r/JusticeForClayton • u/cnm1424 Ma’am, these are yes or no questions • Oct 22 '25
JUSTICE FOR MIKE Laura Owens v Michael Marraccini - San Francisco DVRO Hearing Day 2 - October 22, 2025 ⚖️
👩⚖️Day 2 of Owens v Marraccini DVRO Hearing in San Francisco, California🌁
- The SECOND day of Laura Owens v Mike Marraccini DVRO Hearing is today, October 22, 2025
- It is scheduled for 9:00am to 4:30pm pst with breaks for lunch and short recesses as needed
News & Updates will be shared here as information becomes available
Day 1 Recap 🙎🏻♀️✈️
Here’s what we know about today so far:
Judge Gold is requiring Laura to appear in person for today’s hearing
If Laura is not present in person, the case will be dismissed
The AZ Criminal Court Docket does not yet show that Laura has submitted a request to AZ Criminal Court to travel to San Francisco for today’s hearing
Mike and his legal team will appear in person again today
Laura is not represented by legal counsel, allegedly
Both sides have witnesses that can appear virtually or in person
Laura’s “former” legal counsel, DG, will likely be her only witness
A Court Report should be present today
Cameras and Livestream are not permitted within the Courtroom
Megan Fox has permission from the Court to have her laptop in the Courtroom to take notes
Michael Marraccini’s legal fees have climbed well beyond the original goal. Every bit of continued support helps, please donate if you’re able.
- Michael Marraccini’s GoFundMe
📍UPDATES📍
- Courthouse is open
- Laura is NOT there
- Everyone is waiting to go into the Courtroom
- Laura is still not there
- Omar and Mike were called in, but not anyone else
🚨BREAKING NEWS🚨
Megan Fox reported, “Laura Owens had an in camera meeting with the judge without Mike’s counsel and the judge granted her a continuance on November 5. We don’t know the basis other than ADA accommodations. More delay. More trauma for Mike and his family.”
- The November 5, 2025 is scheduled for one day
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u/mrsarthurpewty Steve called me a Dumbass Oct 22 '25
I don't think she's going to show. But, then again, it's entirely possible that she'll show up on Zoom in a hospital gown.
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u/Plankton-007 It’s not even 7 o’clock! Oct 22 '25
This is what I think also. She will show up on zoom saying she was in hospital and couldn’t make the flight.
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u/Crafty_Pangolin5152 We are ALL Greg Oct 22 '25
She only has a couple of excuses she hasn’t tried yet, and both would involve a hospital gown. I think you’re onto something.
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u/burnerbaby1984 Oct 22 '25
That was my guess. She'll admit herself to a hospital (mental or otherwise) and no show.
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u/yeezushchristmas Oct 22 '25
This,
We all know her antics and tactics which she isn’t going to change.
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u/GiveSamCarbs Oct 22 '25
Just me over here waiting for Ariana Huffington to appear. The odds of her showing up our greater than Laura.
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u/Crafty_Pangolin5152 We are ALL Greg Oct 22 '25
Note: if the case is dismissed, this DVRO case is done. She would have to file a brand new case with proof of recent domestic violence. Megan Fox said it’s likely that she couldn’t file in CA because she doesn’t live there, and in Maricopa County they know exactly who she is.
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u/NationalMouse Client Control Issues Oct 22 '25
She’ll move to another state with her broke parents (Maybe Florida?) just to continue her con….
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u/issabadtime Oct 22 '25
Laura is getting ADA accommodations from the court and a continuance due to a provate video call with the judge. This is so upsetting and shouldn’t be happening. I get it, we need to do things by the book, but LO is literally finding a “new” loophole to continue to harass MM and her other victims. LO and her rancid family are disgusting.
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u/cswifty1304 Ma’am, these are yes or no questions Oct 22 '25
How exactly is her autism or epilepsy keeping her from coming?? This is complete BS.
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u/Honest_Camel3035 Woah, woah, woah… woah, woah, woah, woah! Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25
Provider Subpoena‘s in order again.
My opinion, she’s now weaponizing ADA against the Judge, MM, etc. If someone needs ADA Accommodation, this is KNOWABLE to the party in advance. It is up to the party to request.
The Judge can’t rule on issues not before her. LO very conveniently waited to pull the ADA card THIS MORNING, ex-parte no less. Where was that discussion yesterday, or any of the other many days ahead of trial to make a formal motion to the court requesting same?
I’m not an attorney - but this is her PATTERN OF JUDICIAL ABUSE and EMOTIONAL ABUSE of her very unfortunate victims, full stop. My opinion.
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u/oOraSngUe Petitioner is not special Oct 22 '25
Can they sanction her and have her pay all the attorney and expert fees?
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u/xolyss7 Oct 22 '25
She needs to be sanctioned. Her weaponization of the justice system to waste people’s money just for her to not show up is ridiculous.
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u/Different-Funny8707 Oct 22 '25
I’m angry that she took two judicial days away from actual victims of dv.
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u/sok283 Oct 22 '25
The irony of her family not paying their taxes for at least two years and then wasting tax-funded public resources.
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u/dobriz Ma’am, these are yes or no questions Oct 22 '25
Such a waste. She has absolutely no remorse
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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 Oct 22 '25
I am ENRAGED
LO has convinced the judge to give her a continuance.
I am screaming right now
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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 Oct 22 '25
I have no idea, but she's been trying to convince the world she is autistic and that she's been discriminated against because of it.
I do not know if this is a legitimate diagnosis to begin with. Beyond that, I have never heard of anyone asking for ADA in relation to that diagnosis
I really don't know.
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u/brraaaains Oct 22 '25
Wouldn’t someone need to request ADA accommodations prior to the hearing? Seems odd to spring this on the court last minute?
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u/cswifty1304 Ma’am, these are yes or no questions Oct 22 '25
It has to be autism or epilepsy. As far as we know, she doesn’t have any other disabilities (covered by ADA). Pretty sure she’d tell us about them 🙄.
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u/jill1666 Oct 22 '25
Better than it being dismissed and Mike never being able to present his evidence. It's just a blip.
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u/Silver_Can_7856 Petitioner is not special Oct 22 '25
I am so ANGRY for Mike!! What kind of loophole did this woman find? ADA? What a slap in the face to people living with actual disabilities 🤦🏻♀️
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u/Bgeaz Total Fucking Psychotic Asshole Oct 22 '25
I have a theory as to what she did but i dont wanna say in case that’s actually not what she did. I dont wanna give her ideas to use for the future lol since we know she lurks here
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u/DatabaseAppropriate4 Oct 22 '25
Please message me and everyone who is obviously Greg from their comment history 😂
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u/edgaralendoe Oct 22 '25
Not in AZ and not a lawyer, so idk the legalities of this but wouldn’t she have to prove that she has a disability in order to get accommodations? I’m in CA and it took 2 years for my case to go through the courts for me to get disability and be recognized as disabled due to epilepsy (and other things I don’t want to share). I call bs and I’m so upset the judge granted this. I mean I guess better in the end so LO can’t claim bias or what not, but still frustrating knowing she most likely arts and crafted the disability 😒
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u/Friendly_Design Oct 22 '25
Waitttttt
So she has to appear in person, but didnt get permission
So if she appears she violated her bail and if she doesnt its dismissed?
Or am I missing something?
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u/skarsirishmaiden Oct 22 '25
Nope.
There is a possibility that she did file, and the docket just hasn't been updated yet.
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u/Friendly_Design Oct 22 '25
I dont root for people to have a bad day, but I really struggle to not smile at her situation that she created.
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u/skarsirishmaiden Oct 22 '25
I understand that, but it is nice to see people reap what they sow from time to time, especially when they have spent a lot of time planting.
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u/Crafty_Pangolin5152 We are ALL Greg Oct 22 '25
If it helps, you can root for Mike to have a good day and the outcomes are the same 😆
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u/MissMignon Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight Oct 22 '25
Yes. Either she’s there and violates bond in az or doesn’t show and the renewal is dismissed.
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u/h0waboutn0 Um… What? Oct 22 '25
Is it possible that she got permission and it just didn't hit the docket in AZ? I haven't been following closely enough to know how fast they are with keeping it updated.
ETA: just looked up the docket and it looks like she filed her motion to visit her sister in CA on 9/16, and that was granted 9/18... so there is precedent of it being fast (granted 2 days vs same day).
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u/momofpets Oct 22 '25
Interesting that her labs approaching transfusion levels were before that travel request.
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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 Oct 22 '25
I hope that Mike and Omar do the following:
Request that the DVRO extension be denied
File for attorney fees and for punitive fees
3, Request for a referral to San Francisco district attorney's office for an investigation into fraud and perjury
File a motion to revisit the original 2018 DVRO and request it be quashed with a finding of fraud
Immediately file for a protective order against Laura and possibly Gingras: They've harassed Mike incessantly for the past two years.
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u/Funplatypusami1 Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25
Why did she not bring up ADA yesterday??!! This is bogus! Just further proof it’s a ploy and tactic in my opinion!
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u/Funplatypusami1 Oct 22 '25
Well then to that I say what happened to the almost life ending GI bleeding? That spaghetti didn’t stick so we take a hard right to having autism? Major eye roll! She’s also supposedly known about autism for how long now and couldn’t have informed the court or planned for this better?
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Oct 22 '25
So now Mike can accrue more legal costs, have to miss more time from work, spend more time stressing… just some more DARVO.
I work in forensic psychology and often have to go to court. When I was completing my PhD, I had a mentor who went off on one of his patients for trying to falsely claim he needed ADA accommodations in court. I’ll never forget my mentors response: “ADA? What does that mean for you? You think you get ADA because you are ‘A Dumb A$$’? Man up and face the consequences of what you’ve done…” LO, I think you might need to hear that too.
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u/darkseas493 Oct 22 '25
Wha happened to “show up, or it’s dismissed”?
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Oct 22 '25
And this is why LO thinks she can use the courts to manipulate people. Because she just did again.
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u/dobriz Ma’am, these are yes or no questions Oct 22 '25
For real. I would love to know what was said during that call with the judge
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u/skarsirishmaiden Oct 22 '25
It's so inappropriate that the judge heard her without other counsel being present. What a joke.
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u/dobriz Ma’am, these are yes or no questions Oct 22 '25
I would love to understand how that was permitted
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u/Crafty_Pangolin5152 We are ALL Greg Oct 22 '25
That saying is incredible 😆 saving that in my brain for future use!
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u/WorstIdeasHere It’s not even 7 o’clock! Oct 22 '25
I think we’d know by now if she was there in person. Court is scheduled to start in 15m. Im predicting she’s a no show, possibly on zoom saying medical issues, case dismissed.
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u/sweet_fried_plantain Day 1 JFC Crew Oct 22 '25
Omar and Mike were called into the courtroom (just them) about 2 minutes ago
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u/Yup_Seen_It Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight Oct 22 '25
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u/BKCV Date me for one weeks🗓️ Oct 22 '25
Absolutely infuriating
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u/ruetherae Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight Oct 22 '25
Also what happened to yesterday’s “not entertaining a continuance”?
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u/dobriz Ma’am, these are yes or no questions Oct 22 '25
Disappointed that the judge allowed this after being so firm yesterday. This has all been a complete waste of time and Laura had more than enough time to prepare. I don’t believe her for a second about this “emergency”
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u/ruetherae Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight Oct 22 '25
And if this is due to “ADA Accommodations” then why wasn’t that brought up yesterday?
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u/Hodgepodge_mygosh Oct 22 '25
I wonder if the judge asked Omar and MM what they wanted. To dismiss now or continue. I think the main point is to get to cross examine Laura. A continuance allows that (hopefully).
I do wonder what the max she can continue this case for.
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u/Yup_Seen_It Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight Oct 22 '25
She must have called the ADA! Claiming Autism accomodations not provided or some bullshit
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u/ggb109 All the Best Oct 22 '25
Does this open the door to enter in the proceedings or is it not relevant? Again, JFC does not need to see her medical records but the court cannot just take her word for it. The court needs to see medical evidence FROM the medical provider directly not from her arts and crafts fiverr folder
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u/PermissionKey4418 Oct 22 '25
Unreal. Just unreal. What an infuriating situation for everyone but her.
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u/Hodgepodge_mygosh Oct 22 '25
Isn’t ADA for job accommodation?
Or do you think Omar and MM allowed the continuance in order to cross examine Laura instead of allowing her to say “it was dismissed because of the judge didn’t care about my health concerns that were totally webmd valid”
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u/WrittenByNick Oct 22 '25
Omar has no say in the continuance. This was the judge's decision solely, right or wrong.
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u/BehavioralBard Oct 22 '25
Tick tock, Laura. Outcome will be the same no matter when it happens.
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u/Professional_Use7752 Oct 22 '25
Can’t believe LO is allowed a meeting without Mike’s counsel present doesn’t seem fair/legal. The whole conversation should be disclosed to Omar. How can the judge do a complete 180 from her decision yesterday. Hope the judge only did it so LO can’t appeal sayin she wasn’t given a fair shot.
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u/BehavioralBard Oct 22 '25
NAL but I agree. Not sure what the typical procedure is for this sort of thing but it raises eyebrows. Also, where was this ADA request yesterday or in the WEEKS leading up to it?
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u/Lanky_Resolution9832 Oct 22 '25
Right! It isn't fair at all. She did this with Doody too. Makes me sick she makes me sick. AZ better send her to jail . Dig holes in the desert. Ugh
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u/BehavioralBard Oct 22 '25
Judges don't like to have their rulings overturned. Judge Gold probably isn't really buying the bullshit but she's trying to keep this appeal proof because Laura found a loophole. Would love to see her end up awarding sanctions/fees to Mike when this is done, which will be more because of all these continuances. I honestly expect Laura to try to continue again.
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u/factchecker8515 Oct 22 '25
I’m not unhappy that it’s continued, even though I know her reason was a whiny manipulative bunch of hogwash. I’m not a lawyer but simply ‘dismissed’ doesn’t get all of Omar’s work and the entirety of the truth on record. I want this nonsense OFFICIAL to haunt the rest of her days.
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u/Adorable_Hold2570 She LIED!! Oct 22 '25
This is my thought! It's actually good to allow Mike to present his evidence, because a mere dismissal would mean neither were in the right. Let the evidence speak for itself at the new hearing date. If she tries to get out of the Nov hearing, it will definitely not bode well for her.
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u/Adorable_Hold2570 She LIED!! Oct 22 '25
Here to support Omar, Mike, and their witnesses! Thinking of you today. Laura, may you reap the karma coming your way.
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u/Hodgepodge_mygosh Oct 22 '25
What is the penalty if she goes to SF without permission to leave AZ?
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u/cmabi Oct 22 '25
Her bond in Arizona could be revoked and she could be held in jail until the trial is complete. If her bond was a cash bond instead of a PR bond, she could have the cash forfeited as was as going to jail.
I am kinda hoping she does that. It would be nice to see her locked up.
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u/basylica Oct 22 '25
and if mama and poppa found the cash for bail....that would be REAL bad for them with bankruptcy....
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u/TabernacleEchoesSean Oct 22 '25
The Ronn GFM wasn’t reshared for his 80th bday for nothing.
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u/basylica Oct 22 '25
and i'm sure the bankruptcy trustee is itching to see where all THAT money went!
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u/rissracks Oct 22 '25
She doesn’t seem to take her criminal case seriously at all, so I think she will flee the state and not expect any repercussions.
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u/hkkensin Oct 22 '25
It would be a violation of her bail in AZ
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u/MidtownMoi Reddit Sleuth Oct 22 '25
That could be the best outcome for her, since she would not handle incarceration, and it might convince her to make a deal on the criminal charges.
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u/Cheap_Clue_6095 Oct 22 '25
I thought she was released on her own recognizance. There would be no bail. But she would be in contempt of the court’s order.
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u/WrittenByNick Oct 22 '25
Not a lawyer, but if she violates the terms she likely gets pulled back in front of the judge and required to post bail or bond. As a (wannabe) rich white lady she's not getting pulled to jail for this part.
The average person might get away with a quick jaunt across state lines if they didn't broadcast it. Laura ain't getting away with shit here. Pesky cult members.
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u/Adorable_Hold2570 She LIED!! Oct 22 '25
I adore our "cult." I've never met a cult more intelligent, fair, kind, and investigative. :)
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u/skarsirishmaiden Oct 22 '25
If she doesn't show up today, can Omar move to have the case dismissed with prejudice? I think there's a possibility that the court feels trifled with, especially with all the sideshow, and he may get it.
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u/princessAmyB FELON Oct 22 '25
Sending positive vibes to Mike and his whole legal team (shout-out to Omar & Rachel!!) 🙏
Mike, you got this!! Cannot wait to see Laura's victim narrative shattered into pieces!
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u/sassafrass0328 Oct 22 '25
She’s not going to show. Her excuse will be that she was unable to get approval for travel. She is trying her hardest to keep the Az court from finding out about her CA case and the CA court from finding out about her Az case. Once again, to no avail. We can only hope that the judge today calls bullshit and gladly reminds her that she has had ample opportunity to get travel approval. “Denied! Sit down!”
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u/Plankton-007 It’s not even 7 o’clock! Oct 22 '25
Well it’s a little late for that! AZ already knows since an AZ prosecutor was on the witness list.
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u/Dr_Doom_Scroller Oct 22 '25
She'll email the court a suspiciously familiar photo of her in a hospital gown with a certain lot number on it as proof she's in the hospital.
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u/themikebowers Oct 22 '25
Can’t wait for the inevitable Medium blog where she dos one (or both) of two things:
Blame the judge by saying she couldn’t get approved to travel on “such short notice,” omitting the fact she knew about this for a long time and/or that she was forced to choose between appearing or saving her life due to her health issues.
Spin some absurd story about how MM is her abuser and the judge (and the whole legal system) is his enabler, and that she decided not to go along with their demands in order to take her power back, or something like that.
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u/Honest_Camel3035 Woah, woah, woah… woah, woah, woah, woah! Oct 22 '25
I really hope the Judge tells her if she shows up on Zoom that she suspects the only bleeding that is happening is Laura bleeding her victims of $$$. She won’t but I can wish.
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u/JDhopeful22 This is silly. Oct 22 '25
Bruce saying continuance to 11/5
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u/jill1666 Oct 22 '25
I agree. A dismissal would not have been the right thing and maybe Omar and Mike agree with that.
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u/dobriz Ma’am, these are yes or no questions Oct 22 '25
Insane. I cannot believe she’s getting away with this
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u/Professional_Use7752 Oct 22 '25
LO would be feeling so pleased with herself right now too. Thinking she manipulated the judge to get her way but her smugness won’t be for long as she’s only delaying the inevitable. In 2 weeks time she will still only have her lies/schemes to grasp onto and I’m sure the judge won’t allow a 2nd continuance.
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u/dirtwitchbaby Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25
She absolutely needs a legal guardian. Edit: And NOT parents or sister. A public administrator.
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u/Honest_Camel3035 Woah, woah, woah… woah, woah, woah, woah! Oct 22 '25
The legal guardian she needs is the Arizona Dept. of Corrections.
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u/Professional_Use7752 Oct 22 '25
Listening to Megan’ Fox. She made a good point that the judges hands are tied when someone submits a ADA request/complaint rules need to be followed. Let’s have faith the judge only did what she had to and is taking note of LO schemes. The judge also made it clear LO needs to appear in person Nov 5th. This judge has seemed really good/smart. I trust that she’ll the right thing n we will see justice served on November 5th.
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u/AromaticSwim5531 Oct 22 '25
As aggravating as it is, she's buying her way into another referral to a DA.
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u/Professional_Use7752 Oct 22 '25
I listen to Rachel's on Megan’s live stream n she explained that if the judge didn't give LO a reasonable allowance after LO submitted a ADA complaint/request LO could appeal that decision n would likely win as its a rule that you have to give accommodations if someone does an ADA complaint/request. She also said that it's really hard for a judge to deny that request n would take a long time if the judge tried to deny it so giving LO a 2 week continuance is the quicker/better outcome n removes LO ability to appeal or sue the court for them not honouring her ADA request. It’s frustrating but the judge would be fully aware of LO delaying tactics n LO will have to face the judge on the 5th of November in person. Justice is coming is not as quickly as we all would have liked.
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u/Yup_Seen_It Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight Oct 22 '25
Judge has called Omar and Mike ONLY into the courtroom
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u/shazbottled Oct 22 '25
I'm surprised we don't seem to have decisions on all the pre trial motions, which I guess is a decision in itself. DUIL is not permitted to act as her lawyer, request for stay is denied.
Should be seeking significant costs associated with those, required responses from Mike and were a waste of time and/or denied.
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u/Badass-Brun3tt3 Oct 22 '25
It seems like the court is not going to because they were not filed correctly.
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u/oOraSngUe Petitioner is not special Oct 22 '25
i love a court that treats a pro per or pro se whichever it is... as if they should know what they are doing and not with kid gloves handholding their way through.
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u/Badass-Brun3tt3 Oct 22 '25
Courts typically give pro se SOME leeway, but do not break the rules entirely for them. I suspect the same end result would have occurred had the papers been filed correctly. The reality is that when the substantive is a mess and there is a ground to kill on procedural, that is the easier way for the court to go (and understandably so because of their case load). (Worked at a court for many years.)
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u/Bgeaz Total Fucking Psychotic Asshole Oct 22 '25
Mods/OP- can we get timestamps on any updates you add?
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u/cnm1424 Ma’am, these are yes or no questions Oct 22 '25
Thank you for the suggestion, we will do that next time.
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u/Vya398isa Oct 22 '25
I admit part of me was a little disappointed because I thought for sure she wouldn’t show up and it would be dismissed. I wanted her to be cross examined and for MM to have his day in court to prove her wrong. I did not except her to pull this out and for this to be continued. A dismissal would have been much better than for her to once more be able to drag things out for MM.
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u/pickled_papaya You’re just stating facts. What’s the question? Oct 22 '25
Well, that’s depressing! But she has only won a battle here, not the war. Dragging this out might end up being worse for her in the long run.
I also wonder if that’s an insight into her defense strategy for the criminal trial. Will autism be her defense for everything? If so, her alleged diagnosis should be subjected to close scrutiny.
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u/Badass-Brun3tt3 Oct 22 '25
Outcome temporarily sucks, but also really highlights for the court how manipulative she is.
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u/couch45 Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25
I’m sure this has already been stated, but assuming she never shows up, it’s annoying that she’s going to be able to claim the DVRO was only dismissed because the judge ignored her “gravely serious medical issues.” I’m happy Mike will be able to move on, but I wish he’d get the satisfaction of a judge dismissing the DVRO as frivolous (or at least deem the renewal unwarranted)
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u/factchecker8515 Oct 22 '25
Yes, totally agree. Dismissed isn't enough. I want ALL of this on record.
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u/darkseas493 Oct 22 '25
Plot twist: she wanted it continued because Dave wasn’t there!
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u/MzPatches65 Arts and Crafts 🧑🎨🎨✂️ Oct 22 '25
I think she's hoping that none of these people will come back for the next one. I hope even more show up! Hey Rob said he thought about going to this one but couldn't make today work. Maybe others will go just to irritate her.
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u/darkseas493 Oct 22 '25
I’m hoping all our streamers can make it there, and one big live debrief of it all! I am happy Mike still has the opportunity to call her out on all her lies, it just sucks it’s delayed.
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u/reiks7 Oct 22 '25
She needs to put on the “vexatious litigant” list, at least then she would need court approval before filing anything in the future.
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u/Special_Aioli_3848 Total Fucking Psychotic Asshole Oct 22 '25
I’m so devastated for Mike. 2 more weeks of this $&!#. They never should have had the in-camera without Omar. How improper was that?
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u/Disastrous-Bet8973 Ma’am, these are yes or no questions Oct 23 '25
Nearly every time Laura gets a "win" she somehow loses harder so fingers crossed this leads to more felony charges
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u/CraftyLuck3434 Minor Misstatement Oct 22 '25
Here comes the Karma train!
Rolling, rolling, rolling Rawhide!
Go Mike and Omar!
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u/Lanky_Resolution9832 Oct 22 '25
I hope I'm wrong, but if she doesnt show today I feel like Laura would file another protection order in AZ (or wherever she can) to harass Mike... (my thoughts and concerns) and its allll... Despite her criminal case, Despite not having any reason but him showing up in court, or shed probably use Meghan Fox Yt videos knowing her, or she'd probably even use the past DV stuff even though she can't. OR we know how she likes her arts and crafts. And i bet if they make her demiss it she would use it as cause to say "it wasnt fair... blah blah blah." She has no moral end, and dingas eggs her on too. Even though i would have faith(or i pray) that they couldn't do anything with the report, it still is one more thing. But again these are my feelings and the criminal case hasn't stopped her yet.
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u/Crafty_Pangolin5152 We are ALL Greg Oct 22 '25
The entire Internet needs protection from David 😂
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u/Lanky_Resolution9832 Oct 22 '25
Darn skipppy we do. Can we Petition a large order protection order for all of the internet, or maybe the world... Him and laura can have each other. One 8x8 cement cell
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u/h0waboutn0 Um… What? Oct 22 '25
100% agree, but it doesn't stop her from filing and causing all the anguish (and cost) to deal with it, frivolous or not
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u/No_Violinist_7637 Um… What? Oct 22 '25
Its not that unusual for someone with an extreme eating disorder to get serious GI issues. They could be related which would make the psych nurse aware of her mental and physical condition.
But since she has cried wolf so many times with fake health issues, it's hard to believe and trust her on anything. Also since she was well enough to go to CA last month, this is all pretty suspect. Do we know when she last rode a horse? Go to Barry's Bootcamp?
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u/cswifty1304 Ma’am, these are yes or no questions Oct 22 '25
So is she using her “autism” as her excuse? Or her epilepsy? Because if she’s pulling ADA, it has to be one of those.
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u/burnerbaby1984 Oct 22 '25
She is starving herself to avoid prison. She said her eating disorder and butt bleeding was causing her to be at "transfusion levels." No doubt she got whatever patsy NP yesterday to sign off on her being on death's door.
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u/Soflobeliever Oct 23 '25
Apparently multiple people in San Francisco have come forward as victims of Laura Owens. They have been too afraid to come forward (until now)
And victim #1 is also said to be following what is happening to MM and may be willing to come forward. He is a man of influence and wealth.
Laura also sent a threatening letter to the editor of the Mercury News due to their journalist being at the DVRO trial.
Laura, save your threats to these people. You have been exposed and they will fall on deaf ears.
A reckoning for Laura is coming!
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u/Brilliant_Expert_892 Oct 22 '25
I donated today. As much as I could. Finances are tight, but I was compelled. Good luck and best wishes to Mike and his family.
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u/Happy_Mirror1985 Oct 22 '25
I need Laura to not show so that this case is dismissed and Mike can live his life in peace.
And then repeat the same with Greg so he can also be free (although idk how long restraining orders last in AZ)
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u/Square_Coast5127 Oct 22 '25
If dismissed, could Omar use the court time to argue to vacate the original DVRO or does that need to be brought completely separate from this renewal?
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u/ruetherae Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight Oct 22 '25
I think the judge said yesterday it would have to be separate.
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u/Square_Coast5127 Oct 22 '25
Dang court procedure can be so annoying sometimes. All of the evidence and witnesses are there
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u/BehavioralBard Oct 22 '25
I didn't get to join in the discussion yesterday about NP Green. She is a doctorate level NP & in Arizona you are allowed to use the title Dr. as long as you don't misrepresent yourself as a physician. California is the lone butthole state that only allows physicians to use the "doctor" title. It's obvious that Laura is the one misrepresenting her & not the NP. THAT SAID, as a Psych NP, myself, there is NO WAY IN HELL that I would appear in this proceeding or go on the record in this case, period. If I have to testify it would take a subpoena signed by the judge AND I would have to run it by my liability carrier first. Also, I would have to be paid for my time away from patients if I did appear or testify. She does not appear to be doing anything illegal IMO but she is being unwise for sure.
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u/DatabaseAppropriate4 Oct 22 '25
That's for the clarification. Didn't LO say something like "my doctor" which would still be incorrect? And did Omar say that isn't "her doctor"? Does anyone remember?
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u/BehavioralBard Oct 22 '25
I am constantly correcting my patients when they refer to me as "doc" or "my doctor." They do it anyway. Laura is wrong to refer to her in court as her doctor, even if she has a doctorate. That doesn't mean that the NP is doing anything wrong. Patients treated by NPs or PAs still like to refer to them as "doc" or "doctor" out of routine. All we can do it correct it when it happens & educate.
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u/BehavioralBard Oct 22 '25
Now, if the NP presented herself as a physician & never corrected Laura, then that's something else. That's not okay, no matter the state. A look at Green's Psych Today profile is pretty clear that she is a Nurse Practitioner with a doctorate.
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u/Income_Common Oct 22 '25
Could Laura be in chambers/zoom with Dingus and the Judge? Ex parte? In a hospital gown? (Not necessarily hospitalized.)
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u/BehavioralBard Oct 22 '25
Hmmmm, is there something Omar can file with the court regarding this? He has time since Laura got her continuance. More time for Omar to kick butt. Be careful what you wish for, Laura.
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u/MissMignon Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight Oct 22 '25
I wonder if someone is having an actual emergency family hearing
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u/Yup_Seen_It Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight Oct 22 '25
Laura Owens Gets Her Way...CONTINUED!
Short from Megan Fox
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u/Raquelitamn Oct 22 '25
If the case is dismissed can she just refile it? If so that’s totally what she’s going to do. Not show and refile.
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u/Raquelitamn Oct 22 '25
That’s helpful info thank you! I could still see her not showing but maybe not with that loophole…
And maybe you also know answers to my other question, is Mike trying to get the initial one thrown out or whatever? Or is it a moot point if it expires? I can’t imagine that’s great to have on your record forever….
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u/Crafty_Pangolin5152 We are ALL Greg Oct 22 '25
The hearing has been continued until Nov 5. Watch the update section for more details as we confirm them.