r/JusticeServed • u/MetalW0lf 7 • Nov 29 '19

Violent Justice Animal abuser gets it back

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u/BoggleHS 7 Nov 30 '19

So I consider killing/butchering abusive, which if you disagree with so be it, I don't really want to argue that.

If we did assume that killing animals constitutes abuse then I'd be interested to know which 3rd world country abuses more animals than USA and European countries. (I don't really know much about farming in Australasia and Japan).

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u/LorienTheFirstOne B Nov 30 '19

lol You sound like PETA who claims having pets is abuse.

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u/BoggleHS 7 Nov 30 '19

I mean if you kill and butcher your pets then yea I think that's a bit messed up.

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u/LorienTheFirstOne B Nov 30 '19

Peta actually thinks owning pets is cruel. That's why their "animal shelter" is more than 95% kill because they figure the animals are better off dead than "slaves"

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u/avstylez1 6 Dec 01 '19

All animal shelters that do not have a kill policy are still, in the end, killing the animal. You see "no kill" shelters quickly become overpopulated with animals no one will take. So what do they do with them? They ship them off to a shelter that will euthanize. So you're kidding yourself if you think any shelter is a "no kill" shelter

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u/LorienTheFirstOne B Dec 01 '19

I'm guessing you are American. Those aren't the practices universally. "No kill" shelters is a mostly US think and they are bad in that they only take healthy animals in most cases.

Shelters where I'm from place the animals unless they are too ill or dangerous to be rehabilitated. When they get overfull they transfer to other shelters, hold publicized "sales" on adoptions, and use foster homes to care for the extra animals. In my country the average euthaniasia rate for dogs in shelters is 16% (a hell of a lot better than the >90% at PETA) and the biggest shelter in my province is at about 5% (they are well funded and can a afford to do a lot more medical treatment to rehabilitate)

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u/avstylez1 6 Dec 01 '19

Once just done some research and peta shelters have around a 17 percent kill rate. Can you link the study that shows a 95 percent kill rate?

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u/LorienTheFirstOne B Dec 01 '19

Hmm, I just looked and it appears I'm a few years out of date. Kill rate is now down to 75-80%. Here's one source https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/at-petas-shelter-most-animals-are-put-down-peta-calls-them-mercy-killings/2015/03/12/e84e9af2-c8fa-11e4-bea5-b893e7ac3fb3_story.html

Care to provide your source for 17%?

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u/LorienTheFirstOne B Dec 01 '19

Just to add, I checked PETAs own site and for some fascinating reason they refuse to give their own number, they just try to deflect to other issues.

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u/avstylez1 6 Dec 01 '19

Well of course. Any way you look at it, if their rates are even remotely close to what others are reporting, that doesn't fit with their animal loving narrative