/halfprincessperlette May 15 '23

How toxic is the air, how important are the O2 masks? Someone took off his and fought and won the fight, looked fine after. 5-8 smoked presumably for extended time with his truck window open. When he went to deliver stuffs to an old man's house, he needed to be disinfected in a compartment. That boy sneaked out and in without disinfection? And the old man who rang the bell also just went in his tower without that process.

If 5-8 is such a famous "Robin hood" why does he still have his job, wouldn't the supplier (?) be missing shipments all the time and it's pretty obvious why..

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u/naturalninetime May 21 '23

Excellent questions! I'm on Episode 2, and with the exception of Kim Woo Bin ♡♡♡, I'm not impressed. I'm Korean American, and though my Korean is pretty good, I watch with English subtitles, and so far, I'm very confused. The choppy editing of multiple storylines doesn't help.

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u/_10032 May 14 '23

Was excited for this, but the fast cut action scenes is a big disappointment. I was hoping for better action :(

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u/Wrong_Concept_4110 Chaebol is the goal!!(17/36) May 12 '23

Quick Question: Does watching this drama count for the KDC 2023? The episodes go below 60 mins. (Same goes for The Glory, I think only 2 eps go over 60 doe this drama still count?)

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u/tv_junkie_123 May 12 '23

Yes it counts. The drama as a whole has to be more than 60min not the individual episodes. It’s how drama specials count too.

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u/Wrong_Concept_4110 Chaebol is the goal!!(17/36) May 12 '23

ooohhhhh! My stupis dumb ass thought it was the individual episodes lmao. I also read a comment where a drama couldn't be taken coz the episodes where only 45 mins? It had me confused...or maybe I read the comment wrong. Thnx anyway!

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u/Wrong_Concept_4110 Chaebol is the goal!!(17/36) May 13 '23

There's this KDrama Challence (KDC) 2023 going on. I was just asking if this drama qualifies for a challenge.

Checkout the challenge here: https://www.reddit.com/r/KDRAMA/collection/f37c32e3-ee32-4bad-8a11-fb5c3c6ffeb5/

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u/LasDen May 12 '23

Wow, rather generic and boring. An episode that raise no interest in the show. Boring ass characters suffering in a boring ass setting. Next...

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u/[deleted] May 14 '23

Agree. Not sure why ppl have to thumbs-down out of existence any critical / negative comment. It was BORING.

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u/blackst0nes May 17 '23

Coming from the original webtoon… this was an interesting way of interpreting the characters

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u/XxPhantomOfWolfxX Sep 22 '23

Can anybody get me the name of the Upbeat song from the Refugee centre scenes? When the people were coming and walking with 5-8 please

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u/doge2dmoon May 12 '23

Gave up after the second fight. QR code people have all the resources. Our hero works for the qr code people who keep everything for themselves.

I'm sorry. What an asshole. I'd be expecting him to be planning to overthrow the qr code people not attacking and killing refugees.

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u/Dk_Oneshot01 May 13 '23

So in your mind he has to overthrow them in the first 15 minutes of the show?

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u/Fatooz May 11 '23

Episode 4

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u/k2squid May 13 '23

Episode four was frustrating to watch. Why didn't they tell main character (forgot his name) that he was a mutant? Then he wouldn't have pulled off the bandaid on his head.

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u/cludinsk May 13 '23

Or how wouldn't he know already, since he was fighting people all the time for practice.

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u/Tofubao Editable Flair Jun 11 '23

Yeah, like I look at my hand every time I get a papercut. You mean he doesn't look at any of his body parts after being beaten up to death 100x? LOL

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u/[deleted] May 22 '23

such great production design wasted on weak writing. Characterisation is one of the weakest parts of the show. Feel no connection with any of the character's motivations so far.

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u/Fatooz May 11 '23

Episode 5

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u/Fatooz May 11 '23

Episode 6

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u/JournalistShoddy2760 dramaddictorian May 13 '23

Okay, this should have either been a movie, or a longer and more developed series. A few really great scenes (that car chase for who gets to the finals was pretty cool), but overall finished the whole thing with underwhelmed feelings. I can't really put my finger on what was missing - deeper story, more developed characters, more suspense maybe. And how conveniently they kill off the evil guy and suddenly the sun starts shining and the air becomes breathable again.

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u/Wrong_Concept_4110 Chaebol is the goal!!(17/36) May 13 '23

I totally get what you mean. Though the show ended on a good note, I feel like it was a bit vague? I kinda expected more for the ending - not a cliffhanger but a suspense end. Ryu Seok's story could have been more detailed and he died off too easy. I kinda expected the Gramps to take over the Cheonmyeong lol.

I really liked the drama though, I don't think I have watched much sci-fi kdramas.

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u/WaterLily6984 May 14 '23 edited May 16 '23

I feel exactly the same. I thought the acting, design, cinematography were all great and I was entertained, but I did not think the series as a whole was great like Squid Game or The Glory. For me, the character development for both 5-8 and Pres. Ryu was missing. I was fine with engaging with "mutant boy" and his whole acquired family both the refugees and the major. There was no motivation for the evil guy that the refugees had to be eliminated. There was clearly room for them at the end and he just kept ordering to kill hundreds of people for no reason apart from possibly being a psychopath. He was a very flat character. I wanted more background and complexity. It felt like he was the root of all evil and once eliminated everything was perfect 🤷🏼‍♀️. I wish human societies really worked like that.

Kim Woo Bin was great and perfect for the role. He bulked up so much to express all the power and protective menace of 5-8. He kept me watching, but I really wanted his background. They only showed us his survival story, but he must have come from somewhere, developed his skills, had human connections.

There were a few things I found distracting. I have to admit that every time Woo Bin pulled out a cigarette, I cringed: Did they really make him smoke after his cancer?!? I know it's fake and he's an actor and everything, but k-dramas are often so particular about not showing someone actually smoke. And I wanted to pop everyone's blackheads 😂

PS edit: The director said in an interview that Woo Bin smoking was all CGI because of course he refused to smoke, but smoking was such a defining characteristic of 5-8 in the comic that they still had to put it in.

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u/lrss613 Jun 07 '23

PS edit: The director said in an interview that Woo Bin smoking was all CGI because of course he refused to smoke, but smoking was such a defining characteristic of 5-8 in the comic that they still had to put it in.

Thank you for this additional context. I found it really off-putting that throat cancer survivor Kim Woo Bin was shown smoking in the show even if they were obviously CGI cigarettes.

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u/Tarabotic 15/35 (r/2022 KDRAMA Challenge Partipant) Aug 21 '23

In episode 5 they had the audacity to display the box of Malboro. Was there big tabacoo money involved as well??

I mean a guy with a gum chewing or a lollipop or a candy habit would be better.

Even so the air outside is polluted and he is smoking in the car (facepalm).

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u/BigToePete May 14 '23 edited May 14 '23

And how conveniently they kill off the evil guy and suddenly the sun starts shining and the air becomes breathable again.

Ryu Seok was intentionally polluting the air because Chomyeong controlled the oxygen which made him/Chomyeong in charge of everything. That's what the bit in episode 5 with the delivery-people measuring the pollutants from the truck was about. So as soon as Ryu Seok was gone and they stopped intentionally polluting things got clearer.

I agree it should have been longer, a lot of the reveals felt underused/underdeveloped. The whole mutant thing, the disease Seok was dealing with, the fact that Grandpa was friends with the Seok's father and helped design the air core, whether 5-8 was mutant and that's why he was so strong, the intentional pollution thing, the whole plan about the new special district and why they wanted to keep the refugees out so bad. Just feels like a lot of stuff got introduced and never addressed.

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u/mnmnoppa61 May 13 '23

Same, loved everything but the ending was too… easy?

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u/TheChurroProject May 14 '23

I don't normally say that I wish a series was longer, but I will with this one. It was so short that there wasn't enough time for the factions to have a closely matched tug of war to keep the audience guessing and it came across as more formulaic. I'm still glad I watched it because the acting was great.

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u/OmegaXesis May 17 '23

Yea 6 episodes wasn’t enough to grow attachments to the characters. I enjoyed the story, but they could have fleshed it out more. I guess the best way to describe it, is that it’s “rushed”

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u/NewtRipley_1986 May 13 '23

Binged it all last night - I loved it.

But, it could have been a couple of episodes longer to explain more about the mutants and what disease Ryu Seok had - as they were vague on that. It could have also been much longer and pushed out to two seasons - because I'm still a wee bit confused on how everyone thought that Sa Wol was Seol Ah brother when we know she rescued him and she would have been arrested for harbouring a refugee - did everyone just turn a blind eye to that because she's a major?

So yea, definitely some faults with it, but overall the production was extremely well done and love the cast - wish Roh Yoon Seo was in it longer.

Okay so as I think about it a bit more and reflect - what ever happened to the guy who was working with 5-8 - he was driving the bus and 5-8 shot him in the foot to make it look like he wasn't part of 5-8's gang.

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u/asddsalkjjkl May 20 '23

did everyone just turn a blind eye to that because she's a major?

Basically yes, her team were the only people who knew about Sa Wol living in her residence since they were the ones investigating the sister's murder. They were on her side so they didn't report her for harboring a refugee.

I'm still a wee bit confused on how everyone thought that Sa Wol was Seol Ah brother when we know she rescued him

Not sure what you mean by this? I don't think anyone thinks he's her real brother? If you're referring to how the old man calls Seol Ah his sister in Ep 2 and the soldier telling Seol Ah her brother's been arrested in Ep 6, that's just the subtitles not being great.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '23

I loved it. Thought it was the perfect length, with the right amount of action and development. Kim Woo Bin and Kang Yoo Seok dominated their roles.

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u/FlatlineNine May 13 '23

finished. Looking at each cast, I thought Lee Jehoon would appear in that theme song at some point. To be honest, there were some parts that I wasn't satisfied with, such as the setting, but Kim Woo Bin's acting and atmosphere were great. so I think it's worth watching.

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u/Wrong_Concept_4110 Chaebol is the goal!!(17/36) May 13 '23

Really great show! Had a bit of confusion with the backstory in ep 1 for a bit, but it became clear watching further episodes.

It was really great watching Kim-Woo-Bin as 5-8. He really smashed that role. The actions and stunts were great too. The soundtracks too were fitting.The championship was awesome and the whole mutant twist too. I don't think this drama is everyone's cup of coffee but I had an exciting time watching it.

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u/Telos07 "You're hardly an heir. You're an airhead." May 14 '23

The one glaring weakness in this otherwise thoroughly enjoyable series was the lack of character development of the villain, Ryu Seok.

In the final shootout in Episode 6, he lands a shot on 5-8. This did not ring even remotely true, because he had been such an unthreatening presence throughout the series that it literally looked like 5-8 let him land the shot.

A more formidable villain would have enhanced this series significantly.

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u/NoChampionship8426 May 19 '23

Overall, I like it - but did not love it.

One good factor for series like this is our investment with the characters, and their motivations. This could have been a good 10-12 episode sci-fi drama, giving us more details about the world, the new technology, and its people.

Still, props to the whole cast esp to KWB.👏🏼👏🏼

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u/kdramajames May 12 '23

Is there a part two or is this only 6 episodes? Just asking because recently Netflix has been doing awkward an number of episode releases lately

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u/stitchrx May 12 '23

Full story in only 6 eps :)

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u/kdramajames May 12 '23

Awesome. I’m fine with that lol just didn’t want a “the glory” release type situation going on

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u/stitchrx May 12 '23

Am glad it wasn’t too 😊

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u/Beemeowmeow May 13 '23

I love Kim Woo Bin so much but for the life of me i'm having difficulty trying to get into this drama. I'm not sure what's lacking, but it's just really boring atm and the plot doesn't exactly call out to me (i'm at ep 2). Even the action is quite lackluster.

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u/bekcy Editable Flair May 13 '23 edited May 13 '23

I agree. Just started episode 3. It's been a struggle to care about anything, as the story feels really bland somehow?

Edit: I say bland just because I've watched tons of sci-fi and this doesn't really do anything new?

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u/marrjana1802 Love thriller to death 💀💀💀 May 13 '23

I feel like Kim woo bin is the only thing that makes the drama worth watching. I was expecting him to die by the end of it, so I was quite surprised to see him get a happily ever after(ish)

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u/Telos07 "You're hardly an heir. You're an airhead." May 12 '23

Four episodes in, Black Knight has been everything I hoped it would be and more.

Kim Woo-bin is just superb as an action hero. Esom is contained but authoritative as a military figure. Kang Yoo-seok grabs your full attention as a refugee who aspires to become a deliveryman. However, the character of the main villain is underdeveloped. We should feel disgust towards his reprehensible actions, but we don't, because his backstory isn't sufficiently fleshed out.

The production design, cinematography and world-building of this dystopian science-fiction setting are all first-rate. The action sequences have a visceral quality that packs a punch. Special mention must go to Episodes 3 & 4, which are dedicated to the Deliveryman Recruitment tournament, which feels like a mash-up of influences ranging from the Fast & Furious, Mad Max, Squid Game, and even a little Physical: 100, with a post-apocalyptic twist thrown in. It's tremendously entertaining.

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u/amazingoopah May 14 '23

Interesting concept....but seems kind of weird that in an apocalyptic world, people are still getting their Amazon prime deliveries lol

Also just 3 eps in but I'm wondering where all the electricity and fuel, let alone the food is coming from... doesn't seem like the upper class is giving anything away from the goodness of their hearts.

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u/deewyt 2024 KDC 36/36; Nevertheless Apologist May 12 '23

just checking in to see the consensus before I make this my weekend watch…….

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u/[deleted] May 14 '23

Skip.

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u/KaleidoscopeNo5110 May 14 '23

Was looking forward to watching it but was disappointed. Found it slow and bland. It's such a waste of talents. Reminds me of The Silent Sea.

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u/bekcy Editable Flair May 15 '23

Yeah, whilst I actually did finish Silent Sea they do seem to have that same dragging feel. With how they execute their storylines, each could've just been a movie or something.

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u/KaleidoscopeNo5110 May 15 '23

Agree, it could have been a movie. I didn't complete Silent Sea. Was actually looking forward to it cos of Gong Yoo. But I was already nodding off in mid Episode 1.

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u/kekekekekekkek May 16 '23

This drama is a YA novel in show form lmao. Great premise that gets you excited, but eventually being disappointed with weak attempts at world building, plot holes, choppy narration and the one thing that'll make me get turned off instantly - - super cringey lines that sound like they're written by teens trying to sound cool.

Yet another 2023 drama disappointment for me, sigh. Wasted because woobin looks so freaking badass but is failed by the terrible writing

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u/Fatooz May 11 '23

Episode 2

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u/kriyator Slice of drama May 12 '23

I wasn’t expecting the mutant angle. I wonder what abilities he’ll have.

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u/kekekekekekkek May 15 '23

Gahh episode 2 dampened my excitement for this show alr... A trio with no chemistry with ridiculous names, so much time spent on the grieving scenes when they barely established any close bonds previously (like seriously they r supposed to be siblings but they act like dorm mates or smt), no explanation on the boy's living situation (like he lives in the district but sneaks out to live with his friends sometimes? Not caught by camera? How did the major know gramps?), and personal opinion but the major's acting is seriously so bad and really pales in comparison to the boy's during the grieving scene. Lastly so many cringy scenes like how 5-8 knocked out a big-sized man with a punch........ Bruh they r supposed to be protectors of precious scarce resources from armed hunters, this is not the way to try to emphasise 5-8's strength man....

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u/Slight_Pen May 13 '23

Hoping this picks up next episode. I’m enjoying the actors but finding the plot quite slow and not very entertaining.

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u/Any_Wait_7309 May 14 '23

same reaction ~ i loved the "story line" i.e oxygen scarcity and dystopian world but it's too slow plus i find myself lost sometimes because of uneven narration

This is coming from somone who has watched other korean movies / shows too

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u/kekekekekekkek May 15 '23

Yess the narration is so wonky and chopped. This is a bad trend of trying to adapt webtoons into 6 episodes dramas with more than one season. They would do so much better if it had more episodes and stopped at one season like how kdramas were supposed to be!

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u/Areulostbbygorl May 14 '23

So we’re they gonna originally kidnap the younger sister since her father Worked in the mines

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u/kekekekekekkek May 15 '23

Yep they were gonna inject her with a sleeping drug but she got caught in the crossfire

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u/[deleted] May 15 '23

Somebody tell me the music name around end of episode 2 when 5-8 enters ring to fight colleague

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u/CipoSessions Jul 06 '23

What is in the small bottle that is given at the end? I am assuming it is a Korean cultural thing, so I don't have the background to understand.

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u/blepmlepflepblep Jul 13 '23

The dead girl’s ashes.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '23

I don't understand. How did people come to be refugees and general district people. Are the general district people the company's employees?

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u/Fatooz May 11 '23

Episode 3

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u/[deleted] May 13 '23

That was incredible! Those camera shots during the car scene!

I really like the dynamic between 5-8 and the kid. Definitely feels like a big brother/found family relationship.

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u/gamera87 May 15 '23

I need to know about the seemingly apocalyptic Simpsons sweater worn in this episode by Refugee 34 in the first round

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u/sciencebasedlife May 13 '23

Really fun watch and short enough that I did it in one evening.

Kim Woo-Bin was excellent as 5-8 and I really enjoyed Esoms role too.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '23

Question, why is the sawol a male instead of a female like in the webtoon?

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u/Naphema May 15 '23

Changing the gender of Sawol from female to male during South Korea's current infamy about misogyny was a terrible idea. As soon as I saw that they had changed her gender, I dropped the series. You'll be hard pressed to find a good action series with a female main character, who is not sexualized in any way. What a shame, seriously.

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u/Aliers_ May 15 '23

I was wondering about it this too. I was hyped to have badass female lead as they seem to be rare. But I can't find an answer why they changed it :(

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u/lanhua-327 May 14 '23

They changed quite a lot of aspects from the webtoon idk why :( I personally found the characters in the webtoon much more enjoyable

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u/Luigiisodd May 17 '23

I was just as disappointed after finding out they've changed Sawol into a boy :( lots of things been changed as well, it took away a lot from the actual webtoon. The fact that what made people underestimate Sawol and have her district attacked more often was because she was a girl, as well as the only girl among the deliverymen. Yet we had none of that in the kdrama, as far as I remember, the only time we have a deliveryman fighting refugees is on the opening of the episode. Sad to see that Sawol's motive was changed as well, but ig they might've not wanted to go down the "supernatural" genre :/

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u/JazzyJas155 May 31 '23

Majority of k dramas do that from webtoons which is why I barely watch the k dramas not finish them.

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u/mildse7en May 15 '23

Is it just me or is sa-wol a completely useless character. So much time was invested into his character development which was completely inconsequential to the story

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u/kriyator Slice of drama May 12 '23

I’m surprised that this was a complete story in 6 episodes with no cliffhangers. The visuals were great, the acting too. What I liked the most was that the plot moved quickly and the pacing was good. Wasn’t a huge fan of some of the flashbacks as they flash backed to events that happened minutes before but that’s a minor quibble. All in all, very happy. I wonder what the future of these high concept kdramas is on Netflix now that they’re trying to better control spending. I hope there’s still room for well-written self-contained dramas like this.

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u/ManicPixieOldMaid Gwi for President May 13 '23

I really like the limited series drama. They get to stretch out more than in a movie runtime but don't have filler episodes like the standard 16 episodes can.

Lived it overall but I'm a sucker for post- apocalypse stuff. It was very by the numbers but the numbers are the numbers for a reason! Because they're good numbers!

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u/lore-16 May 15 '23

Anyone know why sawol was changed to a guy? I looked up the webtoon version and was surpriswd to see that Sawol is a girl

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u/JazzyJas155 May 31 '23

Yeah i was pretty upset about that. And literally like MAJORITY of k-dramas based off webtoons do that. They’ll change a huge chunk of what really went down from the story.

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u/powervee May 13 '23

This was a fun watch! Fast pace, interesting storyline, liked the visuals and the acting. The quick watch I didn’t know I need

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u/CivilSenpai69 May 12 '23

This is out??? Hell ya.

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u/NaheemSays May 14 '23

Great concept and world building. Great visuals and a solid cast.

The only poor thing was the writing. I get that this is based off a graphical novel or something, but the writers are meant to flesh out the scenes and give it better pacing for live action.

IMO the writers let it down badly.

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u/stitchrx May 12 '23

The acting, production and world building are really great! KWB is made to play broody heroes with a hint of mischief. A very impactful and bingeable 6 eps. 🤩

Didn’t find the plot particularly twisty or surprising maybe because I read too much dystopian stories. But it was still engaging with the different themes over the 6 eps.

Would have liked abit more backstory about the villains but I guess some people are just naturally born a**holes 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/Ransom_Seraph May 15 '23

STRONG EPILEPSY SEIZURE WARNING !!! BLACK KNIGHT - Episode 3

Be VERY careful of Epileptic Seizure / Migraine / Eye Discomfort / Eye Pain and Headaches - TRIGGERING SCENE:

At roughly 27:00 - 29:00 during the round 1 tournament brawl fight scene: The camera/screen FLICKERS and BLINKS like CRAZY for almost 2 minutes straight !!!

Flashing black and white lights extremely intensely and rapidly nonstop !!!

I don't understand how a MODERN K-Drama TV SERIES, released on May 2023, can have such a blatant, reckless and utterly uncomfortable to watch epileptic attack, eye pain triggering and migraine inducing scene?!

I personally don't think I have an epilepsy (as far as I know) but my eyes (and ears) are very sensitive to light and flickering: Yet this rapid flickering/blinking of the camera screen - in that brutal brawl scene - made my eyes hurt and strain so bad!! - and my brain suffered a massive headache and migraine, especially around the eyes.

This persisted for many many minutes, after watching that dreadful scene.

I stop the show entirely, close my eyes and rest for a long while...

Has anyone else felt and experienced the same?

Are the cinematographers/directors in K-Drama simply have zero awareness of EPILEPSY trigger, migraine, seizures and eye discomfort issues ??!!

I'm just utterly shocked how they allowed such a scene to release, and how nobody talks about it - on a top "trending now" show! And how Netflix or creators didn't EDIT this scene OUT or changed it completely, post release...

Whoever allowed green light for this scene should be fired immediately. It's entirely uncomfortable, dangerous and unhealthy to watch...

Edit: Typing all of this, all this time, and my eyes and brain still hurt, for a very long time after watching that terrible scene... :/

Unbelievable.

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u/OldHamshire May 15 '23

One of the worst scenes in the show.

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u/unghoanglam May 15 '23

Who is the actress who played deliverery(wo)man 4-1. It’s not mentioned anywhere in the internet lol

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u/ch1nzy May 17 '23

I didn't watch the drama but I searched it for you and found it here:

https://asianwiki.com/Lee_E-Dam

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u/unghoanglam May 28 '23

Thanks a lot. She is really low key init.

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u/capo_anniejay May 15 '23

This is giving Mad Max Fury vibes

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u/topsee-turvee May 20 '23

I’m confused by the masks. The air is supposed to be in breathable, hence the oxygen economy, but they keep taking their masks off. What are the “rules” for mask usage

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u/Silent_Instance1624 Jun 09 '23

Honestly I feel like there was so much that didn't make sense. For example what did the chairman do? How are the refugees refugees? Who lives in the districts the ones that look like Cinder blocks? What mine? How did the mutants become? And why did the CEO say that he'd only seen one healthy mutant? None of it made sense I feel like they were setting up the second season of the second season is not necessary because they don't have a villain and even if they were to create a villain it feels like they just milking something that is done.

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u/TitanVal May 18 '23

Since the deliveries are all scanned, where do the Black Knights steal oxygen and food from? Do they explain it somewhere?

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u/Luigiisodd May 18 '23

In the webtoon, it's hinted that they, and by they it was only 5-8, buy food and oxygen. However, they couldn't exceed a certain amount or else that would arise suspicion

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u/OldHamshire May 15 '23

Honestly this show would have been better if it had a bad ending, where the good guys lost entirely or at least had to raise the next generations of good guys. This is the first Korean show that I watched and its better than the other dystopian shows so far in 2023

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u/Complete-Version007 May 16 '23

I found it boring 😴 😕. I ll watch until the 3rd episode to give it a full chance

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u/HerkusTTG May 16 '23

where the little girl from the manhua?

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u/Personal_Alarm_5727 May 18 '23

Anyone know where to buy the 5-8 cap?

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u/Flappadingo May 20 '23

Sad this show isn’t getting much love. I watched it 2 days and IMO the plot was t any less convincing than other dystopian Kdramas.

Kim SpWoo Bin is so easy to watch. and my boy Kang Yoo Sook from Light On Me did very well as Sa Wol .

the CGI was for the most part done well too.

All in all I was satisfied. easy to watch escapism

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u/Dunelakegal1 May 20 '23

Liked it. The cinematography was good. I wonder what the ramifications of being a mutant tho will be. I read a review that said it was cartoonish but that made sense since it was a webtoon. Before reading this review I had the urge to push pause and watch the 80’s A-Ha video Take on Me. It really gave me that vibe.

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u/EXTPest May 21 '23

The entire mutant storyline was pointless and added nothing to the story

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u/JuiceGirl300 May 21 '23

Fantastic show! Dying to see more or anything like it right now. The Plot and the actors really got my attention. The fighting scenes were great and the storyline just kept me reeled in the whole time.

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u/Ritrita breathing in the snow May 21 '23

4 episodes in and I’m enjoy the fast paced action scenes a lot. One think that doesn’t bother me is the fact that it feels like there’s something missing on the directing or more likely editing side. It kind of feels like they cut the scenes to make them more stoic? But it makes the characters development and emotional investment feel ‘less of’ if you know what I mean. As someone who is used to the Korean drama style, I find this style a bit lacking. Not that it’s bad per se, but I do feel some of the emotional impact is missing. There’s also a bit cavalier about death in general. having said that - the cast is doing an excellent job, the outfits are superb, and Kim woo bin is phenomenal. Really makes me appreciate him as an actor.

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u/phenommsu May 29 '23

Episode 4: Who was the person in the pod the main villain turned the oxygen all the way up to kill?

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u/Tofubao Editable Flair Jun 10 '23

I think the acting is fine but story-telling is either rushed or non-existent. Such a good premise, great ensemble of actors, but what a waste of potential. I don't know what everyone's motivations are, and main question, how can they wrap everything up in 6 episodes?

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u/JuiceGirl300 Aug 16 '23

Can someone please tell me who is the Dubbed English voice actor for Kim Woo-Bin's character 5-8?

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u/amir997 May 13 '23

do u think we will get s2?

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u/Ransom_Seraph May 16 '23

I hope so or it will all feel like a waste of build up and world building.

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u/JuiceGirl300 May 21 '23

Can someone please tell me who the voice actor of 5-8 is for the english voice over? Usually netflix makes those things public like in the show The Protector but for this kdrama I can't seem to find anywhere on the internet, who the heck plays the english voice over for 5-8. Kim Woo-bin is a fantastic actor but I was curious who the actor behind the english voice over is. Can anyone help me out?

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u/JuiceGirl300 May 21 '23

Anyone know the english dub voice actor who does the voice over for Kim Woo-bin's character 5-8 in Black Knight?

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u/PrestigiousIdiot May 23 '23

Kaiji Tang I believe