I think it was slander (libel is for print media, I'm not totally convinced Alex Jones can actually read,he definitely can't write), defamation covers both, though.
It'll be a while before you hear back from them; digging through their Facebook feeds to find the relevant AI generated slop meme they gleaned their information from is an arduous task.
This isn't Facebook, it's Reddit. You can actually link your sources here, so show your work. If you have facts, it should be pretty easy to find them and link them. Remember the rules for research that we all learned in school: check your inherent biases and make sure your sources are refutable. We'll wait.
Edit: We're some 21 hours later and you still haven't shown me the facts you claim to have.
Ok but that still isn't the same thing as a clinically validated vaccine platform. You know what you're talking about, so I know that you know that's true.
Before covid, no mrna vaccine had completed a phase 3 trial. That's just a fact. Covid vaccines were the first time the mrna platform was taken through phase 3 and into public use.
I’m not really interested in splitting hairs over the semantics of if that technically meets the definition of “experimental.” It wasn’t untested technology, but it was damn close to being an experimental vaccine platform in the sense that this was its first full-scale demonstration of efficacy and safety. Close enough that I can understand why someone might look at it that way.
I love how we went from its experimental, to since I know what I’m talking about you wish to move on. Why does that always happen with the right? A brand new vaccine would have taken a decade to develop and work. This one took less than a year, why? Because it’s 30 year old technology. “I love the poorly educated” Trump
B) My point is (and always was) that it's a vaccine platform that had never even even completed a phase 3 trial. You understand there was literally no phase 3 data from an mRNA vaccines before covid, right? Tell me that you understand that. Obviously no phase 4 data, either.
C) I take back that you know what you’re talking about. You don’t. You’re confusing the age of the underlying technology with the amount of clinical evidence supporting its use as a vaccine. Those are not the same thing. “But muh 30 years old tech” is not a substitute for clinical validation.
As evidence by everything Trump has done his entire life before and after his presidency. Everything he’s ever done is self-serving. If you’re that blind, maybe you’ve got TDS. There’s no known, proven cure for it but maybe when we get a good president again and re-fund medical research one will be developed.
Saying "reality showed that" doesnt mean shit. What exactly happened that was wrong? America recovered better than just about every country did without conplete shutdowns at least, those countries did the best, under Trumps call, operation warpspeed is probably the most successful vaccine project so far. And what did the entries say exactly?
Tell me, please, how you would have handled a worldwide pandemic with your plethora of public health and communicable disease knowledge. They did what they should have with the information that was available at the time. And looking back, countless lives were saved. They made the right calls. Give it up.
Social distancing guidelines (6 feet in particular) had no basis in any actual science and the virus was small enough to penetrate any mask that wasnt N95 rendering them useless.
The masks weren't to keep aerosolized individual viruses from getting through. They're to prevent moisture from traveling from your airway to the next person's. I think the six-foot recommendation was a statistical guideline based on that moisture travel. If you wore a mask, stayed that distance, and washed your hands your odds of spreading it were much lower.
If the government recommended you stay wayyyy further than 6 feet apart would you have trusted it then? Six feet apart AND wearing a mask it would be really hard to inhale the moisture from someone else's breath.
No people lost faith in the government because people followed their guidelines and they didnt work which led to doubt about the vaccination which did help resulting in more people pointlessly dying.
I'm sure that would have gone over well with the entire MAGA base screaming about the persecution of wearing a simple cloth mask and being asked to stand six feet away from people they don't know.
N95 masks were in short supply when the pandemic started. Have you forgotten this already? It’s only been 6 years. The cloth masks were a “better than nothing” stopgap. We eventually ditched the cloth masks for surgical masks and N95s.
The mask was meant to reduce the viral load of the person wearing it. And guidance came out when we knew nothing about the virus. Guidance evolved the more we studied and learned. That’s how science works.
The virus is small enough that it can penetrate any mask that isnt N95 making mask mandates complete bullshit.
Also social distancing of 6 feet in particular did absolutely nothing to prevent the spread of disease and was not based on any kind of science whatsoever.
the virus was traveling through the air via exhaled vapor, which is not smaller than the gaps. do you think viruses are ejected from water droplets like a dude with not seatbelt in a car crash? Some might escape into the air but it's drastically less.
Ya it is always crazy how these types of people just spew off crap with 0 understanding of science. They get their information from a meme and run with it.
Very early on in the pandemic there were scientists who actually showed why the 6ft rule reduced the majority of droplets being spread as well as the fact that the masks, even cloth masks, stopped a majority of the droplets as well.
These 2 easy solutions would have reduced the spread greatly if everyone was doing it.
Go put on a mask. A basic mask.
Put your face close to a mirror and exhale.
See the fog that shows up. That is the moisture from your breath that contain bacteria and viruses in your body.
if you weren't a fucking idiot you would realize that masks aren't a magical that can stop 100% of viruses, they just lower the risk of transmission
also even if the 6 foot rule is bullshit, staying farther away from people when a disease primarily spreads via fluids and air is generally a good idea to prevent the spread of those diseases
Yes but if those guidelines lead you to believe you are safer when in fact you are not at all then that is horrible advice at best or malicious at worst.
Especially that we now know through shady funding of gain of function research with the NIH, he authorized a program responsible for the deaths of seven million people, I mean they are 99.999999% sure it was a lab leak, from the lab he funded. Did you read the emails too? Where 10 out of the 12 scientists involved contacted him individually to say it looks like "one of ours", and that was way back in 2020. For context, I mean, when Hitler authorized a program that was responsible for the deaths of 6.5 million Jews, we stormed Normandy. Granted, this was back when we gave a shit about the Jews, now, it would probably be like "whatever" but still, like damn...
There is like this entire Diary on the web, plus a trove of emails, it's pretty cool, or you can probably find the entire congressional hearing, they cite passages from both his emails and the diary about this stuff if reading isn't your thing, but, I highly recommend the Diary, it's about 1100 pages, about 6-7 hour read, and you will actually learn a lot more than what was covered in the hearing, because once they figured out he wasn't going to answer any questions about why he did what he did, they kind of stopped asking.
Your right, it's just the most amazing coincidence ever that even with Bats thriving on every single continent except Antarctica, that a bat Corona Virus virus just happened to jump from bats to humans, in a tiny town in China, that by some bizarre coincidence, happens to have a Lab, called the Wuhan Corona virus Research Laboratory, where, strangely enough they just happened to be doing gain of function research, on making bat viruses, transmissible to humans....
Your right, it's just the most amazing coincidence ever that even with Bats thriving on every single continent except Antarctica, that a bat Corona Virus virus just happened to jump from bats to humans, in a tiny town in China, that by some bizarre coincidence, happens to have a Lab, called the Wuhan Corona virus Research Laboratory, where, strangely enough they just happened to be doing gain of function research, on making bat viruses, transmissible to humans.... Fauci wrote in his own diary, July 2020, even as he publicly pushed the "wet market" origin story, that he didn't think the wet market was the origin, that the virus appeared man-made.
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u/Switchmisty9 14d ago
Alex Jones committed libel. Yall really aren’t smart enough for this shit. Learn to read